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"Daniel Barlow" wrote in message ... JohnB writes: I cannot agree more. You can talk and argue until you are blue in the face but still people will drive just a few hundred yards. They*know* you are right but they cannot make the change. There are always excuses. This sounds like almost as horrible a generalisation as "cyclists are all lawless lycra louts who hold up traffic and strike terror into the hearts of innocent pedestrians" I can quite believe there are some people like that: I've worked with a few people myself who I don't expect to see on a bike ever in my life (perhaps barring major life-shaking event of the "good morning Mr Smith, the operation seems to have been successful; now make sure you take regular exercise or you won't last to the end of the year"). Doesn't mean _everyone_ is like that, though. The oft-quoted statistic is that cycle use increased 30% in London since the congestion charge was introduced, so clearly at least a year ago there were non-cyclists who weren't completely car-blinded. I doubt the supply is exhausted even now. I agree with this. What we need is some means of making the first mile or three of a car journey really quite awkward, to deter people from the shorter journeys. For example, if the govt. were to introduce road tolls, you could have a very high charge for the first few miles, (in order to deter stupidly short journeys), after which the per mile rate would decrease for every mile after that so you don't end up with a penalty on reasonable car journeys. I agree that people know that they shouldn't drive such short journeys - but I don't think most people realise *why* they shouldn't drive such short journeys. I think people would be much more sensible if they realised how much it costs them to make such short journeys (as Guy points out in his one mile pledge post), instead of just preaching to people (as most people will simply switch off from that). |
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"iarocu" wrote in message So if people are prepared to sit in their cars for twice as long as it would take to cycle the goverment might as well forget targets for cycle use. It's not going to happen. No kudos in the car park if you arrive on a "push bike". -- Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W http://www.simonmason.karoo.net |
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Yay pedal-powered post-apocalypse scenarios. I should pop into my LBS this weekend sometime and see if they've got any rotating knives I can clip to my spokes. Now there's a plan. Obvious handlbar mounted ones might not be a bad idea as it'd discourage drivers from getting too close. As ever, Sheldon Brown has addressed the matter: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lirpa.html#bayonetz -- Mark, UK. We hope to hear him swear, we love to hear him squeak, We like to see him biting fingers in his horny beak. |
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Simon Mason wrote:
"iarocu" wrote in message So if people are prepared to sit in their cars for twice as long as it would take to cycle the goverment might as well forget targets for cycle use. It's not going to happen. No kudos in the car park if you arrive on a "push bike". If you arrive on the bike regualrly, you start to lose the gut, your arse and legs trim up a bit and your willy gets bigger (1). You get more eye-ups from women. Sod the kudos from the petrol heads. (1) I read it so it must be true, fat tissue creates oestrogen which makes it smaller. Also a thinner layer of subcutanious fat makes it stick out further. -- Andy Morris AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK Love this: Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ |
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AndyMorris wrote:
If you arrive on the bike regualrly, you start to lose the gut, your arse and legs trim up a bit and your willy gets bigger (1). You mean all those e-mails I've been sending to the Spam bin were really about cycling? Tony ;-) |
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