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"hippy" wrote in message .. . Originally posted by L'Acrobat Athletes, who can get huge endorsements if they win, are prepared to cheat to do so. Is it still cheating if everyone is doing it? Yes. |
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Unkey Munkey wrote:
L'acrobat wrote: I'm stunned. Which leads me to another pet hate .. that professional athletes don't have to pay back any of the money spent on them at the AIS. I have to pay HECs on my university training, why can't they pay it on their sports training? - Munk3y you're right. You shouldn't have to pay HECS either. Education is a community investment. -- |
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"ProfTournesol" wrote in message .. . Unkey Munkey wrote: L'acrobat wrote: I'm stunned. Which leads me to another pet hate .. that professional athletes don't have to pay back any of the money spent on them at the AIS. I have to pay HECs on my university training, why can't they pay it on their sports training? - Munk3y you're right. You shouldn't have to pay HECS either. Education is a community investment. That depends on the course. A great many in the community resent paying tax so some pretentious git can do a "gender studies" course that will return nothing to the community. |
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Originally posted by Shane Stanley
hippy wrote: You can't have it both ways... either ALL athletes pay tax on their winnings or none. Not necessarily. For example, a professional farmer pays tax and clainms deductions, but a small hobby farmer does neither. Same goes for professional punters, as opposed to the mug in the street. There's plenty of precedent. Did you just argue in favour of the athletes NOT paying tax? Why doesn't a hobby farmer pay tax? Same reason a cyclist or javelin thrower doesn't - they are not doing it for the income? hippy -- |
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Originally posted by Shane Stanley
hippy wrote: Is it still cheating if everyone is doing it? Yes. Mmm maybe if you follow the dictionary definition.. but if these guys have a choice of taking drugs and competing at the top level or not taking drugs and never seeing top level competition, I know which option most will choose.. hippy -- |
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Originally posted by Plodder
snip sportspeople are entertainers explanation Yes, I like this reasoning much better.. It might take a while but I'll get it eventually.. TAX HER TAX HER!! Remember that people going to uni/school on scholarships aren't paying for their education - same thing here? Hmmm... what do I pay to the Uni every semester? Scotch mist? Certainly feels like money... Did you fail to see the "on scholarships" in that sentence? I paid for my course but then I wasn't on a scholarship like some others I know. They didn't pay. hippy -- |
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Originally posted by Unkey Munkey
hippy wrote: Furthermore... (can you tell I'm up for a whinge/argument? ) .. okay .. you, me , carpark - now! Do you know how big I am? :P This explains the reasoning behind the decision: http://www.gf.com.au/articles_222.htm yes, the descision found *against* her in respect of money earned from appearance fees, sponsorships and endorsements. She didn't want to pay tax on this money, I think she should, and the court agreed with me. Okay, but this wasn't her prize money. I agree that appearance fees should be treated as income, just not prize money. "[t]he grants in dispute were not made in order to compensate Ms Stone for income that she would otherwise have derived. They were grants made to enable her to bear the additional costs and expenses of competing. Those costs and expenses include, as indicated above, training and coaching expenses, apparel and gear, and travel." "The Commissioner espoused the view in Taxation Ruling TR 1999/17 that prizes and awards are assessable where they are received from carrying on a business of participating in sport. The Commissioner acknowledges that money and other benefits received from a hobby or pastime is not assessable. " So I don't have to pay tax on my winnings.. yay :P I can't see why not. Musicians, poets and artists are assessed on all their income, I can't see what makes sportspeople a special case. Even if they win a poetry competition or similar? Munk3y .. proving that you can't avoid death, taxes, and hearing my opinion. Plugs ears... "la la la laaa" ;-) hippy -- |
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Originally posted by L'Acrobat
Someone else wrote: you're right. You shouldn't have to pay HECS either. Education is a community investment. That depends on the course. A great many in the community resent paying tax so some pretentious git can do a "gender studies" course that will return nothing to the community. So... where do I enrol for gender studies? Do I get to pick the gender? ;-D hippy -- |
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hippy wrote:
Originally posted by Unkey Munkey hippy wrote: Furthermore... (can you tell I'm up for a whinge/argument? ) .. okay .. you, me , carpark - now! Do you know how big I am? :P hmm ... If you think I'm going to lower the tone of this thread with crude sexual innuendo then you can think again! :P This explains the reasoning behind the decision: http://www.gf.com.au/articles_222.htm yes, the descision found *against* her in respect of money earned from appearance fees, sponsorships and endorsements. She didn't want to pay tax on this money, I think she should, and the court agreed with me. Okay, but this wasn't her prize money. I agree that appearance fees should be treated as income, just not prize money. I'll agree with you there. I'll back off on the prizemoney bit. It just got my hackles up that she didn't want to declare appearance fees, sponsorship and endorsements as income. I think my boss should pay me an appearance fee for turning up to work! - Munk3y |
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"hippy" wrote in message ... Did you fail to see the "on scholarships" in that sentence? I paid for my course but then I wasn't on a scholarship like some others I know. They didn't pay. hippy Oops... my bad! I must have skipped "on scholarships" in mid-rant. :-) Saying that, though, a scholarship isn't worth all that much. I'm on a fee-waiver (an ersatz scholarship) and study with a number of people on varuious scholarships. We all still have to put our hands quite deeply into our own pockets. Largely, a scholarship helps, but doesn't cover expenses. That's why I'm still working (23 years in the same job... that's not a career, it's a sentence!) Cheers, Me |
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