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The NSW Premier is a just another grubby politician
The other day she said that she had never had any incidents whilst riding
to work. Wonder why? "On a bike riding behind her was ''Paul'', the beefy NSW policeman who provides protection. A specialist in don't-argue hand signals and stay- where- you-are stares, he can stop any car from getting too close, ensuring the Premier gets to work looking as relaxed as she did at the start of the ride." http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/dream-ride...-faces-uphill- battle-20100319-qma9.html?skin=text-only |
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The NSW Premier is a just another grubby politician
In aus.bicycle on Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:33:28 +0000 (UTC)
terryc wrote: The other day she said that she had never had any incidents whilst riding to work. Wonder why? "On a bike riding behind her was ''Paul'', the beefy NSW policeman who provides protection. A specialist in don't-argue hand signals and stay- where- you-are stares, he can stop any car from getting too close, ensuring the Premier gets to work looking as relaxed as she did at the start of the ride." On the bright side... THis shows that it's possible, that being monstered by traffic isn't inevitable. That people can damn well see bikes, and damn well behave properly around them, they just need incentive. The real trick is to internalise the incentive. Punishment only means 'you get hurt if you get caught', the only way you get real safety is for people to be brought up to think behaving properly around bikes is just what you do. Zebee |
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The NSW Premier is a just another grubby politician
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
On the bright side... THis shows that it's possible, that being monstered by traffic isn't inevitable. That people can damn well see bikes, and damn well behave properly around them, they just need incentive. The real trick is to internalise the incentive. Punishment only means 'you get hurt if you get caught', the only way you get real safety is for people to be brought up to think behaving properly around bikes is just what you do. That's nice, but we're not going to see the effects of that for a very bloody long time. I'd like to not be killed right now if at all possible. My theory of "perception of threat" still holds: If your sleeve sports a logo that sells some product and or service, you're going to have trouble. If your sleeve sports a logo that implies "I can **** you more than you can **** me", you're not. |
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The NSW Premier is a just another grubby politician
In aus.bicycle on Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:19:36 +1100
John Tserkezis wrote: Zebee Johnstone wrote: The real trick is to internalise the incentive. Punishment only means 'you get hurt if you get caught', the only way you get real safety is for people to be brought up to think behaving properly around bikes is just what you do. That's nice, but we're not going to see the effects of that for a very bloody long time. I'd like to not be killed right now if at all possible. My theory of "perception of threat" still holds: If your sleeve sports a logo that sells some product and or service, you're going to have trouble. If your sleeve sports a logo that implies "I can **** you more than you can **** me", you're not. My motorcycle experience seems to be the same as the pushbike experience: be menacing or cute/interesting and you get good behaviour. The most visible motorcycle I ever had was the 'Orrible 'Onda Chop which was a fairly full on badguy sortof motorcycle. The next was the Baby Beemer an unbearably cute 250cc from 1952. The least visible were all the "normal" ones although the one with the big white fairling apparently looked rather like a cop bike in a rear vision mirror... The 'bent seems to fall in the interesting category and so gets good behaviour most of the time. There are times I think the state government should raise money by renting out cameras. You pay $200 for 4 hours of carrying their camera around, and you are guaranteed that every illegal act you film gets the perpertrator hauled up before a magistrate. Zebee |
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The NSW Premier is a just another grubby politician
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:19:36 +1100 My motorcycle experience seems to be the same as the pushbike experience: be menacing or cute/interesting and you get good behaviour. Zebee There's one more issue to consider. Don't ride in close proximity to an attractive distraction. Two days ago I was in traffic in Melbourne. In front, at the head of a queue, was a middle aged guy and a twenty-something woman, both cyclists. The girl was to the left of the lane and the guy out further so he was straight in front of the driver behind. When they took off at about 20 - 25km/h the driver collided with the rear wheel of the man. It all happened in slow motion. He got closer and closer the the surprised cyclist was tumbling to the ground. I can only assume that (a) the driver was looking at the woman or (b) Victoria issues drivers licences to blind people. |
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