SOMETIMES RIDING BIKES IS BAD FOR YOUR YOU

On Nov 12, 7:29 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:

Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip. It is actually
rather pathetic, particularly from someone that hasn't experienced or
even seen first hand the violence and evil you claim is the natural
state of the human race.

And how would you know what I have and have not seen?


Enlighten me. How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you
seen? A person cutting in line in front of you at Starbucks doesn't
count unless someone hits the floor. Neither does watching television
or attending an NFL or NHL game.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

On Nov 12, 7:30 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 11, 11:02 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Over-Optimist Bob Hunt wrote:

You're confusing your *experienced* reality with Mr. Sherman's
*global* reality. He thinks globally you know. ("Thinking globally" is
actually code for "following a political idealogy- left or right, it
makes no difference- no matter how disconnected the conclusions are to
experience".)
Nonsense. People delude themselves, since most prefer not to face
conditions as they actually are. Seeing and understanding reality is
truly a curse.

Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip....

It is not intended to be hip. You have much to learn if that is your
thought process.



Whether it is intended to be hip or not, the "world weary cynic" act
remains pathetic so why not give it a rest? I do agree with you though
that I have a lot to learn. I think we *all* could use more knowledge.
Judging by your patronizing tone, I doubt that's what you meant
though.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

On Nov 10, 5:11 pm, bluezfolk wrote:
On Nov 10, 2:58 pm, wrote:

Here are some pictures of the result of a small fall i had last weekhttp://picasaweb.google.com/cyclingthings/Bikes
going to fast on a wet road and trying to avoid a car going up hill.
do not let this discourage you, riding bikes is the best thing in the
world
regards
carloswww.bikingthings.com
Get Faster, Enjoy Cycling, Get Fit, Live Better.

OUCH!!!! I hope nothings broken

nope, just the brushes. i have to tell you all, in a way i like pain,
i kept riding for 30 miles after the fall and I sucked bad that day.
it was a climb of about 3000 feet or more in less than 15 miles and i
had cramps all over my legs. it was just one of those days that
everything hurts, but it is what i always say: when it really hurts
and you suck! is the time when you bocome a better rider
carlos
www.bikingthings.com
Get Faster, Enjoy Cycling, Get Fit, Live Better.

Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:29 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip. It is actually
rather pathetic, particularly from someone that hasn't experienced or
even seen first hand the violence and evil you claim is the natural
state of the human race.
And how would you know what I have and have not seen?


Enlighten me. How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you
seen? A person cutting in line in front of you at Starbucks doesn't
count unless someone hits the floor. Neither does watching television
or attending an NFL or NHL game.

The point is Bob Hunt made an assumption with no evidence. Correct?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.

Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:30 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 11, 11:02 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Over-Optimist Bob Hunt wrote:
You're confusing your *experienced* reality with Mr. Sherman's
*global* reality. He thinks globally you know. ("Thinking globally" is
actually code for "following a political idealogy- left or right, it
makes no difference- no matter how disconnected the conclusions are to
experience".)
Nonsense. People delude themselves, since most prefer not to face
conditions as they actually are. Seeing and understanding reality is
truly a curse.
Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip....
It is not intended to be hip. You have much to learn if that is your
thought process.

Whether it is intended to be hip or not, the "world weary cynic" act
remains pathetic so why not give it a rest?

Yo Bob, it is NOT an act.

I do agree with you though
that I have a lot to learn. I think we *all* could use more knowledge.
Judging by your patronizing tone, I doubt that's what you meant
though.

No offense Mr. Hunt, but you do seem rather middle class, middle
American, to judge from your posts.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.

On Nov 13, 7:54 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:29 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip. It is actually
rather pathetic, particularly from someone that hasn't experienced or
even seen first hand the violence and evil you claim is the natural
state of the human race.
And how would you know what I have and have not seen?

Enlighten me. How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you
seen? A person cutting in line in front of you at Starbucks doesn't
count unless someone hits the floor. Neither does watching television
or attending an NFL or NHL game.

The point is Bob Hunt made an assumption with no evidence. Correct?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.

That may be your point but it doesn't answer the question, does it?
You seem to be easily sidetracked so I'll repeat it once more before
letting the matter drop entirely. How many incidents of intentional
violence *have* you seen? Surely if things are as bad as you say it
shouldn't be that hard for you to think of a few examples. I mean, you
have written in this thread, "Mostly there is violence - physical,
economic and emotional. Hominids have a long way to go to become a
moral species." and "Well, contemporary Western society is lacking in
pretty much everything but material wealth." Or are you saying that
things are just fine where you are but they are horrible everywhere
else?

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 13, 7:54 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:29 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip. It is actually
rather pathetic, particularly from someone that hasn't experienced or
even seen first hand the violence and evil you claim is the natural
state of the human race.
And how would you know what I have and have not seen?
Enlighten me. How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you
seen? A person cutting in line in front of you at Starbucks doesn't
count unless someone hits the floor. Neither does watching television
or attending an NFL or NHL game.
The point is Bob Hunt made an assumption with no evidence. Correct?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.

That may be your point but it doesn't answer the question, does it?
You seem to be easily sidetracked so I'll repeat it once more before
letting the matter drop entirely.

