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Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplish anything socially useful"
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:55:32 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: How it is that everyone in the entire world...except mikey is a liar. No, but mountain bikers and mountain biker wanabes lie more than anyone else I know. You are BY FAR the worst. You still haven't even admitted this big whopper: Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED, Walter Skrzypek (professional LIAR): "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for a laugh. http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg" You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty. ...what a small little world you live in bubble boy! And no. Everything I posted is not a lie. They have all been proven over and over in the threads. You lied many a times or just avoid the topics because if you answer...you lie. You do indeed work for a destructive corporation...unless they fired you nutcase ass too like the sierra club booted you. and that is a fact! No, it isn't. I'm a Life Member. You don't know what you are talking about, about this subject or any other. So how did you get to and from Australia from Berkely? avoidance...quick. avoid the question artful dodger! Did you take a non-powered sailboat...nope. You flew. You do indeed state in a prior thread that you walked to the airport. I did. In Adelaide. do not deny. You liar. You most certainly did claim to write a book of mountain biking. No, I didn't. You can't read English. It is also in a prior thread. Lie. and you don't know me at all so don't claim you do. I have proven any claims that I make. That's a fact. No, it isn't. Regarding the picture...damn right it isn't you. You said it was me, now you admit it was a LIE. That's what you are like: an incorrigible LIAR. You're a flaming fat ass wanna be that picks the smallest cause to jump on the bandwagon...you're a loser. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplishanything socially useful"
Ok...here's a direct quote from mikey. posted on march 26, 2008 to
present you with your first lie. I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts. That's the most rational thing ever written about it. or a better quote from mike from march 31st, 2008, perhaps one of the best quotes.. Mike Vandeman wrote: I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts. I never said I wrote a book, although I did. above you state you didn't write a book...but you state here you did..which is the truth and which is the lie.and mikey claims i lie about his workplace destroying many environmental spots. He said I lied. BUT this was uncovered long ago. No the truth is that the "Environmental Savior" works for pacific-bell telephone company! The ones who cut down forests for towers and telephone poles and service roads for the telephone lines. A "CLEAR" example of what MV wants to stop, bringing machines into the backcountry but yet he works for them and in working for them he helps them in their efforts. A clear and simple case of a .......HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!! Next...you walked to Adelaide airport. In australia...but you are from Berkely? Did australia come to you? how did you walk there? You won't state whether you flew...but you state you walked to the airport? Did you go for a continental breakfast? just sightseeing at the airport? No...you went to catch a flight which pollutes the air...you don't use video conference to save the world. |
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Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplish anything socially useful"
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:00:31 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: Ok...here's a direct quote from mikey. posted on march 26, 2008 to present you with your first lie. I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts. That's the most rational thing ever written about it. Do you see the word "the"? That means that this is an expression. Learn to read English. "I wrote a book on mountain biking impacts" would mean something completely different. or a better quote from mike from march 31st, 2008, perhaps one of the best quotes.. Mike Vandeman wrote: I wrote the book on mountain biking impacts. I never said I wrote a book, although I did. above you state you didn't write a book...but you state here you did..which is the truth and which is the lie. There is no lie. The book I wrote was about the common cold. Idiot. and mikey claims i lie about his workplace destroying many environmental spots. He said I lied. BUT this was uncovered long ago. No the truth is that the "Environmental Savior" works for pacific-bell telephone company! The ones who cut down forests for towers and telephone poles and service roads for the telephone lines. A "CLEAR" example of what MV wants to stop, bringing machines into the backcountry but yet he works for them and in working for them he helps them in their efforts. A clear and simple case of a .......HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!! That's a pack of lies. Next...you walked to Adelaide airport. Yes, I did. In australia...but you are from Berkely? Did australia come to you? how did you walk there? You won't state whether you flew...but you state you walked to the airport? Yes. What's your point? I should drive? -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplishanything socially useful"
You speak nothing but half-truths to avoid direct condemnation. You
are a hypocrite. I suppose the book you wrote on the common cold is all "literature Reviews". other ppls work that you quote for entire pages. The info about Pac Bell is not lies. It is fact. they destroy enormous amounts of wilderness area as in the name of technology. and you support this? you must because your entire sites are built on their platform. So you support sierra club. sierra voted you out and you may be a lifetime member but you are still not welcome into their strange circle. Sierra Club gives those lovely little stuffed party gifts or backpacks for joining...all of which are made in polluting third world countries...how can a group like that...a group you are lifetime member claim to be supporting the environment while dumping money into those wasteful gifts? because they like you are hypocrites. And the point of you walking to the airport is...you went their to catch a flight. But you can't admit to flying? why did you go to the airport? |
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Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplish anything socially useful"
