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Old March 19th 18, 08:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default How long should pedals last?

Yesterday one of the pedals on my road bike started making noise. By the
end of the ride there was a large amount of play on the pedal axle. I
was waiting for the whole thing to disintegrate but I made it home.

I ordered some new MKS pedals this morning, but I'm wondering what kind
of mileage I should get out of a set of pedals. These are the original
pedals that came with my Specialized Sirrus. They are plaform pedals,
since I prefer toe-clips to SPD.

Also breaking yesterday was my Nashbar floor pump, after fixing a flat
on my wife's bicycle (and the glue in my REMA patch kit was dried up)
the check valve was flaky and the handle also kept coming out of the
tube section. Pumped up the tires with my old Zefal HPX. Ordered a new
pump along with the pedals.

Ate lunch in Shallow Alto where Apple was having some Apple Pay
promotion at a bunch of stores and restaurants, but of course couldn't
get the lunch deal with my Android phone. This was iDiscrimination.

Came home and there had been a power failure and my Internet was down
because the UPS had blown.
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Old March 19th 18, 08:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default How long should pedals last?

On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 3:46:05 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Yesterday one of the pedals on my road bike started making noise. By the
end of the ride there was a large amount of play on the pedal axle. I
was waiting for the whole thing to disintegrate but I made it home.

I ordered some new MKS pedals this morning, but I'm wondering what kind
of mileage I should get out of a set of pedals. These are the original
pedals that came with my Specialized Sirrus. They are plaform pedals,
since I prefer toe-clips to SPD.

Also breaking yesterday was my Nashbar floor pump, after fixing a flat
on my wife's bicycle (and the glue in my REMA patch kit was dried up)
the check valve was flaky and the handle also kept coming out of the
tube section. Pumped up the tires with my old Zefal HPX. Ordered a new
pump along with the pedals.

Ate lunch in Shallow Alto where Apple was having some Apple Pay
promotion at a bunch of stores and restaurants, but of course couldn't
get the lunch deal with my Android phone. This was iDiscrimination.

Came home and there had been a power failure and my Internet was down
because the UPS had blown.


My Campag NR pedals are still serviceable after over 40 years. My SPDs are showing a bit of wear after 6 years.
--
Andrew Chaplin
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Old March 20th 18, 04:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default How long should pedals last?

On 3/19/2018 3:51 PM, wrote:
On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 3:46:05 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Yesterday one of the pedals on my road bike started making noise. By the
end of the ride there was a large amount of play on the pedal axle. I
was waiting for the whole thing to disintegrate but I made it home.

I ordered some new MKS pedals this morning, but I'm wondering what kind
of mileage I should get out of a set of pedals. These are the original
pedals that came with my Specialized Sirrus. They are plaform pedals,
since I prefer toe-clips to SPD.

Also breaking yesterday was my Nashbar floor pump, after fixing a flat
on my wife's bicycle (and the glue in my REMA patch kit was dried up)
the check valve was flaky and the handle also kept coming out of the
tube section. Pumped up the tires with my old Zefal HPX. Ordered a new
pump along with the pedals.

Ate lunch in Shallow Alto where Apple was having some Apple Pay
promotion at a bunch of stores and restaurants, but of course couldn't
get the lunch deal with my Android phone. This was iDiscrimination.

Came home and there had been a power failure and my Internet was down
because the UPS had blown.


My Campag NR pedals are still serviceable after over 40 years. My SPDs are showing a bit of wear after 6 years.


I've got a set of Lyotard Mod 23s that I bought around 1975. These
things have zero sealing on the crank side bearings, but they've got
tens of thousands of miles on them. Admittedly, they don't see much rain.


--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old March 20th 18, 02:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default How long should pedals last?

On 3/19/2018 10:02 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/19/2018 3:51 PM, wrote:
On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 3:46:05 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Yesterday one of the pedals on my road bike started
making noise. By the
end of the ride there was a large amount of play on the
pedal axle. I
was waiting for the whole thing to disintegrate but I
made it home.

I ordered some new MKS pedals this morning, but I'm
wondering what kind
of mileage I should get out of a set of pedals. These are
the original
pedals that came with my Specialized Sirrus. They are
plaform pedals,
since I prefer toe-clips to SPD.

Also breaking yesterday was my Nashbar floor pump, after
fixing a flat
on my wife's bicycle (and the glue in my REMA patch kit
was dried up)
the check valve was flaky and the handle also kept coming
out of the
tube section. Pumped up the tires with my old Zefal HPX.
Ordered a new
pump along with the pedals.

Ate lunch in Shallow Alto where Apple was having some
Apple Pay
promotion at a bunch of stores and restaurants, but of
course couldn't
get the lunch deal with my Android phone. This was
iDiscrimination.

Came home and there had been a power failure and my
Internet was down
because the UPS had blown.


