10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?

Amazingly, this winter in Colorado I have been able to ride comfortably
outside every single week, sometimes several days per week.
Comfortable (for me) is 45F or warmer and winds less than 15 mph. This
is pretty amazing compared with some of the previous winters. So, my
indoor trainer time has been kept to a minimum. At the most, I do 45
minutes to an hour on the indoor trainer, using a video for motivation.

On 28 Feb 2005 04:30:39 -0800, Maggie wrote:

Neil Cherry wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:23:15 -0000, wafflycat wrote:

"chris c" wrote in message
...
I live in Western NY so the roads are all flat except for your
minor hills
and that. If I do 10 miles on my staionary bike everyday, will it
be easy
for me to do 10 miles on the road bike? Obviously the speed is
harder to
keep the same especially on hills. I find myself aroun 20 mph on
the st.
bike. Thanks



I much prefer rding a real bike on the road than a pretned
stationary one
:-) Being out in the fresh air on a bike is way more interesting and
fun
than being on a stationary one indoors. On a real bike, 10 miles is
heaven
for me, on a stationary one, 10 miles is hell.

I really have to agree! Though I can't push myself to ride on the
road
at a consistant 25 mph pace (I can on the rollers) I can ride for
hours at 18 mph (solo), on the road, for about 100 miles. The thought
of riding for less than ~6 hours on the rollers would be insane ,
even
if it were at 18 mph. 25 miles is the limit for me on the rollers and
is barely a lunchtime ride.

I wish the weather would get better in Jersey so I could figure out if
it is easier to ride on a stationary bike or ride out on the road. I
have become good friends with the bike which does not go anywhere.
This weather is getting freaking ridiculous. Having a bike in Jersey
is like owning a boat boat in the desert. Nice to have it, but what do
you do with it?

Only 22 days 'til spring!

OK, here is some good news (no really), if you can ride on a spin bike
for 1 hour at a reasonable pace (for what you intend to do) then you
can do it on a bike on the road. No they're not the same but the
differences balance out (close enough for government work). There are
a whole lot of factors to take into account for your 25 mile ride.
Psychologically, being able to go out and ride a similar distance is a
big plus but that won't come until we get some decent weather. But
there is the physiological part also. I like to call it saddle time. I
find that in the early season that the legs are willing but the rump
is raw (the mind is long gone :-). This limits my early season riding
a huge amount. But if I ride the rollers (consistently) for an hour I
have no trouble with rides up to 62 miles (100Km). After 62 I need to
build up saddle time or my rump gets raw (this is without Butt
Butter). I don't expect you to be able to ride 62 miles as it took me
a few years to build up to that but I believe 25 will be easier than
you think especially once you do it.


Maggie...thinking of moving to the Keys.

Cape May? ;-)


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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:38:26 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
wrote:


"Jeff Starr" wrote: (clip) If not, would anyone be willing to make me a
copy of any of the spinervals. I would happily pay for the blank tape,
shipping, and ???(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jeff, maybe you don't realize that this would be a violation of the
copyright. I know it's done all the time, but not by me--it's the same as
stealing.



Hi, yes you are correct, it isn't the right thing to do. So, I'll
amend my request, does anyone have any spin videos that they no longer
use? Would you like to sell them?

I honestly don't make a habit of copying media of any type. Often the
music that I listen to, doesn't sell in large numbers and the artists
need all the support that they can get. One good example of this is
Juliana Hatfield.


Life is Good!
Jeff

"Jeff Starr" wrote: (clip)I honestly don't make a habit of copying media of
any type. Often the music that I listen to, doesn't sell in large numbers
and the artists need all the support that they can get. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good for you, Jeff! Some of my friends copy and trade recorded music
freely, and they think I am kind of odd for not doing it. It's amazing how
they rationalize what they do: "CD's are way overpriced." "Anything that
encourages more listening is good." "The musicians are being screwed by the
recording companies anyway, so it doesn't make any difference."

10 minutes on a stationary bike and I'm bored out of my skull (even in
front of the TV... or should say "espesially" in front of the TV) but I
can ride all day in the road.


--
Dominic Sansom

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:18:01 +1100, Dominic Sansom wrote:

10 minutes on a stationary bike and I'm bored out of my skull (even in
front of the TV... or should say "espesially" in front of the TV) but I
can ride all day in the road.

