Cyclists injured by handsaw wielding Mike Vandeman

On May 27, 8:15*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
http://www.nsmb.com/3692-fabian-barel-injured/

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm

On Friday, May 28, 2010 UCPD received a report of an assault with a
deadly weapon which had occurred around 6 weeks earlier. The assault
occurred on a Sunday on the East-West Fire Trail located in the hills
above campus. The victims, two non-affiliated White males, reported
the crime after hearing of similar incidents occurring to bicyclists
on the fire trail. The victims were riding their bicycles westbound
on the trail when they encountered the suspect walking in the opposite
direction. The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the
victims across the chest with the saw. The victims asked the suspect
why he had attacked them. He told them they should not be riding
their bicycles on the trail. The victims positively identified the
suspect from a photograph. UCPD contacted the suspect who admitted to
holding a saw in front of some bicyclists on a trail and contacting
one of them with the saw. The suspect was subsequently taken into
custody. One of the victims suffered minor injuries during the
assault. Additional charges may be filed from similar incidences on
the fire trail including one reported in a crime alert on May 6, 2010.

The suspect is described as:

VANDEMAN, Michael J., a White non-affiliated male, 67 years of age.

If you have any information about this crime, please contact:
University of California Police Department
Criminal Investigation Bureau
(510) 642-0472 / 8AM-5PM
(510) 642-6760 / All other times

| The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the victims
| across the chest with the saw.

=v= "Some folks call it a sling blade."
_Jym_

On Jun 2, 1:38*pm, Karamba wrote:
On May 27, 8:15*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

http://www.nsmb.com/3692-fabian-barel-injured/

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm

On Friday, May 28, 2010 UCPD received a report of an assault with a
deadly weapon which had occurred around 6 weeks earlier. *The assault
occurred on a Sunday on the East-West Fire Trail located in the hills
above campus. *The victims, two non-affiliated White males, reported
the crime after hearing of similar incidents occurring to bicyclists
on the fire trail. *The victims were riding their bicycles westbound
on the trail when they encountered the suspect walking in the opposite
direction. The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the
victims across the chest with the saw. *The victims asked the suspect
why he had attacked them. *He told them they should not be riding
their bicycles on the trail. *The victims positively identified the
suspect from a photograph. *UCPD contacted the suspect who admitted to
holding a saw in front of some bicyclists on a trail and contacting
one of them with the saw. *The suspect was subsequently taken into
custody. *One of the victims suffered minor injuries during the
assault. *Additional charges may be filed from similar incidences on
the fire trail including one reported in a crime alert on May 6, 2010.

The suspect is described as:

VANDEMAN, Michael J., a White non-affiliated male, 67 years of age.


It was only a matter of time. Makes you wonder what else he has been
up to.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Karamba
wrote:

On May 27, 8:15*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
http://www.nsmb.com/3692-fabian-barel-injured/

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm

On Friday, May 28, 2010 UCPD received a report of an assault with a
deadly weapon which had occurred around 6 weeks earlier. The assault
occurred on a Sunday on the East-West Fire Trail located in the hills
above campus. The victims, two non-affiliated White males, reported
the crime after hearing of similar incidents occurring to bicyclists
on the fire trail. The victims were riding their bicycles westbound
on the trail when they encountered the suspect walking in the opposite
direction. The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the
victims across the chest with the saw. The victims asked the suspect
why he had attacked them. He told them they should not be riding
their bicycles on the trail. The victims positively identified the
suspect from a photograph. UCPD contacted the suspect who admitted to
holding a saw in front of some bicyclists on a trail and contacting
one of them with the saw. The suspect was subsequently taken into
custody. One of the victims suffered minor injuries during the
assault. Additional charges may be filed from similar incidences on
the fire trail including one reported in a crime alert on May 6, 2010.

The suspect is described as:

VANDEMAN, Michael J., a White non-affiliated male, 67 years of age.


He's supplied the DA with plenty of premeditation / motive/ intent via
his Usenet postings/rants..

