Driver on drugs who mowed down group of cyclists while on wrong sideof road is jailed - LONG

On 31/08/2020 18:16, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 16:55:08 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 06:31, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:34:58 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:51, JNugent wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:12, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 18:23:24 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/08/2020 16:22, Mike Collins wrote:

[ ... ]

... Why do you believe it is up to you to decide which
harmless recreational drugs adults can use?

It isn't.

It's up to Parliament.

And Parliament has banned the use of cannabis as well as any
illegal "harmless recreational drugs" that exist.

Illegal drugs are banned by law, what a revelation.

Only to people who are as stupid (or alternatively, as disingenuous)
as you are.

It is necessary to point out to very stupid people - who try to
claim that cannabis is "harmless" - that there is a body of
scientific evidence to the contrary.

At this stage, I'll go with the scientists rather than with you
druggies.

You drive, which scientist show is dangerous (mostly to others). Why do
you do it?

If Tobacco was discovered today, would it be legal? It is probably the most dangerous drug ever but because it is legal Nugent is happy for people to use it.

It is literally impossible for you to be more wrong than you are there.

Tobacco should be classed as the dangerous and addictive drug that it
actually is and its possession, trading and use should be made illegal.
Inflicting it on others should be dealt with as an aggravated form of
the offence.

How about sugar?

Are you going to go through all the world's staple foodstuffs trying to
prove that banning them and legalising your cannabis would be a sensible
move?

On Monday, 31 August 2020 16:55:50 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 07:37, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 20:45:39 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

We are all familiar with The Ten Commandments. None of them become
irrelevant on the basis that "Moses did it too".

Some of us stopped believing in Fairy Tales when we became adults.
I assume you do not eat shellfish.

Why does it not surprise me that you don't believe in "Thou shalt not
steal"?

Book of Leviticus.
Anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.

Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving
for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and
whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwVg3eViGWc&t=104s

On 31/08/2020 18:07, TMS320 wrote:
On 31/08/2020 16:57, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 07:37, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 20:45:39 UTC+1, JNugentÂ* wrote:

We are all familiar with The Ten Commandments. None of them become
irrelevant on the basis that "Moses did it too".

Some of us stopped believing in Fairy Tales when we became adults. I
assume you do not eat shellfish.

Why does it not surprise me that you don't believe in "Thou shalt not
steal"?

The idea was to get people to believe that the instruction came from a
sky fairy and that their mortal behaviour determined whether they would
go to heaven or hell. Perhaps you still think this is how things work?

None of that attempt at diversion matters.

It seems that you and Collins "think" that it's acceptable to steal (or
even commit murder).

If you didn't, you'd have to show a degree of acceptance of, and
deference to, some relevant moral code or other, which would necessarily
be thousands of years old.

On 31/08/2020 17:31, TMS320 wrote:

On 31/08/2020 14:47, Mike Collins wrote:

Nugents 2nd law of motion. If a pedestrian walks into the road in
front of a motor vehicle it is the Pedestrians fault. If a
pedestrian walks into the road in front of a pedal cycle it is the
Cyclists fault.
2a.
~ If a driver uses the horn, it means "sorry to worry you but you are
putting your life in danger and I am approaching rather fast".

The majority of times it is used, it seems to convey the message: "I'm
outside with the engine running and I'm fed up waiting".

If it were up to me, I'd ban the fitting of horns to motor vehicles. If
there's a danger of collision, the driver or rider should *stop*.

~ If a cyclist calls "hello" it means "gerrouta way you ****ing moron".

Are cyclists capable of conversing in higher terms? It seems that having
a saddle between the legs deactivates much of the brain.

On Monday, 31 August 2020 18:22:34 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 18:16, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 16:55:08 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 06:31, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:34:58 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:51, JNugent wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:12, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 18:23:24 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/08/2020 16:22, Mike Collins wrote:

[ ... ]

... Why do you believe it is up to you to decide which
harmless recreational drugs adults can use?

It isn't.

It's up to Parliament.

And Parliament has banned the use of cannabis as well as any
illegal "harmless recreational drugs" that exist.

Illegal drugs are banned by law, what a revelation.

Only to people who are as stupid (or alternatively, as disingenuous)
as you are.

It is necessary to point out to very stupid people - who try to
claim that cannabis is "harmless" - that there is a body of
scientific evidence to the contrary.

At this stage, I'll go with the scientists rather than with you
druggies.

You drive, which scientist show is dangerous (mostly to others). Why do
you do it?

If Tobacco was discovered today, would it be legal? It is probably the most dangerous drug ever but because it is legal Nugent is happy for people to use it.

It is literally impossible for you to be more wrong than you are there.

Tobacco should be classed as the dangerous and addictive drug that it
actually is and its possession, trading and use should be made illegal.
Inflicting it on others should be dealt with as an aggravated form of
the offence.

How about sugar?

Are you going to go through all the world's staple foodstuffs trying to
prove that banning them and legalising your cannabis would be a sensible
move?

I have been diabetic for 8 years and have managed to live without sugar. Sugar is not necessary to life and causes more deaths that cannabis.

On Monday, 31 August 2020 18:27:07 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 18:07, TMS320 wrote:
On 31/08/2020 16:57, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 07:37, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 20:45:39 UTC+1, JNugentÂ* wrote:

We are all familiar with The Ten Commandments. None of them become
irrelevant on the basis that "Moses did it too".

Some of us stopped believing in Fairy Tales when we became adults. I
assume you do not eat shellfish.