My Campag NR pedals are still serviceable after over 40
years. My SPDs are showing a bit of wear after 6 years.


I've got a set of Lyotard Mod 23s that I bought around 1975.
These things have zero sealing on the crank side bearings,
but they've got tens of thousands of miles on them.
Admittedly, they don't see much rain.



The bearings are remarkably durable in those despite
appearances but the top plate rivets wear through at which
point the platform falls off. After wearing out 3 pairs
(10~12 years each) I moved on to a different style. They are
cute, just expensive now.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old March 20th 18, 05:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default How long should pedals last?

On 3/20/2018 9:13 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/19/2018 10:02 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/19/2018 3:51 PM, wrote:
On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 3:46:05 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Yesterday one of the pedals on my road bike started
making noise. By the
end of the ride there was a large amount of play on the
pedal axle. I
was waiting for the whole thing to disintegrate but I
made it home.

I ordered some new MKS pedals this morning, but I'm
wondering what kind
of mileage I should get out of a set of pedals. These are
the original
pedals that came with my Specialized Sirrus. They are
plaform pedals,
since I prefer toe-clips to SPD.

Also breaking yesterday was my Nashbar floor pump, after
fixing a flat
on my wife's bicycle (and the glue in my REMA patch kit
was dried up)
the check valve was flaky and the handle also kept coming
out of the
tube section. Pumped up the tires with my old Zefal HPX.
Ordered a new
pump along with the pedals.

Ate lunch in Shallow Alto where Apple was having some
Apple Pay
promotion at a bunch of stores and restaurants, but of
course couldn't
get the lunch deal with my Android phone. This was
iDiscrimination.

Came home and there had been a power failure and my
Internet was down
because the UPS had blown.

My Campag NR pedals are still serviceable after over 40
years. My SPDs are showing a bit of wear after 6 years.


I've got a set of Lyotard Mod 23s that I bought around 1975.
These things have zero sealing on the crank side bearings,
but they've got tens of thousands of miles on them.
Admittedly, they don't see much rain.



The bearings are remarkably durable in those despite appearances but the
top plate rivets wear through at which point the platform falls off.
After wearing out 3 pairs (10~12 years each) I moved on to a different
style. They are cute, just expensive now.


A couple times, I've tightened the rivets (which are actually integral
parts of the steel stampings) using a hammer and punch or chisel.

Instead of "expensive now" I thought those were completely unobtainable!

For Christmas a couple years ago, I was given a modern copy, the MKS
Urban Platform pedals. I generously put them on the back of our tandem,
so I haven't actually used them myself. But those aren't expensive, and
the bearings seem well sealed.

Those don't have a ton of miles on them. Our tandem never sees rain,
based on my wife's preference, but I suspect the finish on those would
begin to look grungy after lots of exposure to elements.

Of course, compared to the 40-year-old chromed steel of the Lyotards,
"grungy" is a relative term.


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- Frank Krygowski
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Old March 19th 18, 09:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default How long should pedals last?

On 2018-03-19 12:46, sms wrote:
Yesterday one of the pedals on my road bike started making noise. By the
end of the ride there was a large amount of play on the pedal axle. I
was waiting for the whole thing to disintegrate but I made it home.

I ordered some new MKS pedals this morning, but I'm wondering what kind
of mileage I should get out of a set of pedals. These are the original
pedals that came with my Specialized Sirrus. They are plaform pedals,
since I prefer toe-clips to SPD.


I get around 5000mi out of pedals and it doesn't seem to matter much
what their price was. Then the bearings are gone. Similar with bottom
brackets. I have always lived in or near hilly terrain which probably
doesn't help.

My preferences are big MTB pedals, both on the MTB and on the road bike.
No clips of any kind.


Also breaking yesterday was my Nashbar floor pump, after fixing a flat
on my wife's bicycle (and the glue in my REMA patch kit was dried up)
the check valve was flaky and the handle also kept coming out of the
tube section. Pumped up the tires with my old Zefal HPX. Ordered a new
pump along with the pedals.

Ate lunch in Shallow Alto where Apple was having some Apple Pay
promotion at a bunch of stores and restaurants, but of course couldn't
get the lunch deal with my Android phone. This was iDiscrimination.


I would have left and made sure to let them know why.


Came home and there had been a power failure and my Internet was down
because the UPS had blown.



Look at the bright side: It didn't cause a carpet fire.

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Old March 20th 18, 01:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default How long should pedals last?

On 20/03/18 07:43, Joerg wrote:

I get around 5000mi out of pedals and it doesn't seem to matter much
what their price was. Then the bearings are gone. Similar with bottom
brackets. I have always lived in or near hilly terrain which probably
doesn't help.

My preferences are big MTB pedals, both on the MTB and on the road bike.
No clips of any kind.


