The relative unimportance that speeding plays in road accidents

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 18:47:02 UTC, wrote:

Because he has nothing useful to say.
You might as well say everyone born in Liverpool is a thief and a dole scrounger.

He is a thief, but not a dolehead.
Give him his due.

https://www.facebook.com/simon.mason...4170256714806/

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:23:33 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The Grangemouth one used to have a big flame, but I haven't seen it recently. I heard somewhere once that when they started using propane for cars (LPG) that it was essentially free to produce, because it was otherwise burnt off! And that they didn't use enough for cars to use it all up.

OIL RIGS - METHANE
OIL REFINERIES - METHANE/ETHANE/PROPANE/ETHENE/ETHYNE
CHEMICAL PLANTS - ANY FLAMMABLE GAS

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:33:18 UTC, wrote:
ads are for cars' attitude or believe in that mythical being 'Road Tax'.

Me neither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHV9hvkBz6E

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:51:30 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:33:18 UTC, wrote:
ads are for cars' attitude or believe in that mythical being 'Road Tax'.

Me neither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHV9hvkBz6E

I've never seen such a slow driver. There's plenty room for two cars and a bicycle across that road.

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:33:17 -0000, wrote:

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 6:37:45 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 11/12/2016 18:07, JNugent wrote:
On 11/12/2016 16:30, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 12:55:35 -0000, Bod wrote:

Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html



It's only an eye opener to ****wits like the IAM.

Somewhat to my surprise, I find myself in broad agreement with more than
one poster on that last point.

So more training and inspection of that training would give improvements
in road safety.

I think the way to improve road safety is to change social attitudes.

You cannot do that.

When I drive I have no problem leaving cyclists enough room or giving way to pedestrians at junctions.
I am no more highly trained than any other driver.
I suppose the difference is I don't have this 'The roads are for cars' attitude or believe in that mythical being 'Road Tax'.

I'm polite and courteous, same as I am when say walking through a door to a supermarket and holding it open (ok most are electric nowadays but you get the idea). But I certainly don't leave ridiculous safety margins like some drivers. I don't wait at a red light if I can see the pedestrians have all gone.

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On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 8:02:48 PM UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:51:30 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:33:18 UTC, wrote:
ads are for cars' attitude or believe in that mythical being 'Road Tax'.

Me neither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHV9hvkBz6E

I've never seen such a slow driver. There's plenty room for two cars and a bicycle across that road.


Not according to this newsgroup's pet troll Judith.
Apparently 'one lane, one vehicle' is the rule.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 20:11:35 -0000, wrote:

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 8:02:48 PM UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:51:30 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:33:18 UTC, wrote:
ads are for cars' attitude or believe in that mythical being 'Road Tax'.

Me neither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHV9hvkBz6E

I've never seen such a slow driver. There's plenty room for two cars and a bicycle across that road.


Not according to this newsgroup's pet troll Judith.
Apparently 'one lane, one vehicle' is the rule.

Judith?! She's the last person I'd consider a safety freak.

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On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 8:04:17 PM UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:33:17 -0000, wrote:

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 6:37:45 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 11/12/2016 18:07, JNugent wrote:
On 11/12/2016 16:30, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 12:55:35 -0000, Bod wrote:

Unexpected findings emerged, not least the relative unimportance that
speeding plays in road accidents that kill six people each day in the
UK, leave 68 others seriously hurt and 535 with less serious injuries.

"It has been an eye-opener," says project manager Neil Greig, of the
IAM. "Not just in terms of what causes an accident but in terms of
dispelling some of the popular myths. For instance, if you look at
Government campaigns they seem to say that speed is the number one
problem. But illegal speeding – when drivers exceed the posted limit –
accounts for only 13.9 per cent of fatal accidents. A bigger cause [15.9
per cent] is going too fast for the conditions – entering a bend too
quickly, for instance – when you might well be under the actual speed
limit."

But the biggest cause of road accidents in the UK today? The statistics
are quite clear on this and it's "driver error or reaction". It's listed
by police as a factor in more than 65 per cent of fatal crashes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ts-happen.html



It's only an eye opener to ****wits like the IAM.

Somewhat to my surprise, I find myself in broad agreement with more than
one poster on that last point.

So more training and inspection of that training would give improvements
in road safety.

I think the way to improve road safety is to change social attitudes.

You cannot do that.


The Nixon administration started 'The war on drugs' to disenfranchise the blacks and hispanics because they, incorrectly, believed blacks and hispanics smoked more weed than whites.
Nixon hoped this would suppress the Democratic voters.

It worked for a while and now our blunderment has got the electorate thinking along the same lines.

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 8:18:13 PM UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 20:11:35 -0000, wrote:

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 8:02:48 PM UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:51:30 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:33:18 UTC, wrote:
ads are for cars' attitude or believe in that mythical being 'Road Tax'.

Me neither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHV9hvkBz6E

I've never seen such a slow driver. There's plenty room for two cars and a bicycle across that road.


Not according to this newsgroup's pet troll Judith.
Apparently 'one lane, one vehicle' is the rule.

Judith?! She's the last person I'd consider a safety freak.

He or She or It is only interested on Trolling.
Nevertheless It has claimed, and others have agreed, the lanes ore to only be used by one vehicle at a time.
McKev the impoverished lorry driver said the same thing if you want to check the archive.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 20:33:05 -0000, wrote:

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 8:18:13 PM UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 20:11:35 -0000, wrote:

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 8:02:48 PM UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:51:30 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:33:18 UTC, wrote:
ads are for cars' attitude or believe in that mythical being 'Road Tax'.

Me neither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHV9hvkBz6E

I've never seen such a slow driver. There's plenty room for two cars and a bicycle across that road.


Not according to this newsgroup's pet troll Judith.
Apparently 'one lane, one vehicle' is the rule.

Judith?! She's the last person I'd consider a safety freak.

He or She or It is only interested on Trolling.
Nevertheless It has claimed, and others have agreed, the lanes ore to only be used by one vehicle at a time.
McKev the impoverished lorry driver said the same thing if you want to check the archive.

Bicycles are not a vehicle.

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