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the madness of Paris-Brest-Paris........
the ride reports of Paris-Brest-Paris
are starting to show up, read this shocking one http://zecher.org/clare/PBP2007RideReport.html |
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There are several ways to mentally approach brevets- mine is to think of them as a really long enjoyable ride. I look at the scenery, talk to people, enjoy each moment as best I can. Crappy weather really cuts into that strategy, though, and my mind set would not have been positive at this PBP and as such I really don't much mind having missed it. I am a hedonistic slacker and I don't feel much need to place myself in adverse circumstances for the sake of overcoming adversity. Rather than getting an ego boost out of overcoming such travails, I think "WTF were you thinking, Timothy, you idiot?" The other approach is, to my thinking, much more grim. The focus is not on the process but the goal and in many cases the goal is simply to beat the time cutoffs. There was some of that in this report. There is a tendency in human functioning that you follow what you focus on- if you're focused on the closing times I think that you will tend to cut it close and be really stressed out by it, which decreases your performance and brings you ever closer to the cutoff. The people whose goals are realistic but well in advance of the closing times of each control seem to have a happier ride. People whose goals are just unrealistic (e.g., finishing in 60 hours when they are really capable of 85 hours) also seemed to suffer a lot. In 2003 I saw way too many people- almost all of them American, whether by coincidence I don't know- who were way to wigged out and had turned just nasty towards others, even others who were trying to help. They were quickly left to stew in their own juices. Speaking even a little bit of French (even if just enough for the politenesses) helped a whole lot, but many Americans didn't seem to have bothered to learn those- even though you can learn enough French to seem polite in about 30 minutes. PBP is an interesting thing. If you read the memoirs of people who did them 50 years ago, there was greater adventure. There were only a few hundred riders, not 5000. The route was minimally marked and you had to pay close attention to the cue sheet. The checkpoints were a guy sitting at a table in a restaurant rather than full-service pit stops with beds, meals and mechanics. There were no drop bags- riders mailed their supplies to the checkpoints in advance which required careful planning to make sure that your supplies were in the right place at the right time. Over the years the event has gotten bigger, better supplied and vastly more popular. The miles are still as hard to ride, though. ----------------- Very good summary, as I've done some brevets myself. What people don't know, it isn't like most rides or races, where you suck some wheel most of the time, there is a lot of strategy involved. But in the end, it's how well you ride, but having the right supplies, clothes, lights, that will make you do that. Adverse weather seems to turn it into an Everest climb survival of the fittist type of an event. But in acceptable weather, it's for me the most enjoyable riding you can do. There is a clock to keep you honest, but unlike races, it isn't the whole game. What I've heard is that Colorado-Kansas 1200 is similar to what you said pbp use to be like. Some think it might be too lonely, where you only might end up riding with 4 riders of similar ability. |
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The recumbent rider who went off the road may have been uk.rec.cycling's own Dave Larrington. He's fine now with no lasting injuries, although he was actually claiming to be the Mayor of Mortagne when they took him to hospital (sleep deprivation/caffeine overdose). His bike and other bits have also been recovered and taken back to England. ---------------- Rumors are rampant on those things, it's inevitably "I think he/she died." I use to always discount the body counts I heard, until last year someone actually did get killed (hit by a car) on a ride I was on. When you are in near death yourself, it doesn't take much of an imagination to think people are all dying around you. |
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LOL! In 2003, with the excellent fair weather, lots of people slept by the side of the road, in city parks, etc. Most of them had "space" blankets and it looked like UFOs had been dumping bodies out of the hatch all over western France. It was really kind of hilarious (after riding 450 km in 24 hours, one is either easily amused or semi-comatose). In 2007 I doubt that people were voluntarily sleeping outside. --------------- I think that may have led to many of the DNF's, the inability to sleep on the side of the road. Of the 9 I knew who went to this pbp, only 4 finished. Two of them, were hard as nails, did a 400 that I DNF'd in that were in conditions that I can only describe as a night long hurricane, with water up to the hubs for half of the 400 (I got hypothermia). I'll be interested to see what happened to them, when I hear from them (they didn't even make it to Brest). But I'm guessing there wasn't even enough hotel rooms for all of those people, so maybe if you couldn't get a dry place to sleep, you just quit. |