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:29:47 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: I suppose the book you wrote on the common cold is all "literature Reviews". other ppls work that you quote for entire pages. No, it's 100% original. How cynical and ignorant you are. The info about Pac Bell is not lies. It is fact. BS. Pac Bell doesn't exist, Rip Van Winkle. Hasn't existed for year. You are nothing but a string of LIES, covering colossal IGNORANCE. they destroy enormous amounts of wilderness area LIAR. as in the name of technology. and you support this? you must because your entire sites are built on their platform. So you support sierra club. sierra voted you out and you may be a lifetime member but you are still not welcome into their strange circle. LIAR. You obviously know NOTHING. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Extreme Environmentalism "Such activities do not accomplishanything socially useful"
On 17 Feb, 02:03, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:29:47 -0800 (PST), " wrote: *I suppose the book you wrote on the common cold is all "literature Reviews". other ppls work that you quote for entire pages. No, it's 100% original. How cynical and ignorant you are. The info about Pac Bell is not lies. It is fact. BS. Pac Bell doesn't exist, Rip Van Winkle. Hasn't existed for year. You are nothing but a string of LIES, covering colossal IGNORANCE. *they destroy enormous amounts of wilderness area LIAR. *as in the name of technology. and you support this? you must because your entire sites are built on their platform. So you support sierra club. sierra voted you out and you may be a lifetime member but you are still not welcome into their strange circle. LIAR. You obviously know NOTHING. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande no...you have proven yourself with your own misguidance. Everything you say. you contradict yourself. Still wondering why you avoid the last question. Why go to the airport? DID YOU FLY? |
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Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything sociallyuseful"
On Feb 15, 1:03 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
BS. My case has been presented here & on my website. Not really. There are so few citations, it's a joke to anyone who has ever read peer reviewed journals. I never said that, LIAR. Ah, you've fallen pray to your own logic trap, because it is you who are lying. I did not tell you that you said. I said, and I quote: "Instead, you suggest that anyone who rides a bike off road and gets injured, or rides a mountain bike who get injured is getting what they deserve with no consideration for the circumstances apart from if they were off road, or riding a mountain bike." There are numerous threads which you have started, or responded to with your well worn "Evolution in action!" riff regarding someone's death or injury while riding a bike off road, while riding an off road bike, or even being a noted off road rider. Your mocking of other people’s injury or death is disgusting, rude, and tasteless to say the least. BS. I just want to educate. You are the one fighting to preserve your considerable ignorance. I disagree. Your assertion is that I am willingly or willfully remaining ignorant about the environmental hazards of off road riding. Instead, I am aware of them, and they are no more hazardous than hiking. Try taking this up with golfers, who have a much bigger and measurable impact on the ecology of land near golf courses. You have never presented a single fact to support mountain biking. Which is not really an issue since you will probably just call the author a liar, not respond to the cited source, or ignore the whole thing. I've presented hundreds of facts that condemn mountain biking for harming people & the environment. I would not call them facts at all. You do not cite your sources, or you cite yourself as a source which is a lot like a snake eating it's tail. Chris |
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Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything socially useful"
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:30:35 -0800 (PST), Chris
wrote: On Feb 15, 1:03 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: BS. My case has been presented here & on my website. Not really. There are so few citations, it's a joke to anyone who has ever read peer reviewed journals. I never said that, LIAR. Ah, you've fallen pray to your own logic trap, because it is you who are lying. I did not tell you that you said. I said, and I quote: "Instead, you suggest that anyone who rides a bike off road and gets injured, or rides a mountain bike who get injured is getting what they deserve with no consideration for the circumstances apart from if they were off road, or riding a mountain bike." LIAR. Those are YOUR words, not mine. There are numerous threads which you have started, or responded to with your well worn "Evolution in action!" riff regarding someone's death or injury while riding a bike off road, while riding an off road bike, or even being a noted off road rider. Your mocking of other people’s injury or death is disgusting, rude, and tasteless to say the least. BS. I just want to educate. You are the one fighting to preserve your considerable ignorance. I disagree. Your assertion is that I am willingly or willfully remaining ignorant about the environmental hazards of off road riding. Instead, I am aware of them, and they are no more hazardous than hiking. Try taking this up with golfers, who have a much bigger and measurable impact on the ecology of land near golf courses. You have never presented a single fact to support mountain biking. Which is not really an issue since you will probably just call the author a liar, not respond to the cited source, or ignore the whole thing. I've presented hundreds of facts that condemn mountain biking for harming people & the environment. I would not call them facts at all. You do not cite your sources, or you cite yourself as a source which is a lot like a snake eating it's tail. Chris -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything sociallyuseful"
I have a Ph.D. in science. You have NOTHING. One doesn't need a degree
in a subject to be an expert in it, but you have NEITHER. I do have a Ph.D. in real science, from a real university, and I can assert that you are a mentally unstable person. I suggest you seek therapy. |
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Mountain Biking: "Such sports do not accomplish anything sociallyuseful"
On Feb 21, 11:48*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:30:35 -0800 (PST), Chris Ah, you've fallen pray to your own logic trap, because it is you who are lying. I did not tell you that you said. I said, and I quote: "Instead, you suggest that anyone who rides a bike off road and gets injured, or rides a mountain bike who get injured is getting what they deserve with no consideration for the circumstances apart from if they were off road, or riding a mountain bike." LIAR. Those are YOUR words, not mine. I know they are my words, because I quoted myself, and even said that I was doing so. My assertion is still the same, and you are still avoiding the point. How typical. Chris |
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