My Look Keo 2 Max pedals have done probably 50,000km. I think they are
about stuffed. $100 - $150 a pair. I ride plenty of hills and I don't
have little gears. I have inspected the internals once or twice. The
grease is always as new. IOW the seals have not let anything of note pass.

Maybe it is your mountain lions that kill pedals?


Too bad they are not big platform MTB pedals.

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JS
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Old March 20th 18, 01:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 3/19/2018 7:33 PM, James wrote:
On 20/03/18 07:43, Joerg wrote:

I get around 5000mi out of pedals and it doesn't seem to
matter much what their price was. Then the bearings are
gone. Similar with bottom brackets. I have always lived in
or near hilly terrain which probably doesn't help.

My preferences are big MTB pedals, both on the MTB and on
the road bike. No clips of any kind.


My Look Keo 2 Max pedals have done probably 50,000km. I
think they are about stuffed. $100 - $150 a pair. I ride
plenty of hills and I don't have little gears. I have
inspected the internals once or twice. The grease is always
as new. IOW the seals have not let anything of note pass.

Maybe it is your mountain lions that kill pedals?


Too bad they are not big platform MTB pedals.


Similar quality but larger bearings in platform pedals are a
standard product:

https://www.sram.com/truvativ/produc...apwi1egi9g4z71

Hey Joerg I can mail them to you in the morning!

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Old March 20th 18, 03:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default How long should pedals last?

On 2018-03-19 17:49, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/19/2018 7:33 PM, James wrote:
On 20/03/18 07:43, Joerg wrote:

I get around 5000mi out of pedals and it doesn't seem to
matter much what their price was. Then the bearings are
gone. Similar with bottom brackets. I have always lived in
or near hilly terrain which probably doesn't help.

My preferences are big MTB pedals, both on the MTB and on
the road bike. No clips of any kind.


My Look Keo 2 Max pedals have done probably 50,000km. I
think they are about stuffed. $100 - $150 a pair. I ride
plenty of hills and I don't have little gears. I have
inspected the internals once or twice. The grease is always
as new. IOW the seals have not let anything of note pass.

Maybe it is your mountain lions that kill pedals?


No, probably my habit of riding with very low cadence. It's from the old
days when I had to climb hills and only had 42/21. Now I have 42/32 but
often shift down too late or not at all on short uphill stretches.


Too bad they are not big platform MTB pedals.


Similar quality but larger bearings in platform pedals are a standard
product:

https://www.sram.com/truvativ/produc...apwi1egi9g4z71


Hey Joerg I can mail them to you in the morning!



They also make some that look less fancy but might have the same innards
for less:

https://www.sram.com/truvativ/produc...qwqy2jxpgnprvh

Ok, when the next ones go I'll try Truvativ. Looks like they belong to
SRAM and those guys seem to make better bearings than others.

Same happens with Shimano freehubs. Mine always develop serious bearing
play after the first 1000mi, then it remains somewhat constant and after
5000mi or so it suddenly gets worse and they are shot. One of my riding
buddies of almost same weight abd riding terrain has SRAM gear and there
it doesn't happen so quickly and that can't have anything to do with
cadence.

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Old March 20th 18, 04:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default How long should pedals last?

On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 5:33:17 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 20/03/18 07:43, Joerg wrote:

I get around 5000mi out of pedals and it doesn't seem to matter much
what their price was. Then the bearings are gone. Similar with bottom
brackets. I have always lived in or near hilly terrain which probably
doesn't help.

My preferences are big MTB pedals, both on the MTB and on the road bike..
No clips of any kind.


My Look Keo 2 Max pedals have done probably 50,000km. I think they are
about stuffed. $100 - $150 a pair. I ride plenty of hills and I don't
have little gears. I have inspected the internals once or twice. The
grease is always as new. IOW the seals have not let anything of note pass.

Maybe it is your mountain lions that kill pedals?


Too bad they are not big platform MTB pedals.


IIRC, the last pair of those I bought were on sale $59 USD. They're often on sale at Western Bikeworks for some reason.

These are only $49, but I'm not clear on what makes them the limited edition. https://www.performancebike.com/Prod...s%20&%20Frames

I actually bought a pair of those for the Synapse, and they work fine.


I did mung a pair of the original Keos -- the release mech on one pedal is all screwed up, and I haven't tried to fix it because I moved to the wider platform -- and it may have to do with excessive wear of a non-repairable plastic part. My first pair of Keo Max fell apart. The body pulled off the spindle. I got those warrantied by the shop and didn't have the problem again. It seemed to be a one-off problem.

My work-horse commuter pedals are SPDs. I ride them in rain or snow half the year, open the pedal, and the grease is pristine. The labyrinth seals are really effective. The release mechanism gets sloppy before the bearings -- at least on the el cheapo M525s.

-- Jay Beattie.

 




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