Why does it not surprise me that you don't believe in "Thou shalt not
steal"?

The idea was to get people to believe that the instruction came from a
sky fairy and that their mortal behaviour determined whether they would
go to heaven or hell. Perhaps you still think this is how things work?

None of that attempt at diversion matters.

It seems that you and Collins "think" that it's acceptable to steal (or
even commit murder).


I am not from Liverpool.

On 31/08/2020 18:31, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 18:22:34 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 18:16, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 16:55:08 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 06:31, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:34:58 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:51, JNugent wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:12, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 18:23:24 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/08/2020 16:22, Mike Collins wrote:

[ ... ]

... Why do you believe it is up to you to decide which
harmless recreational drugs adults can use?

It isn't.

It's up to Parliament.

And Parliament has banned the use of cannabis as well as any
illegal "harmless recreational drugs" that exist.

Illegal drugs are banned by law, what a revelation.

Only to people who are as stupid (or alternatively, as disingenuous)
as you are.

It is necessary to point out to very stupid people - who try to
claim that cannabis is "harmless" - that there is a body of
scientific evidence to the contrary.

At this stage, I'll go with the scientists rather than with you
druggies.

You drive, which scientist show is dangerous (mostly to others). Why do
you do it?

If Tobacco was discovered today, would it be legal? It is probably the most dangerous drug ever but because it is legal Nugent is happy for people to use it.

It is literally impossible for you to be more wrong than you are there.

Tobacco should be classed as the dangerous and addictive drug that it
actually is and its possession, trading and use should be made illegal.
Inflicting it on others should be dealt with as an aggravated form of
the offence.

How about sugar?

Are you going to go through all the world's staple foodstuffs trying to
prove that banning them and legalising your cannabis would be a sensible
move?

I have been diabetic

I am sorry to hear that. I am aware of how debilitating it can be.

for 8 years and have managed to live without sugar. Sugar is not necessary to life and causes more deaths that cannabis.

You mean white, refined, sugar (and maybe one or two other,
industrialised forms of it)?

Yes, man can live without that. But not without sugar in all its forms.

See? It is as I predicted. You really are trying to "prove" that food
should be banned and cannabis decriminalised.

Self-serving or what?

On 31/08/2020 18:25, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 16:55:50 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 07:37, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 20:45:39 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

We are all familiar with The Ten Commandments. None of them become
irrelevant on the basis that "Moses did it too".

Some of us stopped believing in Fairy Tales when we became adults.
I assume you do not eat shellfish.

Why does it not surprise me that you don't believe in "Thou shalt not
steal"?

Book of Leviticus.
Anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.

Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving
for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and
whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwVg3eViGWc&t=104s

Which of the Ten Commandments contains that?

On Monday, 31 August 2020 18:43:46 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 18:25, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 16:55:50 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 07:37, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 20:45:39 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

We are all familiar with The Ten Commandments. None of them become
irrelevant on the basis that "Moses did it too".

Some of us stopped believing in Fairy Tales when we became adults.
I assume you do not eat shellfish.

Why does it not surprise me that you don't believe in "Thou shalt not
steal"?

Book of Leviticus.
Anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.

Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving
for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and
whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwVg3eViGWc&t=104s

Which of the Ten Commandments contains that?

The 11th

Genesis 1:22 Be fruitful and Multiply was added in the 15th Century because the government needed more soldiers.

On Monday, 31 August 2020 18:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 18:31, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 18:22:34 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 18:16, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 31 August 2020 16:55:08 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 31/08/2020 06:31, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:34:58 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:51, JNugent wrote:
On 30/08/2020 20:12, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 30 August 2020 18:23:24 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/08/2020 16:22, Mike Collins wrote:

[ ... ]

... Why do you believe it is up to you to decide which
harmless recreational drugs adults can use?

It isn't.

It's up to Parliament.

And Parliament has banned the use of cannabis as well as any
illegal "harmless recreational drugs" that exist.

Illegal drugs are banned by law, what a revelation.

Only to people who are as stupid (or alternatively, as disingenuous)
as you are.

It is necessary to point out to very stupid people - who try to
claim that cannabis is "harmless" - that there is a body of
scientific evidence to the contrary.

At this stage, I'll go with the scientists rather than with you
druggies.

You drive, which scientist show is dangerous (mostly to others). Why do
you do it?

If Tobacco was discovered today, would it be legal? It is probably the most dangerous drug ever but because it is legal Nugent is happy for people to use it.

It is literally impossible for you to be more wrong than you are there.

Tobacco should be classed as the dangerous and addictive drug that it
actually is and its possession, trading and use should be made illegal.
Inflicting it on others should be dealt with as an aggravated form of
the offence.

How about sugar?

Are you going to go through all the world's staple foodstuffs trying to
prove that banning them and legalising your cannabis would be a sensible
move?

I have been diabetic

I am sorry to hear that. I am aware of how debilitating it can be.

Not debilitating at all, cycling helps keep the weight off.


for 8 years and have managed to live without sugar. Sugar is not necessary to life and causes more deaths that cannabis.

You mean white, refined, sugar (and maybe one or two other,
industrialised forms of it)?

White bread, white rice, any refined food can be lived without. Thank you for proving my point once again.


Yes, man can live without that. But not without sugar in all its forms.

See? It is as I predicted. You really are trying to "prove" that food
should be banned and cannabis decriminalised.

Self-serving or what?

I have already proved that legal cannabis is beneficial to individuals and society. Once again I thank you for your support.