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Don't hassle me - I'm riding my bike
On 7/3/2020 10:33 PM, AK wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:50:05 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 It's very sad when bicyclists feel like they need to pack a gun on a ride. If their neighbors are that dangerous, they oughta move. I agree. I once lived in a neighborhood with a dangerous neighbor, although that had nothing to do with bicycling. We did move, and were much happier afterwards. As I've often said, I get very, very little problems from motorists or anyone else. I had colleagues at our city-center university who said they were afraid driving their cars home through the city after night classes. Yet I rode my bike with no trouble. There's a lot of paranoia in America these days. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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John B. writes:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 20:29:52 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote: John B. writes: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote: AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys to anyone in sight. With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!" Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout. This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time. The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but some people get touchy about that. Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why most of them drive pickups. Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time. It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12 shillings: https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? I've got one right now (bib overalls). Anyone wearing 5 pocket jeans has one as well, although it might be a little skimpy for a 3" pistol. Is this a style sort of thing? Bib Overalls? I haven't seen those for 50 years or so and when they were common they were, like a mechanic's "coveralls", primarily work clothing. I certainly don't remember seeing farm folks in town for the Saturday shopping wearing overalls. As for 5 pocket jeans, I guess the Levi's 501 still have a watch pocket :-) What made you think I was in town for Saturday shopping? Pants are totally optional when posting on Usenet, so a person might as well be comfortable. But more to the point, are Levi's 501 or bib overalls, for that matter, acceptable bicycling clothes :-) -- Cheers, John B. -- |
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 12:38:06 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 7/3/2020 11:40 PM, John B. wrote: I suppose it is unfortunate but I grew up in an era when a gentleman didn't wear blue jeans. In fact schools forbid them being worn when attending classes. But I suppose in an effort to show that one is just "one of the herd" so to speak, for those that have never actually engage in physical work, "work" clothes are now de rigueur. Just as walking about with a two day growth of beard is macho. Scruffy is now high fashion. And fashion is weird and powerful! One benefit of the current trend: It doesn't take a lot of effort to be a bit better dressed than most of the crowd. I usually don't care much about that, but if I'm going to a meeting of any kind, I think looking neater than the rest still confers a bit of subconscious advantage. Over here foreigners are required to report to Immigration quarterly to verify their residence and I've noticed that individuals wearing slacks and a button down the front shirt seem to be treated more politely by the Immigration Officials than those wearing dirty shorts and a ripped tee shirt :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 12:39:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 7/3/2020 9:49 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 8:21 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 20:40:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 6:50 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote: AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys to anyone in sight. With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!" Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout. This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets.* Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time. The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but some people get touchy about that. Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why most of them drive pickups. Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time. It's not an overly complex problem.* Upscale model at 12 shillings: https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? You don't?? That's it, buddy - your retrogrouch card is revoked! Actually, the shorts I'm wearing as I type this have even better. It's an additional side pocket sized for a cell phone. One of those pistols could easily fit there. Not that I ride far in these... But side pockets and or (what do they call 'em?) britches with pockets on the legs? "Cargo Pants? Aren't "watch pockets. Unless, of course you consider an alarm clock a "watch" :-) And besides the traditional method for a gentleman to carry a "pocket" pistol is in his vest pocket. Ladies, of course, can easily carry one in their muff :-) -- Cheers, John B. Oh dear how our language has changed. Gresham's Law applies to language too. I've always found it interesting how some words just can't be used in polite society while other words meaning exactly the same thing are perfectly acceptable. My original theory was that Anglo-Saxon terms may have been superceded by Norman French terms in the ruling classes in England after the Battle of Hastings but I'm not certain that is still true today as Andrew's sly comments about "muff" seem to demonstrate. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 13:54:15 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote: John B. writes: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 20:29:52 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote: John B. writes: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote: AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys to anyone in sight. With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!" Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout. This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time. The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but some people get touchy about that. Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why most of them drive pickups. Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time. It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12 shillings: https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? I've got one right now (bib overalls). Anyone wearing 5 pocket jeans has one as well, although it might be a little skimpy for a 3" pistol. Is this a style sort of thing? Bib Overalls? I haven't seen those for 50 years or so and when they were common they were, like a mechanic's "coveralls", primarily work clothing. I certainly don't remember seeing farm folks in town for the Saturday shopping wearing overalls. As for 5 pocket jeans, I guess the Levi's 501 still have a watch pocket :-) What made you think I was in town for Saturday shopping? Pants are totally optional when posting on Usenet, so a person might as well be comfortable. Well when do you do your shopping? Or are you unemployed so that you can go shopping every day although being unemployed you probably can't afford to go shopping :-( But more to the point, are Levi's 501 or bib overalls, for that matter, acceptable bicycling clothes :-) -- Cheers, John B. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Radey Shouman wrote:
What made you think I was in town for Saturday shopping? Pants are totally optional when posting on Usenet, so a person might as well be comfortable. Pants are now totally optional for shopping! You just sit in front of your computer, click on your choice, and send your money to Jeff Bezos. - Frank Krygowski |
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 18:57:04 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote: On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 1:54:17 PM UTC-4, Radey Shouman wrote: What made you think I was in town for Saturday shopping? Pants are totally optional when posting on Usenet, so a person might as well be comfortable. Pants are now totally optional for shopping! You just sit in front of your computer, click on your choice, and send your money to Jeff Bezos. - Frank Krygowski However... it may be a personal trait but I find it so much easier to resist buying some over priced POS when I have to actually take the money out of my pocket and put it down there on the counter :-) (a penny saved IS a penny earned. Particularly when you invest it :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 05:52:27 +0700, John B.