If you have any information about this crime, please contact:
University of California Police Department
Criminal Investigation Bureau
(510) 642-0472 / 8AM-5PM
(510) 642-6760 / All other times

On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:15:18 -0400, T. Keating
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Karamba
wrote:

On May 27, 8:15*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
http://www.nsmb.com/3692-fabian-barel-injured/

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm

On Friday, May 28, 2010 UCPD received a report of an assault with a
deadly weapon which had occurred around 6 weeks earlier. The assault
occurred on a Sunday on the East-West Fire Trail located in the hills
above campus. The victims, two non-affiliated White males, reported
the crime after hearing of similar incidents occurring to bicyclists
on the fire trail. The victims were riding their bicycles westbound
on the trail when they encountered the suspect walking in the opposite
direction. The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the
victims across the chest with the saw. The victims asked the suspect
why he had attacked them. He told them they should not be riding
their bicycles on the trail. The victims positively identified the
suspect from a photograph. UCPD contacted the suspect who admitted to
holding a saw in front of some bicyclists on a trail and contacting
one of them with the saw. The suspect was subsequently taken into
custody. One of the victims suffered minor injuries during the
assault. Additional charges may be filed from similar incidences on
the fire trail including one reported in a crime alert on May 6, 2010.

The suspect is described as:

VANDEMAN, Michael J., a White non-affiliated male, 67 years of age.


He's supplied the DA with plenty of premeditation / motive/ intent via
his Usenet postings/rants..

What we need now is for Ed Dolan to serve as his defense attorney.

Wayne

On Jun 2, 1:38*pm, Karamba wrote:
On May 27, 8:15*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:

http://www.nsmb.com/3692-fabian-barel-injured/

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm

Thanks for posting.

Gotta wonder who was behind this other incident...

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/index.html

On Monday, May 10, 2010 UCPD received a report of a brandishing and
false imprisonment which occurred at approximately 1:26 p.m. on
Thursday, May 6, 2010. The incident took place on the upper fire
trail located between Grizzly Peak Blvd and the eastern side of the UC
Berkeley campus. The victim, a 33 year old Hispanic male student, was
riding his bicycle on the trail when a man stepped directly in front
of his bicycle forcing him to stop. The suspect grabbed the handle
bars of the bike, while depressing the brake lever. The suspect
angrily yelled at the victim regarding his bicycle ruining the trail
and the environment. The suspect let go of the victim’s bicycle and
brandished a small tool with a sharp end. Upon the release of his
bicycle, the victim was able to flee the scene. The suspect is
similar in description to a subject who has had numerous
confrontations with bicyclists on the fire trail which is open to
hikers, but closed to vehicular traffic, including bicycles.

The suspect was described as:

A White male, approximately 50 to 60 years of age, 5’08-5’09” in
height, 175 lbs., with black and grey short hair, wearing reading
glasses, a tan fishing hat, grey t-shirt, khaki shorts and carrying a
hard-covered book.

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On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:15:18 -0400, T. Keating
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Karamba
wrote:

On May 27, 8:15 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
http://www.nsmb.com/3692-fabian-barel-injured/

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm

On Friday, May 28, 2010 UCPD received a report of an assault with a
deadly weapon which had occurred around 6 weeks earlier. The assault
occurred on a Sunday on the East-West Fire Trail located in the hills
above campus. The victims, two non-affiliated White males, reported
the crime after hearing of similar incidents occurring to bicyclists
on the fire trail. The victims were riding their bicycles westbound
on the trail when they encountered the suspect walking in the opposite
direction. The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the
victims across the chest with the saw. The victims asked the suspect
why he had attacked them. He told them they should not be riding
their bicycles on the trail. The victims positively identified the
suspect from a photograph. UCPD contacted the suspect who admitted to
holding a saw in front of some bicyclists on a trail and contacting
one of them with the saw. The suspect was subsequently taken into
custody. One of the victims suffered minor injuries during the
assault. Additional charges may be filed from similar incidences on
the fire trail including one reported in a crime alert on May 6, 2010.

The suspect is described as:

VANDEMAN, Michael J., a White non-affiliated male, 67 years of age.


He's supplied the DA with plenty of premeditation / motive/ intent via
his Usenet postings/rants..

