Will Stein or Var crank extractor system work with Stronglight crank?

Hello all.
Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These extractor
systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make them
self extracting.
The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
Many thanks
Dan Burkhart


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Dan Burkhart

Dan Burkhart wrote:
Hello all.
Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These extractor
systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make them
self extracting.
The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
Many thanks


Sheldon's site shows a double ended puller that does 23mm cranks. By
the way, why are you troubling with such a mutt of a set up? I would
just pull the bolts, ride the cranks till they fell off and then throw
them away -- but that is just me.

P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
-- Jay Beattie.

Jay Beattie Wrote:
Dan Burkhart wrote:
Hello all.
Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These
extractor
systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make
them
self extracting.
The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
Many thanks


Sheldon's site shows a double ended puller that does 23mm cranks. By
the way, why are you troubling with such a mutt of a set up? I would
just pull the bolts, ride the cranks till they fell off and then throw
them away -- but that is just me.

P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
-- Jay Beattie.

Well, if it were mine, I would likely consider that, but this bike and
the lady who owns it have a lot of history together, and she likes it
the way it is.
Dan


--
Dan Burkhart

Dan Burkhart wrote:
Jay Beattie Wrote:
Dan Burkhart wrote:
Hello all.
Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These
extractor
systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make
them
self extracting.
The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
Many thanks


Sheldon's site shows a double ended puller that does 23mm cranks. By
the way, why are you troubling with such a mutt of a set up? I would
just pull the bolts, ride the cranks till they fell off and then throw
them away -- but that is just me.

P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
-- Jay Beattie.

Well, if it were mine, I would likely consider that, but this bike and
the lady who owns it have a lot of history together, and she likes it
the way it is.
Dan

I beleive if you look carefully enough @ BikeToolsETC. You will find
what you need. Rhe organization of their sight sucks. They couild use
Sheldon to build their site, But if U look hard enough or phone them, I
think youw will find what you need. Sheldon may have them also.

Good Luck, They are out there, John

john wrote:
Dan Burkhart wrote:
Jay Beattie Wrote:
Dan Burkhart wrote:
Hello all.
Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These
extractor
systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make
them
self extracting.
The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
Many thanks


Sheldon's site shows a double ended puller that does 23mm cranks. By
the way, why are you troubling with such a mutt of a set up? I would
just pull the bolts, ride the cranks till they fell off and then throw
them away -- but that is just me.

P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
-- Jay Beattie.

Well, if it were mine, I would likely consider that, but this bike and
the lady who owns it have a lot of history together, and she likes it
the way it is.
Dan

I beleive if you look carefully enough @ BikeToolsETC. You will find
what you need. Rhe organization of their sight sucks. They couild use
Sheldon to build their site, But if U look hard enough or phone them, I
think youw will find what you need. Sheldon may have them also.

Good Luck, They are out there, John

Dear John,

The BikeToolsEtc site is fairly easy to navigate:

www.biketoolsetc.com

Click on the tools tab on the top right.

Click on crank in the alphabetical list that appears on the left.

Click on extractor-Stronglight or extractor-TA in the sub-tree that
pops up.

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...rs-Stronglight

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...xtra ctors-TA

Or go to Sheldon:

www.harriscyclery.com

Click on tools, then click on crank/chainwheels, which actually takes
you to the bottom bracket section:

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/bottombracket.html

Page down a while.

Regrettably, both BikeToolsEtc and Sheldon are out of stock on both
tools.

To be fair, BikeToolsEtc says so up front. On Sheldon's site, you have
to add the item to your basket to find out that it ain't there.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

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john wrote:

Dear John,

The BikeToolsEtc site is fairly easy to navigate:

www.biketoolsetc.com

Click on the tools tab on the top right.

Click on crank in the alphabetical list that appears on the left.

Click on extractor-Stronglight or extractor-TA in the sub-tree that
pops up.

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...rs-Stronglight

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...xtra ctors-TA

Or go to Sheldon:

www.harriscyclery.com

Click on tools, then click on crank/chainwheels, which actually takes
you to the bottom bracket section:

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/bottombracket.html

Page down a while.

Regrettably, both BikeToolsEtc and Sheldon are out of stock on both
tools.

To be fair, BikeToolsEtc says so up front. On Sheldon's site, you have
to add the item to your basket to find out that it ain't there.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Hi Carl

I can't agree. Here's an example:

Find: 2.0/1.5 x 261mm spokes; on both sites.

I could inundate you w/ other examples, but I'll spare us both.

Don't get me wrong, I like BTE very much & order from them regularly.
But thank god I have their catalog & I order by phone.

The other thing is that UPS ground usually takes 1 day from BTE & a
week & a day from Sheldon. Of course Boston to Santa Rosa, Ca is
probably in the 90th percentile of distances that can be traveled over
the contiguous United States.

See whaddt I mean ...man?