I used to fall asleep on the rollers (actually kind of comical). I
stopped that by increasing the tempo to the point I was guaranteed not
to be able to fall asleep. I think I was in the 75-85% range. I'd
rather climb a real mountain than ride the rollers but i'd rather ride
the rollers than stare at snow wishing I could ride!

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Neil Cherry Wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:18:01 +1100, Dominic Sansom wrote:

10 minutes on a stationary bike and I'm bored out of my skull (even
in
front of the TV... or should say "espesially" in front of the TV) but
I
can ride all day in the road.

I used to fall asleep on the rollers (actually kind of comical). I
stopped that by increasing the tempo to the point I was guaranteed not
to be able to fall asleep. I think I was in the 75-85% range. I'd
rather climb a real mountain than ride the rollers but i'd rather ride
the rollers than stare at snow wishing I could ride!


I'm lucky enough to live in a country with a climate that allows year
round cycling. Sleeveless jerseys at 5am mid winter - if you can call
it winter.


--
Dominic Sansom

NY Rides wrote:
Chris:

Also keep in mind that, if you haven't been on a real bike in a
while, you
may not have a good concept of what a "flat" road is. What may look
and
feel flat from a car might actually have just enough of an incline to
frustrate the heck out of you when you get out there on a chilly
morning
right after breakfast and try to zip through your ten-mile ride.

As the cycling season here in New York wears on, I get in some good
distance
rides on a daily basis. However, my first ride of the season is
usually a
couple of times around the block just to get the lungs in shape and
to get
acclimated to my bike again. When I get home from that ride, I
usually feel
like I've got a concrete block around my neck. The second and third
rides
are no more than about five miles. By the end of the first week, ten
miles
feels like nothing.

Although I think what people are saying here is absolutely true, I
would
highly recommend that, regardless what you are doing on your
stationary bike
all winter, you take it slow when you first hit the pavement on your
road
bike. One bad experience that sends you home huffing and puffing can
turn
you right off bicycling for a long time.



I am just hoping I remember how to ride the darn bike since I bought it
in September or October or whenever the hell I bought it. The blizzard
in Jersey last night should have that white stuff on the ground for a
long while. And I hear another storm is right behind this one. The
stationary bike has become my friend. Along with the treadmill and the
gym. My goal is to ride my bike to work every day. Hopefully spring
is not far away and I can make this a reality. Then maybe I will have
something worthwhile to discuss on this newsgroup. So far I have
discussed everything but bikes. ;-)
All good things,
Maggie

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 04:14:55 GMT, "chris c" wrote:

I live in Western NY so the roads are all flat except for your minor hills
and that. If I do 10 miles on my staionary bike everyday, will it be easy
for me to do 10 miles on the road bike? Obviously the speed is harder to
keep the same especially on hills. I find myself aroun 20 mph on the st.
bike. Thanks

20mph, but at what power setting? Pedalling at 20mph on fairly flat roads
for 10 miles is definitely intermediate level riding ability, imo. You'll
have to decide if the position on the stationary bike is similar enough to
your road bike so it works the same muscles. You might need more neck and
shoulder conditioning, however we're only talking 30 min of riding.

Since I was snowed in yesterday (5"), I rode my old stationary bike, one of
those department store things with a strap and fly-wheel.

Observations:
Definitely a little harder than riding 10 miles on the flats, since there's
no coasting, even a little bit. ;-)
Quads definitely got pumped, but after 35 minutes, that eased off and I got
a second-wind.
Watching TV and/or playing fast songs on the stereo, it was pretty easy to
ride for 50 minutes.
With the big seat that comes with those, the worst effect is my butt got
numb at 40minutes, otherwise I could have easily gone past an hour.
No soreness the next day.
Not sure how much cycling-specific training effect, since the position is
different.

Conclusion:
Dump the stationary bike and get a trainer for 200 bucks (or get rollers)
if you have a lot of bad winter weather. Been lucky this winter. Only about
5 days of weather too bad to ride outdoors. (US, mid-atlantic region).

jj

Well, Maggie - I did a great Colorado ride today - on our "Urban Trail
System" - you feel as if you are in the country, but you really are in
the city. Temp - about 54F, little wind, 1.5 hours of fine riding!

Hope your weather gets better. A shame not to be able to ride outside.
Perhaps a "non-rain" dance?