wrote: Over here foreigners are required to report to Immigration quarterly to verify their residence and I've noticed that individuals wearing slacks and a button down the front shirt seem to be treated more politely by the Immigration Officials than those wearing dirty shorts and a ripped tee shirt :-) When I was working in Silly Clone Valley as an engineer, I discovered that unless I was appropriately dressed, I couldn't get anyone to do anything for me. Dressed in my usual dirty jeans, mismatched shirt, and cowboy boots, I would ask the techs or other engineers to do this or that and be ignored. However, if I wore clean slacks, polished dress shoes, a clean shirt, and most important, a tie, it was "Yes sir" and "Right away sir". If I really wanted something really important, I would wear a clean lab coat. Observation: It's the uniform that gets the respect, not the man wearing it. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 20:10:49 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 05:52:27 +0700, John B. wrote: Over here foreigners are required to report to Immigration quarterly to verify their residence and I've noticed that individuals wearing slacks and a button down the front shirt seem to be treated more politely by the Immigration Officials than those wearing dirty shorts and a ripped tee shirt :-) When I was working in Silly Clone Valley as an engineer, I discovered that unless I was appropriately dressed, I couldn't get anyone to do anything for me. Dressed in my usual dirty jeans, mismatched shirt, and cowboy boots, I would ask the techs or other engineers to do this or that and be ignored. However, if I wore clean slacks, polished dress shoes, a clean shirt, and most important, a tie, it was "Yes sir" and "Right away sir". If I really wanted something really important, I would wear a clean lab coat. Observation: It's the uniform that gets the respect, not the man wearing it. Years and years ago I came across a book that went into considerable detail about how your dress causes others to react. The author first describes a scene where a bloke wearing a wildly checked suit, "brogan" shoes and an orange necktie meets a bloke with a dark blue three piece suit, white shirt, French Cuffs with smallish links and a dark red tie. He then points out that he doesn't have to tell you that the first character was a rube from the sticks and the other a successful banker. In business, in Indonesia, when I worked there, an Engineer could wear a short sleeved white shirt and might wear a necktie, or not, and could have a pocket protector with several pencils and pens in his shirt pocket. A Manager wore a long sleeved white shirt, conservative tie and perhaps one, probably gold plated, pen in his pocket. Even wris****ches were indicative of one's position. A multi dial tells the wind direction and humidity watch was obviously an engineer's timepiece while a conservative Rolex, was the mark of the Manager. -- Cheers, John B. |
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Am 04.07.2020 um 05:02 schrieb Jeff Liebermann:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 08:01:52 +0700, John B. wrote: As for 5 pocket jeans, I guess the Levi's 501 still have a watch pocket :-) At some time in the distant past, the "fob pocket" may have been used as a watch pocket. Today, more like a coin or condom pocket: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/small-pocket-jeans-watches-cowboys_n_56a7720ce4b0b87beec5eb5f More than you probably wanted to know: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-our-jeans-have-a-tiny-pocket-just-above-the-front-pocket-Was-it-something-useful-that-was-added-or-is-it-just-a-fashion-thing Am I unique in mostly buying pants that have a "key pocket"? My house keys live in that pocket, and when I wear pant without them, I need to search an awfully long time where the key is. I understand that car drivers can't use their pockets this way because car keys plus house keys are too large, so car keys tend to live in a bowl or drawer... |
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