I never thought I'd wear a necktie with a bike jersey.

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 01:08:58 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
mega-snip

I think that that one wins “Post of the Day”.

Does that compensate for me confusing energy and power?

Cycling jerseys with necktie included:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/0e/b1/a50eb181978293e7d9bb4e4b431c9cb3.jpg
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_5x_KFXXXXaWXpXXq6xXFXXXo/2015-men-Black-tie-british-Gentleman-cycling-jersey-short-Sleeve-and-bib-pants-bike-cycling-clothing.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51vzkUZR%2BOL._SL1001_.jpg

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:35:12 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

Meanwhile everyone has his own likes and dislikes. The Euro
asymmetric granny knot for example:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...election-4.jpg

There are other necktie knots possible:
"30 Different Ways To Tie A Tie That Every Man Should Know"
https://www.shirtsmyway.com/articles/different-ways-how-to-tie-a-tie-knots.php

Drivel: When I was working in Silly Clone valley as an engineer, my
boss insisted that I should "wear a tie to work". To comply, I would
put on a tie in the morning, drive to work, enter the lab, and make a
show of removing the tie. It took about two weeks of this before he
demanded to know what I was doing. When I explained that I took his
instructions literally and was doing EXACTLY what he commanded, he
left muttering something about working in an asylum.

Pinnacle Peak Steakhouse, in San Dimas, CA. Wearing a tie is against
the house rules and will result in having the tie cut off and hung on
the wall, usually along with a business card. One of my ties is
hanging somewhere on the wall:
https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/C2DR6wb30EpWCUWnwMlmoQ/o.jpg
https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/sClBIe7mtxN-59WX8kiG5Q/o.jpg
https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/G3oob_KfqZS0xQCXaMiGdA/o.jpg
https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/yyRuW56eHzL5xRF3jW-XtA/o.jpg

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 01:08:58 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
mega-snip

I think that that one wins “Post of the Day”.

Does that compensate for me confusing energy and power?

Sure. We all have off days. The secret is to let somebody else wear the
pointy hat the next day :-)


Cycling jerseys with necktie included:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/0e/b1/a50eb181978293e7d9bb4e4b431c9cb3.jpg
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_5x_KFXXXXaWXpXXq6xXFXXXo/2015-men-Black-tie-british-Gentleman-cycling-jersey-short-Sleeve-and-bib-pants-bike-cycling-clothing.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51vzkUZR%2BOL._SL1001_.jpg

On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:54:15 -0400, Joy Beeson
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:56:01 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

My wife has found a good pattern for a face mask. It’s curved to fit your
face better and has a pocket for a nose wire to help it conform better to
the upper part of your face. I tease her that it’s just an adaptation of an
underwire bikini pattern, but it works reasonably well.

Don McCunn http://forums.how-to-make-sewing-patterns.com/ uses bra
findings to make custom-fitted masks that fit better than any
mass-produced mask, and he says that he's giving some of them to
medical professionals.

Instead of using a wire, I tuck masks under my glasses.

The orange one that I wear mostly to get out of putting band-aids on
my nose and chin when I go out in the sun and wind, I put on before
putting on my glasses. That brings the mask well up my nose to cover
the keratosis scar as well as the skin graft.

It's beginning to look as though I'll be all healed up before wearing
a mask everywhere requires explanation. And I've got a couple of pink
burns that were old news in April, so I expect to be still covering my
chin when I get my wool clothes out of the blanket box.

Since I dare not go near any people, the white-cravat mask is pretty
much symbolic.

I sweated four band-aids off today, and that was all the spares I'd
brought with me. I now have eight 3/4" bandaids and two 1" bandaids
in my pocket notebook.


I've found that the band-aids with the "fabric" bandage are far more
waterproof than the plastics. In fact NEXCARE fabric band-aids hold up
to several day's bathing/washing and usually require a certain amount
of tugging to get off.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 5:56:41 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:26:19 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:56:04 AM UTC-5, Joy Beeson wrote:
It's a puffy white cravat that I can pull up over my mouth and nose
when I get off.

It's a very simple mask that doesn't call for anything that's hard to
find. I may post a tutorial once we dump Comcast and regain access to
our Web site.

I'm off to my first not-getting-back-for-lunch ride since the skin
graft. Wearing band-aids to keep the sun off. Leaving rather late --
gotta remember how it's done.

--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.