On 17 Aug 2006 06:45:29 -0700, "john" wrote:


wrote:

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john wrote:

Dear John,

The BikeToolsEtc site is fairly easy to navigate:

www.biketoolsetc.com

Click on the tools tab on the top right.

Click on crank in the alphabetical list that appears on the left.

Click on extractor-Stronglight or extractor-TA in the sub-tree that
pops up.

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...rs-Stronglight

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...xtra ctors-TA

Or go to Sheldon:

www.harriscyclery.com

Click on tools, then click on crank/chainwheels, which actually takes
you to the bottom bracket section:

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/bottombracket.html

Page down a while.

Regrettably, both BikeToolsEtc and Sheldon are out of stock on both
tools.

To be fair, BikeToolsEtc says so up front. On Sheldon's site, you have
to add the item to your basket to find out that it ain't there.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Hi Carl

I can't agree. Here's an example:

Find: 2.0/1.5 x 261mm spokes; on both sites.

I could inundate you w/ other examples, but I'll spare us both.

Don't get me wrong, I like BTE very much & order from them regularly.
But thank god I have their catalog & I order by phone.

The other thing is that UPS ground usually takes 1 day from BTE & a
week & a day from Sheldon. Of course Boston to Santa Rosa, Ca is
probably in the 90th percentile of distances that can be traveled over
the contiguous United States.

See whaddt I mean ...man?

Dear John

Again, that's rather easy to do with BikeToolsEtc.

www.biketoolsetc.com

Click on power search near the top, since you want a specific spoke
length and diameter.

Enter "spoke" and "261mm" and select "match all words" and there you
are, Sapim Laser 14/17g 261mm bag of 20 for $12.95, no nipples:

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...id=SA-LDB14261
or http://tinyurl.com/q6vco

As for Sheldon . . .

www.harriscyclery.com

Search for spokes (on the site, which is the default).

Click on the first google-within-site hit, which takes you to wheels
and wheel parts . . .

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/wheels.html

Click on "spokes" in the alphabetized index . . .

And Harris doesn't sell 2.0 x 1.5 spokes, so try the QBP catalogue
link below the spokes, which takes you to a nice selector:

http://harriscyclery.net/page.cfm?ac...rch=yes&type=T

Put in the 261mm length (twice, to limit the search) and the 2.0 x 1.5
butting and . . .

http://harriscyclery.net/page.cfm?Pa...ea rch=Search
or http://tinyurl.com/ghjc3

DT Swiss, bag of 72, with nipples, $76--ouch!

Please learn to use both sites better before inundating us with more
examples that only show that BikeToolsEtc works quite nicely.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

wrote:

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Please learn to use both sites better before inundating us with more
examples that only show that BikeToolsEtc works quite nicely.

When I read the above comment, I'm confused if you realize that I'm
not criticizing Sheldon's site. I find it to be very intuitive 7 easy
to navigate. My problems come w/ BTE. Which I use a lot. In an ideal
world (at least my ideal world) I wish it were easier to find stuff @
BTE. However, having said that, I realize that my on line searching
ability leaves a lot to be desired. I often search & search for
something for way too long before finally finding it, or just giving
up, only to find it at a later date by random good luck. Often I end up
pounding my fists & stomping my feet & screaming in total frustration,
knowing it's out there somewhere, but I can't find it. I've
understood cows & quadrupeds reasonably well since the 7th grade or
whenever I studied logic. But that doesn't really seem to relate to
most on line searches that I do.

I know that you are a master at on line searches. I absolutely can not
believe how fast you find stuff on line, judging by the time between
posts. I'm certainly not asking you to explain how you do it, but
could you direct me toward some good sources to study? I mean for
example; @ BTE, how did you know to choose the words "spoke" and
"261mm" and select "match all words" in the advanced area? A short time
ago when I actually did this search, I ended up scrolling through
almost 10 pages w/ 10 (I think) listings of Sapim spokes per page,
before finding what I was looking for. In desperation, I started
skipping pages hoping to hit the correct type spoke & then narrow it
down to the length.

Any books or on line references would be greatly appreciated.


DT Swiss, bag of 72, with nipples, $76--ouch!

$76 Yeah ouch! & I prefer Sapim. Also I like to buy spokes w/o nipples,
so that if I want different nipples that 'stock' I don't have to
pay twice.

Thanks, John

On 18 Aug 2006 06:53:17 -0700, "john" wrote:

wrote:

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Please learn to use both sites better before inundating us with more
examples that only show that BikeToolsEtc works quite nicely.

When I read the above comment, I'm confused if you realize that I'm
not criticizing Sheldon's site. I find it to be very intuitive 7 easy
to navigate. My problems come w/ BTE. Which I use a lot. In an ideal
world (at least my ideal world) I wish it were easier to find stuff @
BTE. However, having said that, I realize that my on line searching
ability leaves a lot to be desired. I often search & search for
something for way too long before finally finding it, or just giving
up, only to find it at a later date by random good luck. Often I end up
pounding my fists & stomping my feet & screaming in total frustration,
knowing it's out there somewhere, but I can't find it. I've
understood cows & quadrupeds reasonably well since the 7th grade or
whenever I studied logic. But that doesn't really seem to relate to
most on line searches that I do.

