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Old September 25th 04, 04:43 PM
Top Dog
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I disagree it's only worth about $150. I think it would be more valiable to
somebody that wants a good, well made steel frameset from Italia.


Peter, you'd obviously know about that. Same with widening the rear
stays - I've heard spotty reviews on this, but then they didn't take it
to someone of your ability, I'm sure.
I was making more of a judgement based on a fall eBay price. (I also
didn't realize it had Record!) If you're trying to sell something quick,
to your average rider, it's hard to get much. If you're willing to be
patient and try to find a collector or someone who really appreciates an
older frame's quality, this can be done, but it can take a long time.
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Old September 25th 04, 09:29 PM
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Peter writes:

Perfect fixie frameset. Screw on a track cog, remove the big ring, attach

the
small with track chainring bolts, take off the ders, rear brake-go ride!!!


I'm with you Peter. Make it into a fixxie.

I can't let my old friends go. My custom Condor, built by Monty Young in
1981, and retired about 4 years ago, is hanging on my home office wall
(frame only).

I want to build up a fixxie too, but can't bear to make the Condor into a
fixxie. Don't know why, maybe because the 10 year old Cyclart paint job is
still flawless and I just love having the old friend hanging near me on the
wall.

So I cruise ebay looking for 52cm frames

Damn, just found one. Perfect, an early '80s Bob Jackson with *exactly* my
measurements.

Just what I need...*another* bike.

Lee


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Old September 28th 04, 08:01 AM
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Larry Coon writes:

I just bought a new Trek, and now I'm trying to decide what to do
with my old Somec. It's too nice a bike to just leave unridden, and
if it's still worth a lot, I think I'd prefer to sell it. Problem
is, I have no idea what a bike from 1990 might be worth today. But
if it really isn't worth much, then I -will- keep it as an emergency
bike.


1990 is not really in the vintage bike range (yet). The web site you
put up is only a so-so job of marketing the bike. Here is an
absolutely fantastic job of marketing a bicycle with a crashed front
end / replacement fork :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7103959626

If you clean up the bike a lot and write some ad copy like this, then
$500 is possible, at the right time of year. otherwise, it will
probably sell in the $250 - $350 range on ebay, given the description
i've seen so far.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA
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Old September 28th 04, 06:34 PM
Larry Coon
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Top Dog wrote:

You may well get more, since some of your parts could be worth a bit to
a collector. Recond (of any era) maintains a solid value. Too bad you
didn't like the Deltas - those are worth their weight in gold today!


Heh, I'd rather have better brakes that are worth
less than the other way around... :-)

I
based my estimate on "standard" components. If you are patient, you may
do better, but I still don't think it will be close to $400 unless
someone REALLY wants something there - it would be for collector's
value. I've got some friends trying to sell 2-3 yr old bikes (of lesser
quality, no doubt, but with 9s components, carbon forks, etc) for $400
and not getting it.


Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I'm also not
averse to parting it out, since I parted it together
in the first place. Seems like that'd get me more,
no?

If this had the wider rear stay, it would have made a world of
difference.
Theoretically you can have someone widen it for you since it's a steel
bike. I don't know how reliable this process is - someone else can
likely say better than myself.


Well as others have said, it's steel, and cold-setting
isn't that much of a problem, especially for just 2mm
per stay. I don't know if I should do it myself or sell
it as is, with a notation that the buyer could have it
cold set to 130mm if he desires. Probably the notation,
since a buyer might want to keep it vintage.

Thanks again.


Larry Coon
University of California
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Old September 28th 04, 06:36 PM
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PBridge130 wrote:

Hmmmn.... My observation is that the frame alone would go for ~125, maybe 150.
Particularly with HS. Wheels, maybe 60-70. Crank? Might be of interest to a
period guy. Brifters... definitely of interest, might command a surprising
amount. Heck, DA 7-sp FW's go for $25.

Of course, all of that assumes a willingness to piece the bike, and to deal
with packaging and shipping multiple items, not to mention the need to
photograph and present the items well.


Thanks for the info. Parting it out isn't a problem,
even though I'm sure it'd take longer to get it all
sold that way.

The photos I posted were just quickies to get some
input, and not something that was designed to present
it for sale.


Larry Coon
University of California
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Old September 28th 04, 06:38 PM
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:

But as a steel frameset, very easy to cold set it to 130mm, and then use
anything from 7s to 10s.

I disagree it's only worth about $150. I think it would be more valiable to
somebody that wants a good, well made steel frameset from Italia.


Thanks, Peter. As I said in another post, it'd probably be
a better idea to note that the seller could easily cold set
it, rather than do it myself, agreed?

What value would you put on the frameset?


Larry Coon
University of California
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Old September 28th 04, 06:40 PM
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Alex Rodriguez wrote:

Nice bike. I would guess value is around $500 assuming the drivetrain is
not worn.


Thanks, Alex. And thanks to everybody else who replied.

Also, the seatpost looks like a Chorus, not record.


Yeah, come to think of it, I think you're right. It's
been a while...

Also I listed the freewheel gears wrong. It's a 12-18,
not a 13-19.


Larry Coon
University of California

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Old September 28th 04, 06:48 PM
Larry Coon
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Donald Gillies wrote:

1990 is not really in the vintage bike range (yet). The web site you
put up is only a so-so job of marketing the bike.


Thanks for the input. Actutally, the page I put up wasn't
intended to market the bike at all. I just snapped a couple
quick pics and posted them so I can get input from the
people here. I hadn't (and still haven't) even decided if
I want to sell it yet.

Here is an
absolutely fantastic job of marketing a bicycle with a crashed front
end / replacement fork :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7103959626

If you clean up the bike a lot and write some ad copy like this, then
$500 is possible, at the right time of year. otherwise, it will
probably sell in the $250 - $350 range on ebay, given the description
i've seen so far.


Thanks again.


Larry Coon
University of California
 




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