Let's see ... two middle aged men vs. one elderly man? I wonder who was
being aggressive first.

What we need now is for Ed Dolan to serve as his defense attorney.

All these anti-Vandeman posts are absurd. It is the Lilliputians taking
their revenge. We KNOW there is more to the story than what has been
reported. If the moutain bikers were typical California yahoos, it is a
wonder the Great Mike Vandeman did not slaughter them outright. Yea, a
"California chainsaw massacre" is what is needed.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:15:18 -0400, T. Keating
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Karamba
wrote:

On May 27, 8:15 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
http://www.nsmb.com/3692-fabian-barel-injured/

http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm

On Friday, May 28, 2010 UCPD received a report of an assault with a
deadly weapon which had occurred around 6 weeks earlier. The assault
occurred on a Sunday on the East-West Fire Trail located in the hills
above campus. The victims, two non-affiliated White males, reported
the crime after hearing of similar incidents occurring to bicyclists
on the fire trail. The victims were riding their bicycles westbound
on the trail when they encountered the suspect walking in the opposite
direction. The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the
victims across the chest with the saw. The victims asked the suspect
why he had attacked them. He told them they should not be riding
their bicycles on the trail. The victims positively identified the
suspect from a photograph. UCPD contacted the suspect who admitted to
holding a saw in front of some bicyclists on a trail and contacting
one of them with the saw. The suspect was subsequently taken into
custody. One of the victims suffered minor injuries during the
assault. Additional charges may be filed from similar incidences on
the fire trail including one reported in a crime alert on May 6, 2010.

The suspect is described as:

VANDEMAN, Michael J., a White non-affiliated male, 67 years of age.


He's supplied the DA with plenty of premeditation / motive/ intent via
his Usenet postings/rants..

Let's see ... two middle aged men vs. one elderly man? I wonder who was
being aggressive first.

What we need now is for Ed Dolan to serve as his defense attorney.

All these anti-Vandeman posts are absurd. It is the Lilliputians taking
their revenge. We KNOW there is more to the story than what has been
reported. If the moutain bikers were typical California yahoos, it is a
wonder the Great Mike Vandeman did not slaughter them outright. Yea, a
"California chainsaw massacre" is what is needed.



Ed, by YOUR OWN STANDARDS, these bike riders were engaged in a permissible
activity! They were riding on a vehicle route, not on a hiking trail.

Vandeman is charged with assault with a deadly weapon, and should be charged
with attempted murder. (Actually, charging him with attempted murder would
raise the bar enough that he might actually be set free by a jury.)

On 03/06/10 9:00 AM, Jeff Strickland wrote:

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Vandeman is charged with assault with a deadly weapon, and should be charged
with attempted murder. (Actually, charging him with attempted murder would
raise the bar enough that he might actually be set free by a jury.)

Yeah, you've got to be careful with charges that way. I doubt if the
case will be heard by a jury, it'll probably be plea-bargained to a
fine, some months in the county jail, then probation, but no state
prison time, especially if it's a first offense. The state prisons are
so over-crowded that for a first offender the prosecutor would probably
not push for prison time. OTOH, it was a violent felony, not a
misdemeanor, so you never know what can happen. There could be civil
suits as well, though it's unlikely there are any significant assets to
go after.

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On 03/06/10 9:00 AM, Jeff Strickland wrote:

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Vandeman is charged with assault with a deadly weapon, and should be
charged
with attempted murder. (Actually, charging him with attempted murder
would
raise the bar enough that he might actually be set free by a jury.)

Yeah, you've got to be careful with charges that way. I doubt if the case
will be heard by a jury, it'll probably be plea-bargained to a fine, some
months in the county jail, then probation, but no state prison time,
especially if it's a first offense. The state prisons are so over-crowded
that for a first offender the prosecutor would probably not push for
prison time. OTOH, it was a violent felony, not a misdemeanor, so you
never know what can happen. There could be civil suits as well, though
it's unlikely there are any significant assets to go after.



Well, Vandeman is a PhD, after all, and should have a well paying job at the
university. He looks like a hobo in the booking shot though.

All I can say is, "Mike, don't drop the soap."