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The first (US) American back to Paris this year was Jan Heine, publisher of Bicycle Quarterly, on a 1973 Alex Singer with 700 x 30 tires, a 6 speed freewheel, "compact" crank gearing, generator lights and a handlebar bag. He rode the 1200 km in 50 hours. Criminy. ---------- That is unbelievable. That was one of my best changes, was using a wider tire. I could only go to a 28, with bikes I have, but I see a lot of people still using 23's. You need all the shock absorbing you can get, and at night they give you more confidence. On your doing a previous 1200, before pbp, maybe people think they only have one 1200 in them. And as you know when you do those pbp's, there's a lot hype that goes on about that. RUSA, sent a book filled with ride reports from your 2003 pbp, that really tell you what you're getting into. It was enough to keep me away. One report related that the day after, everyone swells up, even to the point where you can't recognize people because of their bloated facial features, couldn't fit into shoes etc. Did that happen to you? |
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Crescentius Vespasianus wrote: the ride reports of Paris-Brest-Paris are starting to show up, read this shocking one http://zecher.org/clare/PBP2007RideReport.html My goodness. Well, the condition were horrible and it was her first PBP, so that explains a lot. There were 5000+ starters and 1800+ abandons, something like three times the normal rate. The organizers estimated that this was the worst weather for PBP in 50 years. In 2003 we enjoyed ideal weather- sunny skies with high temps in the mid to upper 70s and nights in the upper 50s to lower 60s (Fahrenheit, of course- I can't think in Centigrade). Thankfully the deadly heat wave that had killed thousands in France had ended literally the night before PBP started. The ride ended up being very low stress- relatively speaking- as a result (too bad I didn't finish due to knee problems). PBP always has stories that are- in retrospect- amusing. Hallucinations are de rigeur. In 2003 a recumbent rider was so sleep deprived that he got lost in one of the checkpoint parking lots and kept circling the lot until some of the officials caught him and made him get some sleep. My friend Tim hallucinated alligators in the ditches along the road. Clare's story about Todd breaking into some French farmer's barn, locking his bike inside the barn and then walking away into town is right up there. The best story I have heard is the guy who fell asleep on the side of the road, was picked up by an ambulance and driven back to Paris where he finally woke up, and then had a friend drive him back to his bike so that he could finish the ride. |
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On Aug 31, 9:49 am, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article , Crescentius Vespasianus wrote: the ride reports of Paris-Brest-Paris are starting to show up, read this shocking one http://zecher.org/clare/PBP2007RideReport.html My goodness. Well, the condition were horrible and it was her first PBP, so that explains a lot. There were 5000+ starters and 1800+ abandons, something like three times the normal rate. The organizers estimated that this was the worst weather for PBP in 50 years. In 2003 we enjoyed ideal weather- sunny skies with high temps in the mid to upper 70s and nights in the upper 50s to lower 60s (Fahrenheit, of course- I can't think in Centigrade). Thankfully the deadly heat wave that had killed thousands in France had ended literally the night before PBP started. The ride ended up being very low stress- relatively speaking- as a result (too bad I didn't finish due to knee problems). PBP always has stories that are- in retrospect- amusing. Hallucinations are de rigeur. In 2003 a recumbent rider was so sleep deprived that he got lost in one of the checkpoint parking lots and kept circling the lot until some of the officials caught him and made him get some sleep. My friend Tim hallucinated alligators in the ditches along the road. Clare's story about Todd breaking into some French farmer's barn, locking his bike inside the barn and then walking away into town is right up there. The best story I have heard is the guy who fell asleep on the side of the road, was picked up by an ambulance and driven back to Paris where he finally woke up, and then had a friend drive him back to his bike so that he could finish the ride. Do they do drug testing? If not, I could imagine any number of ways to avoid falling asleep, or severe muscle pain, or exhaustion.-- Jay Beattie. |
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Crescentius Vespasianus wrote: the ride reports of Paris-Brest-Paris are starting to show up, read this shocking one http://zecher.org/clare/PBP2007RideReport.html A total whine-fest. I'm no iron-man, and quit when she got nauseous and could not eat. -- Michael Press |
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On Aug 31, 10:25 am, Michael Press wrote:
In article , Crescentius Vespasianus wrote: the ride reports of Paris-Brest-Paris are starting to show up, read this shocking one http://zecher.org/clare/PBP2007RideReport.html A total whine-fest. I'm no iron-man, and quit when she got nauseous and could not eat. -- Michael Press That Michael Press...what a humanitarian. A real empath, him. |
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.com , Hank Wirtz wrote: On Aug 31, 10:25 am, Michael Press wrote: In article , Crescentius Vespasianus wrote: the ride reports of Paris-Brest-Paris are starting to show up, read this shocking one http://zecher.org/clare/PBP2007RideReport.html A total whine-fest. I'm no iron-man, and quit when she got nauseous and could not eat. That Michael Press...what a humanitarian. A real empath, him. You must have been empathizing nineteen to the dozen when you go to this. "Little did I know Mother Nature would pick this day to present me with my monthly bill, no wonder I was nauseous! I guess it was a good thing we were rain soaked." -- Michael Press |
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