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"hit him back first"
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Badger North wrote: 1993 was the year UFC 1 was broadcast, and marked for many a revolutionary change against the claimed superiority of traditional martial arts. An earlier such change could be marked from 1970 when kickboxer Joe Lewis knocked out karateka Greg Baines in the second round of their fight, but it didn't have as big a ripple, and kickboxing in general didn't have much staying power in the public eye at the time. Badger North www.youngforest.ca I guess that means don't **** off my 29 year old daughter who is taller than me, size 13 feet, and a kick boxer. She started out doing it as aerobics then got hooked. My 'little' girl is no longer little. Sigh, parenthood. Thanks for the input. Bill Baka My daughter's into arnis, kenjutsu and (various styles of) knife.. Brings a tear to the eye, it does. P. |
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The heart hit is all too real. There was a big thing on the news about a high school football player dieing after an opponent hit him in the heart. Sure; that sort of thing unfortunately happens. But there are two things you need to consider. First, the level of impact is far greater when you're dealing with the mass of an entire football player running at full speed behind a helmet, versus anything you're going to generate with a palm strike. Second, players get hit in the chest all the time in football; many times per game. Death from it is exceedingly rare. Your chances of stopping the heart with a palm strike are extremely slim, to the point of being basically negligable. It may be possible, but it's not something that you (or anybody) is going to pull off on demand, and certainly not something that anyone should depend on happening. Again, people get hit all the time in the chest, be it fighting or sports, and very few actually die from it. When it does happen it's a freak accident; not something on which to base your personal protection. Do you have any idea what kind of impact is required to do something like that? *Have you ever watched professional fighting? *People kick one another in the legs all the time; it is exceedingly rare to see a leg bent, much less broken backwards. *And it's a safe bet these professional fighters are kicking a heck of a lot harder than a fiftyish bike rider. This fiftyish bike rider had more than enough leg muscle from hard riding every day. I used to ride up a 950 foot mountain every day and you don't do that with weak legs. You don't think professional fighters work their legs? These are people who train for powerful technique; their livelihood depends on it. |
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"hit him back first"
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:30:55 -0700 (PDT), Badger North
wrote: On Jun 11, 10:14 am, Bill wrote: I guess that means don't **** off my 29 year old daughter who is taller than me, size 13 feet, and a kick boxer. She started out doing it as aerobics then got hooked. My 'little' girl is no longer little. Sigh, parenthood. Yeah, they grow up, I'm told. My 10-y-o and I were rough-housing the other day, and I got him in a standing hold - both arms trapped, head trapped. I said "whaddya going to do now, smart guy?" So, he kneed me in the balls - a perfect shot. Makes a father proud. good thing you don't need those balls any more. Hal Badger North www.youngforest.ca |
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On Jun 10, 7:57*pm, Bill wrote:
wrote: At the proper angle, it might bleed a little more and you might cause some additional superficial damage. *In all seriousness, just for the innocents that might be lurking, you will never, ever, no matter what angle you hit it at, drive someones nose into their brain. Possibly not with the palm hit, but a well placed hit to the bridge of the nose with a body hard point like an elbow, or a classic karate chop with a hardened hand should do it. Look at a human skull and it is apparent that those 2 nasal holes are a weak point. The nose is cartilage. *Even if there was enough of it to reach the brain - which there isn't - it will compress instead of driving backwards into the brain. *I suppose if you hit hard enough you could crack the skull itself, but by that point the nose is pretty much irrelevant to the process. The "nose into the brain" thing is a myth. I thought it might be. That was shown in one of the firestarter movies with George C. Scott offing someone with a chop to the nose. Because everything else in that movie was sooo believable.... |
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On Jun 11, 10:52 am, wrote:
good thing you don't need those balls any more. Damn straight, especially if they're just going to generate reinforcements for him! Badger North www.youngforest.ca |
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"Bill" wrote in message ... Can you think back about 35 years. I had the Kawasaki 750cc, 3 cylinder, 2 stroke that would do 160 stock. I added bigger carbs, super flow air filters, and Denco headers in addition to a one tooth larger front sprocket for higher top speed and a little more gas mileage. Stock, the engine would wimp out at about 7,500 RPM. After I made the changes it came to life at 7,500 RPM and was still pulling super hard at 12,000. It could have gone more but I didn't want anything blowing up between my legs. With the CHP chasing me 170 MPH (on the peg) was about 7,500 RPM, but the tach kept on climbing to about 9,500-10,000 RPM. My nose was on the handlebars since I could not even attempt to sit up at that speed. This bike broke the rear wheel loose at 135 MPH on a turn once so it had well over 100 HP. People used to drag race them and get low 9 seconds and 135-140 MPH in the quarter mile. The near 200 was a best guess based on the tach since the speedo was pegged so hard even a bump would not unseat it. I did 10 miles in about 3.5 minutes, but that includes accelerating and braking so I don't have a hard number. The bikes did have a bad reputation among racers who said they were greased lightning but the center cylinder was prone to overheating. 200mph on a 1970s Kawasaki. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Fraser |
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"Badger North" wrote in message ... On Jun 11, 10:14 am, Bill wrote: I guess that means don't **** off my 29 year old daughter who is taller than me, size 13 feet, and a kick boxer. She started out doing it as aerobics then got hooked. My 'little' girl is no longer little. Sigh, parenthood. Yeah, they grow up, I'm told. My 10-y-o and I were rough-housing the other day, and I got him in a standing hold - both arms trapped, head trapped. I said "whaddya going to do now, smart guy?" So, he kneed me in the balls - a perfect shot. Makes a father proud. Did he knock them outta the jar on the mantlepiece your wife keeps them in? ; ) Fraser |
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"Pboud" wrote in message news:bkR3k.833$L03.518@edtnps92... Fraser Johnston wrote: "Bill" wrote in message ... That happened to me in 2001, but it was a drunk 22 year old. I was 52 at the time and he got out and pushed me off the bike. My response was to flat palm him in the forehead and knock him all the way across the street without killing him with a harder palm to the nose and up into his brain. *applause* The idiot got up and came back for more, so I just danced with him and deflected his shots until the police arrived. Three different moms sitting on their porches all called 911 and almost all the town cops showed up. I took all kinds of martial arts back in the 60's and 70's but all that came to mind at the time was 'kill shots' either open hand to the heart or nose, elbow to the throat or elsewhere, and I did not feel like going to jail to explain. *standing ovation* Looks like RMA is back to the heady days of the late 90s. And I for one welcome our TMA overlords. If they need anyone to give them a hand setting up shop in their McDojos I'd be proud to answer the call. Fraser Hey.. if it'll get you up here, I can set one up... Beer-fridge mandatory, training optional.. :P SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fraser |
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