How about answering my question. Did you make an assumption, or do you
have actual knowledge?

How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you seen?

Why not answer my question?

Surely if things are as bad as you say it
shouldn't be that hard for you to think of a few examples. I mean, you
have written in this thread, "Mostly there is violence - physical,
economic and emotional.

Most people do treat each other badly. However, they rationalize their
behavior to the point they can no longer see reality.

Hominids have a long way to go to become a
moral species." and "Well, contemporary Western society is lacking in
pretty much everything but material wealth." Or are you saying that
things are just fine where you are but they are horrible everywhere
else?

Neither.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.

On Nov 13, 9:34 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 13, 7:54 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:29 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip. It is actually
rather pathetic, particularly from someone that hasn't experienced or
even seen first hand the violence and evil you claim is the natural
state of the human race.
And how would you know what I have and have not seen?
Enlighten me. How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you
seen? A person cutting in line in front of you at Starbucks doesn't
count unless someone hits the floor. Neither does watching television
or attending an NFL or NHL game.
The point is Bob Hunt made an assumption with no evidence. Correct?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.

That may be your point but it doesn't answer the question, does it?
You seem to be easily sidetracked so I'll repeat it once more before
letting the matter drop entirely.

How about answering my question. Did you make an assumption, or do you
have actual knowledge?

How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you seen?

Why not answer my question?

Surely if things are as bad as you say it
shouldn't be that hard for you to think of a few examples. I mean, you
have written in this thread, "Mostly there is violence - physical,
economic and emotional.

Most people do treat each other badly. However, they rationalize their
behavior to the point they can no longer see reality.

Hominids have a long way to go to become a
moral species." and "Well, contemporary Western society is lacking in
pretty much everything but material wealth." Or are you saying that
things are just fine where you are but they are horrible everywhere
else?

Neither.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.- Hide quoted text -

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Since you can't or won't answer the question I put to you first I
will, as I said earlier, let the matter drop entirely. Discussion with
someone that refuses to follow the simple rule of "first asked, first
answered" is simply not worth my time. You may now claim to have "won"
the argument.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 13, 9:34 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 13, 7:54 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Bob Hunt wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:29 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Give it a rest. Your "world weary cynic" act isn't hip. It is actually
rather pathetic, particularly from someone that hasn't experienced or
even seen first hand the violence and evil you claim is the natural
state of the human race.
And how would you know what I have and have not seen?
Enlighten me. How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you
seen? A person cutting in line in front of you at Starbucks doesn't
count unless someone hits the floor. Neither does watching television
or attending an NFL or NHL game.
The point is Bob Hunt made an assumption with no evidence. Correct?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.
That may be your point but it doesn't answer the question, does it?
You seem to be easily sidetracked so I'll repeat it once more before
letting the matter drop entirely.
How about answering my question. Did you make an assumption, or do you
have actual knowledge?

How many incidents of intentional violence *have* you seen?
Why not answer my question?

Surely if things are as bad as you say it
shouldn't be that hard for you to think of a few examples. I mean, you
have written in this thread, "Mostly there is violence - physical,
economic and emotional.
Most people do treat each other badly. However, they rationalize their
behavior to the point they can no longer see reality.

Hominids have a long way to go to become a
moral species." and "Well, contemporary Western society is lacking in
pretty much everything but material wealth." Or are you saying that
things are just fine where you are but they are horrible everywhere
else?
Neither.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Since you can't or won't answer the question I put to you first I
will, as I said earlier, let the matter drop entirely. Discussion with
someone that refuses to follow the simple rule of "first asked, first
answered" is simply not worth my time. You may now claim to have "won"
the argument.

No, Bob Hunt started with an assumption, not a question. I put the
question to Bob Hunt first, as reading the text above will reveal. By
Bob Hunt's rule of "first asked, first answered", he needs to state how
he knows what I have seen and not seen? Do he have special psychic
powers or spies in his employ?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.

On Nov 13, 10:16 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:

No, Bob Hunt started with an assumption, not a question. I put the
question to Bob Hunt first, as reading the text above will reveal. By
Bob Hunt's rule of "first asked, first answered", he needs to state how
he knows what I have seen and not seen? Do he have special psychic
powers or spies in his employ?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What I wrote wasn't so much an assumption as an accusation but I'll
answer your question.
When people post to a thread here about the dangers of being "left
hooked", they almost invariably relate a personal experience that
either happened to them or that they witnessed. The same is true for
"wrong way rider" threads, threads about various equipment issues,
helmet threads, etcetera. There's a pattern there you see. Your
contributions here follow that pattern. When you write about the
advantages of bents versus uprights you always mention your own bent
experience for example. Yet when you launch one of your. "the Western
world is filled with violent and evil people" diatribes, the only
examples of that evil and violence you can cite aren't really examples
of evil but merely references to headlines and the inferences you draw
from them. Based on the striking lack of any personal examples, I
concluded that you have no such examples to offer.
Now that I have answered your question, how about answering mine? In
case you've forgotten my question was, "How many incidents of
intentional violence *have* you seen?" As a reminder, someone cutting
in line in front of you at Starbucks doesn't count unless someone hits
the floor. Neither does watching television or attending an NFL or NHL
game.

Regards,
Bob Hunt