I'm guessing you are a woman with a name like Joy. Men who have worn a necktie for business or formal social occasions, define a "necktie" as a long strip of cloth that is wider at one end than the other. It is tied around the neck using a full windsor, half windsor, or 4 in 1 knot. What you were wearing is not considered a necktie by anyone on earth.

Hmmm, I guess that you have never actually worn formal attire, often
referred to as a "Tuxedo" where the "necktie" is a rather short,
narrow piece of cloth tied in a "bowknot".
The "bow tie" can even be worn with less formal attire like a business
suit.
--
Cheers,

John B.

Bowtie and necktie are two different items. Their names mean different things. Kind of like automobile and motorcycle. Both have engines to power them so they are the same. Right? Or motorcycle and bicycle. Both have two wheels so they are the same. Right? Necktie and bowtie both go around the neck so both are the same. Right? Answer, NO. For a number of years I wore a suit and necktie. And sometimes I wore a bowtie with the suit too. Instead of the necktie. Never both at the same time.

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 6:20:44 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/8/2020 2:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/8/2020 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:56:04 AM UTC-5, Joy Beeson wrote:
It's a puffy white cravat that I can pull up over my mouth and nose
when I get off.

It's a very simple mask that doesn't call for anything that's hard to
find.Â* I may post a tutorial once we dump Comcast and regain access to
our Web site.

I'm off to my first not-getting-back-for-lunch ride since the skin
graft.Â* Wearing band-aids to keep the sun off.Â* Leaving rather late --
gotta remember how it's done.

--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot netÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.

I'm guessing you are a woman with a name like Joy.Â* Men who have worn
a necktie for business or formal social occasions, define a "necktie"
as a long strip of cloth that is wider at one end than the other.Â* It
is tied around the neck using a full windsor, half windsor, or 4 in 1
knot.Â* What you were wearing is not considered a necktie by anyone on
earth.


I understood Joy clearly from the header and I've worn a tie daily for
40+ years.(skinny one inch, full Windsor)

James Bond would have disapproved.

"Bond mistrusted anyone who tied his tie with a Windsor knot. It showed
too much vanity. It was often the mark of a cad."


--
- Frank Krygowski

Problem with a full Windsor knot is it is so huge when tied. It takes a lot of cloth to wrap and tie a full Windsor. Half Windsor is less bulky. But the slimmest knot is the 4 in hand. Or is it 4 in 1? Easiest to tie too..

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 7:35:15 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/8/2020 6:20 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/8/2020 2:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/8/2020 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:56:04 AM UTC-5, Joy
Beeson wrote:
It's a puffy white cravat that I can pull up over my
mouth and nose
when I get off.

It's a very simple mask that doesn't call for anything
that's hard to
find. I may post a tutorial once we dump Comcast and
regain access to
our Web site.

I'm off to my first not-getting-back-for-lunch ride
since the skin
graft. Wearing band-aids to keep the sun off.Â
Leaving rather late --
gotta remember how it's done.

--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and
Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot net      Â
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.

I'm guessing you are a woman with a name like Joy. Men
who have worn a necktie for business or formal social
occasions, define a "necktie" as a long strip of cloth
that is wider at one end than the other. It is tied
around the neck using a full windsor, half windsor, or 4
in 1 knot. What you were wearing is not considered a
necktie by anyone on earth.


I understood Joy clearly from the header and I've worn a
tie daily for 40+ years.(skinny one inch, full Windsor)

James Bond would have disapproved.

"Bond mistrusted anyone who tied his tie with a Windsor
knot. It showed too much vanity. It was often the mark of a
cad."



meh. All the same to a deplorable.

Meanwhile everyone has his own likes and dislikes. The Euro
asymmetric granny knot for example:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...election-4.jpg


I'd guess that is a 4 in hand knot. Never heard of Euro asymmetric granny knot.





Frank should drop in here to mention that one should not
take fashion too seriously:

https://media1.fdncms.com/sacurrent/...brothers_0.jpg

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 7/9/2020 12:37 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 5:56:41 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:26:19 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:56:04 AM UTC-5, Joy Beeson wrote:
It's a puffy white cravat that I can pull up over my mouth and nose
when I get off.

It's a very simple mask that doesn't call for anything that's hard to
find. I may post a tutorial once we dump Comcast and regain access to
our Web site.

I'm off to my first not-getting-back-for-lunch ride since the skin
graft. Wearing band-aids to keep the sun off. Leaving rather late --
gotta remember how it's done.

