Sore Knees

I ride about 4 times a week, 3 x 30km rides and one 80km ride.
I am getting sore knees, but not on my knee, jusy above them.
Any ideas as too why.
Seat height maybe.?
Thanks

"robbie" wrote in message

I ride about 4 times a week, 3 x 30km rides and one 80km ride.
I am getting sore knees, but not on my knee, jusy above them.
Any ideas as too why.
Seat height maybe.?

Soreness just above the knee usually indicates your saddle is too low. That
means at the top of the stroke knee flexion is increased and so your quads
have to work harder to force that leg down. What you're feeling is the
result of that extra strain. Raising the saddle to its proper height will
decrease knee flexion at the top of the stroke so your leg will be
relatively straighter, your quads won't have to work quite so hard and you
won't get sore in that area.

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I get the same problem...the saddle height makes sense...I was ripped
off
and sold a small frame when at 6'2 I should have had a large frame.
How did I get ripped off you might ask? Because I was told the
bike in large size was in stock and if I came back the following day
it would be assembled. (The demo model was small so I had already
pointed this out). Some time later I noticed the sticker with the size
label had been peeled off...the remnants were still there.
Obviously that bike shop had only the small ones in stock and couldn't
be bothered ordering the correct size for me.

I've got the saddle up as far as it will safely go, but obviously
not as far as it needs to go. Not something that made itself evident
when I first had the bike as it was a million times better than the no
name
$100 rigid that it replaced, but as my riding skills and distances
increased the sore knee factor would come in sometimes as
early as 30km into the ride. Painful enough to have to stop
riding Anyway, I wore out all the running gear and the rear shock
after 2000kms so time to get a better bike.


DRS Wrote:
"robbie" wrote in message

I ride about 4 times a week, 3 x 30km rides and one 80km ride.
I am getting sore knees, but not on my knee, jusy above them.
Any ideas as too why.
Seat height maybe.?

Soreness just above the knee usually indicates your saddle is too low.
That
means at the top of the stroke knee flexion is increased and so your
quads
have to work harder to force that leg down. What you're feeling is
the
result of that extra strain. Raising the saddle to its proper height
will
decrease knee flexion at the top of the stroke so your leg will be
relatively straighter, your quads won't have to work quite so hard and
you
won't get sore in that area.

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mds2076

mds2076 Wrote:

I get the same problem...the saddle height makes sense...I was ripped
off
and sold a small frame when at 6'2 I should have had a large frame.
How did I get ripped off you might ask? Because I was told the
bike in large size was in stock and if I came back the following day
it would be assembled. (The demo model was small so I had already
pointed this out). Some time later I noticed the sticker with the size
label had been peeled off...the remnants were still there.
Obviously that bike shop had only the small ones in stock and couldn't
be bothered ordering the correct size for me.

For something that dodgy.. you should be naming the shop!
Actually, how come you didn't take the bike back and rip through them?

Great way to create return customers and encourage cycling.. the
dicks!

hippy


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hippy

Of course in retrospect I should have...but was way too late by
the time I'd worked out what had happened. This was when I first
got into mtb and was somewhat naiive about everything. Besides,
the guy who owned the shop adjusted the saddle 'correctly' for me
so I assumed all was well.
I thought the knee pain must be something to do with me once it
started to show up...not fit enough etc...
Reading articles about bike fit started to get me suspicious though
and when I bought my next bike (from elsewhere of course),
I insisted on the large size,(making sure that's what I actually got)
and adjusted the fit myself. Funnily enough the knee pain factor
never occured riding this bike.
Well, I won't name the bike shop exactly, but it's in Blaxland. Those
of you who live in the Blue Mts will know it . The
guy who runs it seems more interested in importing Principia
road bikes than anything else he sells; bad move going to a road
bike shop to buy a mtb I guess.
For all the newbies about to buy a bike, the moral of the story
is to learn about bike fit before you even walk into a bike shop
and get duped by the smiling salesman assuring you the bike
fits. Don't buy a mtb from a shop that specialises in road bikes only.


hippy Wrote:
For something that dodgy.. you should be naming the shop!
Actually, how come you didn't take the bike back and rip through them?

Great way to create return customers and encourage cycling.. the
dicks!

hippy


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mds2076

mds2076
Well, I won't name the bike shop exactly, but it's in Blaxland. Those
of you who live in the Blue Mts will know it . The
guy who runs it seems more interested in importing Principia
road bikes than anything else he sells; bad move going to a road
bike shop to buy a mtb I guess.

That's funny because I read somewhere that Principia had gone bust..
Can anyone confirm this?

Here's one example (pity all the rest is foreign):
http://www.riis-cycling.com/forum/to...p?TOPIC_ID=468

hippy


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hippy

mds2076 wrote in
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I get the same problem...the saddle height makes sense...I was ripped
off
and sold a small frame when at 6'2 I should have had a large frame.

I did something similar, but on purpose. I got a Cannondale F600 with a
medium frame rather than large (I'm also 6'2") with a very long seat post.
This gives me more freedom of movement for throwing the bike around from
side to side, something which is very handy on the more technical, slow
speed rides I like doing.

Graeme

I'm getting plenty of soreness in my left ankle... right in the join
area (just under the ball on my ankle)... it really starts to hurt at
around 80km mark of a ride, and on the weekend, i had to stop riding.

any ideas on remedies?


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kyra

kyra wrote:

I'm getting plenty of soreness in my left ankle... right in the join
area (just under the ball on my ankle)... it really starts to hurt at
around 80km mark of a ride, and on the weekend, i had to stop riding.

any ideas on remedies?

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kyra

Set up an indoor trainer in front of a mirror and check out your leg
action from the front. If you knee is moving in and out excessively or
your foot is flicking side to side a lot, that could cause the problem.
It could be seat height or fore/aft position. Or it could be because the
natural movement of your foot isn't centred with the cleat position, so
you get some "pressing" that you work to resist while you ride, in which
case you'd just need to fix that. (I'm assuming you're using red
look-style cleats here, which is bad of me, but I can't help you
otherwise)

Tam