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Tour de France - is it unAmerican?
Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:05:47 -0400, , "Eric
S. Sande" wrote: It's French. Sportsmanship is universal. It's just hard to see in American contact sports, the action is too fast. Motor racing, while fast, is ideally a non-contact sport. -- zk |
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Zoot Katz wrote:
Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:05:47 -0400, , "Eric S. Sande" wrote: It's French. Sportsmanship is universal. It's just hard to see in American contact sports, the action is too fast. Motor racing, while fast, is ideally a non-contact sport. NASCAR would die if the fans did not see plenty of "contact" !! -- Regards, Joe |
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Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:38:10 -0500,
, Kevan Smith /\/\ wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:37:31 GMT, "Michael" from wrote: He does have a point. I can't think of another American sport where you help your opponent when he or she is down so it will be a fair competition. Ultimate. Not that many people have heard of it, but there ya go. "There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games." — Hemingway -- zk |
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Zoot Katz wrote:
Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:05:47 -0400, , "Eric S. Sande" wrote: It's French. Sportsmanship is universal. It's just hard to see in American contact sports, the action is too fast. Motor racing, while fast, is ideally a non-contact sport. Did you hear what Robin Williams said on OLN today about the crashes inthe tour? Somehting like "It's NASCAR without the explosions!" |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... Excerpts from King Kaufman's column in Salon - I think the Tour de France leaves Americans cold because it is almost perfectly antithetical to the American character. This guy is totally wrong. Athletes in American sports used to exhibit the same spirit of fair play and sportsmanship. There was a time when a linebacker helped the QB up after a sack. Now the linebacker celebrates while the QB is down. Basketball players used to score without the "in your face" actions of today's players. I find the TdF to be uplifting, a reminder of the beauty of sport. It's a shame that American sports have been reduced to the unpleasant spectacle the author admires. |
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Slider2699 wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ... Excerpts from King Kaufman's column in Salon - I think the Tour de France leaves Americans cold because it is almost perfectly antithetical to the American character. This guy is totally wrong. Athletes in American sports used to exhibit the same spirit of fair play and sportsmanship. There was a time when a linebacker helped the QB up after a sack. Now the linebacker celebrates while the QB is down. Basketball players used to score without the "in your face" actions of today's players. I find the TdF to be uplifting, a reminder of the beauty of sport. It's a shame that American sports have been reduced to the unpleasant spectacle the author admires. Helping your opponent up after a sack is one thing and many still do it. The tight end slowing down when his pursuer trips and falls will never happen. There's a big difference. -- Robert Hampton Genesis POS http://www.genesispos.com (866) 942-8813 Voice (325) 942-8872 Fax |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:51:39 +0000, Steve wrote:
I don't think I'm a bad guy. I think I'm in the absolute dead-center mainstream of American thought here. This is the national character speaking. Bull****. Don't try to speak for me. *I think that down in our bones, most of us can't fathom this business of gentlemanliness and sportsmanship. That would be your problem. It just doesn't speak to us. And you do not speak for us. -- David L. Johnson __o | "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass. _`\(,_ | What are you on?" --Lance Armstrong (_)/ (_) | |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:27:32 +0000, Pat wrote:
Henry, it's just his opinion: he is only saying how HE personally would react. No, he's not. He is saying that his kick-'em-in-the-nuts-when-they're-down attitude is "American", which I find repugnant. -- David L. Johnson __o | Deserves death! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve _`\(,_ | death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to (_)/ (_) | them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. -- J. R. R. Tolkein |
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Steve wrote:
And when my closest rival hits the deck and has to spend a minute getting untangled from that spectator who got in his way, well, sorry pal, but I'm turning on the jets. You wouldn't last long in the peloton before you were eating chip and seal, mister Salon Writer Guy. The pack has its own way of dealing with those who break the code. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/ |
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I'd consider moving, if I were you. I really despise Americans who fail to
appreciate what they have. Go live under a dictatorial regime or a third world economy. I have. It will teach you a renewed appreciation for what you have. It is not only a great country we have here but the absolute best. Love it or leave it or change it but don't complain about it. Fred "Preston Crawford" wrote in message newsan.2003.07.27.13.03.01.47522@REMOVESPAMBLOCK prestoncrawford.com... On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:51:39 +0000, Steve wrote: And if you see his wallet while he's down there, take it. Sportsmanship means helping him up after you've cleaned his clock. Before then, it can be summed up in these three words: Don't cheat blatantly. This is why I hate the culture of this country I live in. If it's not this it's yell at the cyclist because he's in your way and you're more important. Yell at the cashier because they're not fast enough and you're in a hurry. Step on anyone you can to get ahead. Great country we have here. Preston |
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