I know that you are a master at on line searches. I absolutely can not
believe how fast you find stuff on line, judging by the time between
posts. I'm certainly not asking you to explain how you do it, but
could you direct me toward some good sources to study? I mean for
example; @ BTE, how did you know to choose the words "spoke" and
"261mm" and select "match all words" in the advanced area? A short time
ago when I actually did this search, I ended up scrolling through
almost 10 pages w/ 10 (I think) listings of Sapim spokes per page,
before finding what I was looking for. In desperation, I started
skipping pages hoping to hit the correct type spoke & then narrow it
down to the length.

Any books or on line references would be greatly appreciated.


DT Swiss, bag of 72, with nipples, $76--ouch!

$76 Yeah ouch! & I prefer Sapim. Also I like to buy spokes w/o nipples,
so that if I want different nipples that 'stock' I don't have to
pay twice.

Thanks, John

Dear John,

Searching is mostly experience, patience, and trying different
filters.

I searched for spoke and 261mm at BikeToolsEtc because I saw no
obvious spoke section and that's what you were looking for.

If that hadn't worked, I'd have tried spokes and 261, and so forth.

As for sources to study, I'd google for "how to search":

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=%2...s=&safe=images
or http://tinyurl.com/epsb5

For experience, develop bizarre interests and waste vast amounts of
time.

As an exercise, what's the Ryom number for the most recently
recognized work by Vivaldi? And what does the RV in RV 542 stand for?

And where can I get RV165, 355, 365, and 385 on a single CD by
Guidantus? Posters whimpering that they can't get oddball crank
extractors don't know what suffering means.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

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wrote:

On 18 Aug 2006 06:53:17 -0700, "john" wrote:


[...]

I know that you are a master at on line searches. I absolutely can not
believe how fast you find stuff on line, judging by the time between
posts. I'm certainly not asking you to explain how you do it, but
could you direct me toward some good sources to study? I mean for
example; @ BTE, how did you know to choose the words "spoke" and
"261mm" and select "match all words" in the advanced area? A short time
ago when I actually did this search, I ended up scrolling through
almost 10 pages w/ 10 (I think) listings of Sapim spokes per page,
before finding what I was looking for. In desperation, I started
skipping pages hoping to hit the correct type spoke & then narrow it
down to the length.

Any books or on line references would be greatly appreciated.

Dear John,

Searching is mostly experience, patience, and trying different
filters.

I searched for spoke and 261mm at BikeToolsEtc because I saw no
obvious spoke section and that's what you were looking for.

If that hadn't worked, I'd have tried spokes and 261, and so forth.

As for sources to study, I'd google for "how to search":

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=%2...s=&safe=images
or http://tinyurl.com/epsb5

For experience, develop bizarre interests and waste vast amounts of
time.

As an exercise, what's the Ryom number for the most recently
recognized work by Vivaldi? And what does the RV in RV 542 stand for?

Answer further on.

One of my toughest search jobs was looking for a good
article on normal kidney function. Success came when I
found ADH (anti diuretic hormone) in one of the search
results; so I added ADH to the search and excluded
`dialysis', as the latter cluttered up my search results.

http://academic.sun.ac.za/med_physbi...ysiology/dept/
kidney.htm

To "john":
Notice that I did not search on phrases, did not exclude
words, did not search on disjunction (at least one of the
words); three very useful tools. I used simple words. The
way to learn to search is to persevere. When you get a
bunch of search results that do not meet your needs refine
the search using phrases; excluding certain words or
phrases; and disjunction.

Search on:
RV 541

find
http://www.idrs.org/www.idrs/publica...ournal2/jnl11/
recob.html
`Ryom Catalog. The most recent contribution to the
literature has been provided by Peter Ryom. He has
inventoried and organized the total known output of
Vivaldi ( Verzeichnis der Werke Antonio Vivaldi. Leipzig:
VEB Deutscher Verlag fur Musik, 1974.). It is this system
which he used in preparing his worklist of the
compositions of Vivaldi for the New Grove and is the core
of the present study.'

Search on:
peter ryom vivaldi

find
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.co...erzeichnis+(Wo
rks+of+Vivaldi+list+by+Peter+Ryom)
RV Ryom Verzeichnis (Works of Vivaldi list by Peter Ryom)

Search on:
german english dictionary
find
http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/
Verzeichnis means directory.

Answer Ryom Verzeichnis.

Notice that the word Verzeichnis appears in the first
search, but I chose not to track down the `V' words.

Add http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com to my
bookmarks.

--
Michael Press