Take the lane. Any lane. Or both of them.

https://ktla.com/2019/10/26/video-dr...n-silver-lake/
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Andrew Muzi
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On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 8:24:59 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/2019/10/26/video-dr...n-silver-lake/
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This is an everyday occurrence in California.

On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:24:59 UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/2019/10/26/video-dr...n-silver-lake/
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Too bad he was riding in the middle of that road. Had he been on the right side of the road the car would most likely have missed him. The first time I watched the videos I thought it was a one-way street but then in one of the videos I saw a car going the opposite direction of the mini-cooper.

Cheers

On 28/10/2019 3:56 p.m., Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:24:59 UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/2019/10/26/video-dr...n-silver-lake/
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Too bad he was riding in the middle of that road. Had he been on the right side of the road the car would most likely have missed him. The first time I watched the videos I thought it was a one-way street but then in one of the videos I saw a car going the opposite direction of the mini-cooper.

Cheers


I thought the same. Looks like they were both riding in the middle of
the road. No lane markings. I would have been to the right I think but
it's hard to know what the circumstances were from this video. Maybe
the cyclist had a reason for avoiding the right side though I didn't see
any cars or anything.

On Monday, 28 October 2019 16:09:22 UTC-4, duane wrote:
On 28/10/2019 3:56 p.m., Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:24:59 UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/2019/10/26/video-dr...n-silver-lake/
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Too bad he was riding in the middle of that road. Had he been on the right side of the road the car would most likely have missed him. The first time I watched the videos I thought it was a one-way street but then in one of the videos I saw a car going the opposite direction of the mini-cooper.

Cheers


I thought the same. Looks like they were both riding in the middle of
the road. No lane markings. I would have been to the right I think but
it's hard to know what the circumstances were from this video. Maybe
the cyclist had a reason for avoiding the right side though I didn't see
any cars or anything.

IIRC, in the video at the top of the page (that video is no longer visible for me) near the end of that video you saw a car going in the opposite direction of the mini-cooper.

Another thing I think I see in the video still up is that the bicyclist actually stopped before the car hit him. Again if the bicyclist had swerved whilst sprinting he may have avoided being hit.

None of these are intended to remove blame from the driver for not stopping.. Perhaps the driver didn't stop because they needed time for alcohol or drugs to leave their system?

Cheers

Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, 28 October 2019 16:09:22 UTC-4, duane wrote:
On 28/10/2019 3:56 p.m., Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:24:59 UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/2019/10/26/video-dr...n-silver-lake/
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Too bad he was riding in the middle of that road. Had he been on the
right side of the road the car would most likely have missed him. The
first time I watched the videos I thought it was a one-way street but
then in one of the videos I saw a car going the opposite direction of the mini-cooper.

Cheers


I thought the same. Looks like they were both riding in the middle of
the road. No lane markings. I would have been to the right I think but
it's hard to know what the circumstances were from this video. Maybe
the cyclist had a reason for avoiding the right side though I didn't see
any cars or anything.

IIRC, in the video at the top of the page (that video is no longer
visible for me) near the end of that video you saw a car going in the
opposite direction of the mini-cooper.

Another thing I think I see in the video still up is that the bicyclist
actually stopped before the car hit him. Again if the bicyclist had
swerved whilst sprinting he may have avoided being hit.

None of these are intended to remove blame from the driver for not
stopping. Perhaps the driver didn't stop because they needed time for
alcohol or drugs to leave their system?

Cheers


My thought was that maybe the driver was in the Center of the road for the
same reason that the cyclist was. Hard to say for our arm chairs.

My suggestion regarding hit-and-run drivers is that leaving the scene of a crash should be legally regarded as proof of intent.

On 10/30/2019 6:08 AM, Chalo wrote:
My suggestion regarding hit-and-run drivers is that leaving the scene of a crash should be legally regarded as proof of intent.


It's already a serious crime in itself. On paper anyway.

Like 'felon in possession' and 'use of firearm in commission
of a crime', 'leaving the scene' and 'failure to render
aid' are seldom charged.

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Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 6:36:18 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/30/2019 6:08 AM, Chalo wrote:
My suggestion regarding hit-and-run drivers is that leaving the scene of a crash should be legally regarded as proof of intent.


It's already a serious crime in itself. On paper anyway.

Like 'felon in possession' and 'use of firearm in commission
of a crime', 'leaving the scene' and 'failure to render
aid' are seldom charged.


It's a felony in Oregon and often charged as a fall-back or along with an assault crime. https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/811.705

-- Jay Beattie

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 11:08:25 AM UTC, Chalo wrote:
My suggestion regarding hit-and-run drivers is that leaving the scene of a crash should be legally regarded as proof of intent.

+1

Andre Jute
Chalo has a habit of cutting to the nub of the matter