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On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 9:46:08 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 10:11:44 +0700, John B wrote: Even Muslims hate bicycles: Everybody hates bicycles, it is one of the few things that unites the world. Oh, sure, people *say* they like bikes... until said bike is being ridden on a road and holds them up for 3.1 seconds. Making light of a tragedy I should not be taken as. That's not the intent. It was a horrific incident. At this point we don't really know if he is a terrorist or a nut, but that doesn't make the slightest different to the victims and their families. Deep condolences to the loved ones of the victims and best wishes for the best possible recovery for the injured. There are too many ways in the world to get hurt or killed without people doing it deliberately. Tim, the group here doesn't understand sarcasm. I've had to talk to you about that before. |
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1 April, 1971
LINKS ARE FROM an email account so pasting into browser maybe necessary https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...I4MDA3NjgwOAS2 https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...I4MDA3NjgwOAS2 https://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/d...I4MDA3NjgwOAS2 |
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Reading al-Qtub (much like George Lincoln Rockwell or Mao or Karl Marx) makes one apprehensive of the readers who believe this crap. Scary stuff only in that not everyone laughs out loud while reading it. ))))))))))))))) this is my mommy this is my kitty cat this is godhead that is a Jew Allah is... man writes like a 3rd grade imbecile cooking a goat at the tail rear of a jet transport https://theauthenticbase.wordpress.c...m-sayyid-qutb/ |
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Per John B.:
The Bangkok Post has it that "The attacker was taken into custody after he was shot in the stomach by a New York City policeman, and neutralised". It's encouraging that the NY cops, at least, have caught on the idea of taking these guys alive so they can be "Debriefed" instead of blowing them to smithereens on the spot. I guess it's all money in the pocket for the media people, but if I had my druthers, the story would be "Another nutcase kills a bunch of people" and leave it at that until some group/plot emerges. -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 9:35:52 PM UTC, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
my druthers, the story would be "Another nutcase kills a bunch of people" and leave it at that until some group/plot emerges. Nonsense. The killer's name is Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov, which makes him at least a second-generation Muslim. He shouted "Allahu Akbar" as he committed his crimes, which makes him a jihadist. If that isn't enough evidence to call him a Muslim and take a 95% guess at the influences on him, what will be enough for the limp apologists of Islamic jihad? -- AJ |
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 09:31:21 -0400, Duane
wrote: On 01/11/2017 12:30 AM, Joy Beeson wrote: Oddly, I first read about this incident in the London Telegraph -- rather high on the page. Exactly what the murderer thought he was doing isn't particularly important. On one hand I agree, it's not particularly important what he thought he was doing. But on the other hand, this attack isn't exactly an isolated incident. On the world stage, perhaps not as there have been similar high profile mass murders using motor vehicles. It's isolated in the US in terms of its use as a terrorist tool. But there have been several incidents of road-ragers and drunk drivers plowing into packs of bicyclists in the past decade. Not to mention the more sporadic drunk/angry/distracted driver striking cyclists for the past 100 years. At this point it is still not clear to me whether this is a terrorist or a person who is mentally ill. He seems to have been inspired by ISIS' instructions for how to kill a lot of people using a motor vehicle, pretty much to the letter (if you don't already know, ISIS published an online how-to manual with pretty much a checklist)- except that his backup weapons were a BB gun and a paintball gun. Well, perhaps the third possible category is "idiot terrorist." I would not be surprised if the driver turned out to be mentally ill prior to the incident. But again none of that actually matters to the victims and their loved ones. |
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:35:44 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per John B.: The Bangkok Post has it that "The attacker was taken into custody after he was shot in the stomach by a New York City policeman, and neutralised". It's encouraging that the NY cops, at least, have caught on the idea of taking these guys alive so they can be "Debriefed" instead of blowing them to smithereens on the spot. I guess it's all money in the pocket for the media people, but if I had my druthers, the story would be "Another nutcase kills a bunch of people" and leave it at that until some group/plot emerges. Well, we don't know yet if he is a nutcase or what. No doubt more information will appear; who knows if he will provide anything useful himself. He did at least leave some written notes in the truck (or at least someone did, he seems like the most likely candidate) indicating at least inspiration by ISIS. Perhaps we could at least get the president to stop adding so much fuel to the fire. Yeah, right, like that's gonna happen. He has to keep the fires built high to distract from other things (like fleecing the middle class to pay for the rich folks' tax cuts). |
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the stan is not a 'nut' https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/n...ck-attack.html Where Mr. Saipov exited the bike path at Chambers Street is another notoriously risky intersection. In June 2016, a cyclist, Olga Cook, was killed there when an allegedly intoxicated driver made a right turn from the West Side Highway, crossing the greenway. At least 17 other cyclists or pedestrians had been injured there in the preceding five years. Daniel Flanzig, a personal injury lawyer who has handled multiple cases on behalf of bicyclists killed or injured on the bike path, including Ms. Cook’s case, said there was a clear need to make the path safer. “Everyone’s first reaction yesterday was to have bollards put onto the bike path,” he said. “It makes sense.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/n...pgtype=article |
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Tim McNamara wrote:
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 09:31:21 -0400, Duane wrote: On 01/11/2017 12:30 AM, Joy Beeson wrote: Oddly, I first read about this incident in the London Telegraph -- rather high on the page. Exactly what the murderer thought he was doing isn't particularly important. On one hand I agree, it's not particularly important what he thought he was doing. But on the other hand, this attack isn't exactly an isolated incident. On the world stage, perhaps not as there have been similar high profile mass murders using motor vehicles. It's isolated in the US in terms of its use as a terrorist tool. But there have been several incidents of road-ragers and drunk drivers plowing into packs of bicyclists in the past decade. Not to mention the more sporadic drunk/angry/distracted driver striking cyclists for the past 100 years. At this point it is still not clear to me whether this is a terrorist or a person who is mentally ill. He seems to have been inspired by ISIS' instructions for how to kill a lot of people using a motor vehicle, pretty much to the letter (if you don't already know, ISIS published an online how-to manual with pretty much a checklist)- except that his backup weapons were a BB gun and a paintball gun. Well, perhaps the third possible category is "idiot terrorist." I would not be surprised if the driver turned out to be mentally ill prior to the incident. But again none of that actually matters to the victims and their loved ones. To me the line between terrorist and mentally ill isn’t very clear. Religious fundamentalism and insane seem to go hand in hand. Something about murdering unarmed innocents in order to get into heaven with the virgins... -- duane |
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