--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.

I'm guessing you are a woman with a name like Joy. Men who have worn a necktie for business or formal social occasions, define a "necktie" as a long strip of cloth that is wider at one end than the other. It is tied around the neck using a full windsor, half windsor, or 4 in 1 knot. What you were wearing is not considered a necktie by anyone on earth.

Hmmm, I guess that you have never actually worn formal attire, often
referred to as a "Tuxedo" where the "necktie" is a rather short,
narrow piece of cloth tied in a "bowknot".
The "bow tie" can even be worn with less formal attire like a business
suit.
--
Cheers,

John B.

Bowtie and necktie are two different items. Their names mean different things. Kind of like automobile and motorcycle. Both have engines to power them so they are the same. Right? Or motorcycle and bicycle. Both have two wheels so they are the same. Right? Necktie and bowtie both go around the neck so both are the same. Right? Answer, NO. For a number of years I wore a suit and necktie. And sometimes I wore a bowtie with the suit too. Instead of the necktie. Never both at the same time.


There are sets and subsets. There are overlapping sets. Venn diagrams help.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 7/9/2020 1:25 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:35:12 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

Meanwhile everyone has his own likes and dislikes. The Euro
asymmetric granny knot for example:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...election-4.jpg

There are other necktie knots possible:
"30 Different Ways To Tie A Tie That Every Man Should Know"
https://www.shirtsmyway.com/articles/different-ways-how-to-tie-a-tie-knots.php

Drivel: When I was working in Silly Clone valley as an engineer, my
boss insisted that I should "wear a tie to work". To comply, I would
put on a tie in the morning, drive to work, enter the lab, and make a
show of removing the tie. It took about two weeks of this before he
demanded to know what I was doing. When I explained that I took his
instructions literally and was doing EXACTLY what he commanded, he
left muttering something about working in an asylum.

When I first worked as an engineer, I wore a tie and hated it. When I
later started teaching at a small school, most faculty members wore
ties, but my teaching area was distant from the main offices and
adjacent to the machine shop, where ties were forbidden. I kept a clip
on tie in my desk in case it was necessary, but otherwise went without.

When I began teaching at the university, I was happy to learn that my
immediate supervisor didn't wear a tie, although most in our department
did. He claimed his arm had broken and healed badly and he could not tie
a tie. For a while, I kept the clip on tie in reserve, but the fashion
was on its way out. I soon disposed of even the clip on, except for
formal things like accreditation visits.

By the time I retired, almost no engineering faculty wore ties. In fact,
I saw evidence that competence was inversely correlated with ornamental
neck rags.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 7/9/2020 12:56 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/9/2020 1:25 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:35:12 -0500, AMuzi
wrote:

Meanwhile everyone has his own likes and dislikes. The Euro
asymmetric granny knot for example:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...election-4.jpg


There are other necktie knots possible:
"30 Different Ways To Tie A Tie That Every Man Should Know"
https://www.shirtsmyway.com/articles/different-ways-how-to-tie-a-tie-knots.php


Drivel: When I was working in Silly Clone valley as an
engineer, my
boss insisted that I should "wear a tie to work". To
comply, I would
put on a tie in the morning, drive to work, enter the lab,
and make a
show of removing the tie. It took about two weeks of this
before he
demanded to know what I was doing. When I explained that
I took his
instructions literally and was doing EXACTLY what he
commanded, he
left muttering something about working in an asylum.

When I first worked as an engineer, I wore a tie and hated
it. When I later started teaching at a small school, most
faculty members wore ties, but my teaching area was distant
from the main offices and adjacent to the machine shop,
where ties were forbidden. I kept a clip on tie in my desk
in case it was necessary, but otherwise went without.

When I began teaching at the university, I was happy to
learn that my immediate supervisor didn't wear a tie,
although most in our department did. He claimed his arm had
broken and healed badly and he could not tie a tie. For a
while, I kept the clip on tie in reserve, but the fashion
was on its way out. I soon disposed of even the clip on,
except for formal things like accreditation visits.

By the time I retired, almost no engineering faculty wore
ties. In fact, I saw evidence that competence was inversely
correlated with ornamental neck rags.


YMMV utterly.

I have known some very sharp thinkers who habitually wore
Grateful Dead tee shirts and well worn copies at that. I
know some real scumbags who also wear those. There is no
correlation I have ever noticed.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971