Recall cars not fixed!

Hmm! More than 1 million cars with the fault eh? That's a lot of
dangerous cars being driven around on a daily basis.

"It's the groundhog day from hell for Toyota because US owners are now
complaining of unintended acceleration in cars that have been recalled
and remedied.

Toyota received reports of the problem from the US National Highway
Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and has investigated.

A statement from the manufacturer said: 'Although these reports
involve a tiny fraction of the more than one million vehicles dealers
have repaired to date, Toyota takes them very seriously.'

Toyota's investigations are now being evaluated by NHTSA before the
next step is taken, but the company said that it found no evidence of
a failure of the throttle control system, brake override feature or in
the actual work carried out during the massive recall campaign.

Toyota also says that 'many' of the complaints to NHTSA could not be
verified or followed up because of a lack of owner information.

The manufacturer said it would be inappropriate to provide more
specific information about its investigations since they are now being
evaluated by NHTSA, but asked owners with any concerns to get in touch
directly with the company."

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/toyo...ntinues/247951

Problem is though, judging by these newsgroups, owners have no
concerns at all and are quite happy to regard the faults as
inconsequential.

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On 7 Mar, 07:30, Doug wrote:
Hmm! More than 1 million cars with the fault eh? That's a lot of
dangerous cars being driven around on a daily basis.

"It's the groundhog day from hell for Toyota because US owners are now
complaining of unintended acceleration in cars that have been recalled
and remedied.

Toyota received reports of the problem from the US National Highway
Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and has investigated.

A statement from the manufacturer said: 'Although these reports
involve a tiny fraction of the more than one million vehicles dealers
have repaired to date, Toyota takes them very seriously.'

Toyota's investigations are now being evaluated by NHTSA before the
next step is taken, but the company said that it found no evidence of
a failure of the throttle control system, brake override feature or in
the actual work carried out during the massive recall campaign.

Toyota also says that 'many' of the complaints to NHTSA could not be
verified or followed up because of a lack of owner information.

The manufacturer said it would be inappropriate to provide more
specific information about its investigations since they are now being
evaluated by NHTSA, but asked owners with any concerns to get in touch
directly with the company."

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/toyo...ntinues/247951

Problem is though, judging by these newsgroups, owners have no
concerns at all and are quite happy to regard the faults as
inconsequential.

--
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A driving licence is a licence to kill.

Ooops! Seems 1 million was an underestimate.

"...The decision, which could be announced as early as this week,
comes after recall of more than 8m other Toyota vehicles since
November to fix faulty accelerators and floor mats..."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ffbe3e10-1...44feabdc0.html

But which some now believe is actually due to faulty software.

Doug.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:30:17 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

Hmm! More than 1 million cars with the fault eh? That's a lot of
dangerous cars being driven around on a daily basis.

There are a great many more dangerous cars than that... Indeed, I find
it hard to think of any safe car. I thought that you knew better that
that, Doug.

On 07/03/2010 07:30, Doug wrote:


"It's the groundhog day from hell for Toyota because US owners are now
complaining of unintended acceleration in cars that have been recalled
and remedied.


Hmmm. US owners have a history of inventing unintended accerattion when
they do something stupid like catch the accelerator when they were
supposed to the hitting the brakes. Then , when the fault isn't
reproduceable, they fake it.

http://bit.ly/99x4Gd

On 7 Mar, 08:23, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:30:17 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

Hmm! More than 1 million cars with the fault eh? That's a lot of
dangerous cars being driven around on a daily basis.

There are a great many more dangerous cars than that... Indeed, I find
it hard to think of any safe car. I thought that you knew better that
that, Doug.

Well I am leaning over backwards to be fair, Tom.

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Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

On 7 Mar, 08:23, Tom Crispin
There are a great many more dangerous cars than that... Indeed, I find
it hard to think of any safe car. I thought that you knew better that
that, Doug.

Well I am leaning over backwards to be fair, Tom.

Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah

On 7 Mar, 09:14, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 07/03/2010 07:30, Doug wrote:



"It's the groundhog day from hell for Toyota because US owners are now
complaining of unintended acceleration in cars that have been recalled
and remedied.

Hmmm. US owners have a history of inventing unintended accerattion when
they do something stupid like catch the accelerator when they were
supposed to the hitting the brakes. Then , when the fault isn't
reproduceable, they fake it.

http://bit.ly/99x4Gd

Don't forget the litigation culture that exists in America. If they
have an accident entirely though their own fault or stupidity, they
then try to sue the manufacturer, plus any third parties and their
dogs, for negligence. Unfortunately this practice is now spreading to
the UK.

Derek C

delboy gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Don't forget the litigation culture that exists in America. If they have
an accident entirely though their own fault or stupidity, they then try
to sue the manufacturer, plus any third parties and their dogs, for
negligence.

Indeed. There's the tale of the person who set the cruise control on
their big motorhome, then went into the back to make a sandwich - of
course, it left the road at speed. They sued the manufacturer, because
the handbook didn't say they shouldn't.

Almost certainly apocryphal, of course, but there's usually a grain of
truth behind there somewhere...

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
delboy gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Don't forget the litigation culture that exists in America. If they have
an accident entirely though their own fault or stupidity, they then try
to sue the manufacturer, plus any third parties and their dogs, for
negligence.

Indeed. There's the tale of the person who set the cruise control on
their big motorhome, then went into the back to make a sandwich - of
course, it left the road at speed. They sued the manufacturer, because
the handbook didn't say they shouldn't.

Almost certainly apocryphal, of course, but there's usually a grain of
truth behind there somewhere...

If the manual said "The cruise control will not steer for you, nor will it
vary your speed to adjust for other traffic. You *must* remain at the
controls at all times." you'd think it was taking the ****.

On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:27:46 -0000, "Mortimer" wrote:

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
delboy gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Don't forget the litigation culture that exists in America. If they have
an accident entirely though their own fault or stupidity, they then try
to sue the manufacturer, plus any third parties and their dogs, for
negligence.

Indeed. There's the tale of the person who set the cruise control on
their big motorhome, then went into the back to make a sandwich - of
course, it left the road at speed. They sued the manufacturer, because
the handbook didn't say they shouldn't.

Almost certainly apocryphal, of course, but there's usually a grain of
truth behind there somewhere...

If the manual said "The cruise control will not steer for you, nor will it
vary your speed to adjust for other traffic. You *must* remain at the
controls at all times." you'd think it was taking the ****.
A few years ago a work colleague was in Arizona, where she bought one
of those huge concertina-like cardboard sunscreens to put on the front
windscreen when the car is parked. She brought it back with her, just
to show the instructions visible on the inside of the car when it's in
position.
"Do not drive the vehicle with sunscreen in position" it said. That's
how stupid the instructions have to be in the USA to avoid gettind
sued.