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Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old
"Of course he wasn't - the police and prosecution agreed that he'd
done nothing wrong - how, and why, should they prosecute someone for an offence that their own evidence shows was no committed? " The police claimed Harris did nothing wrong before they discovered he was driving an unroad worthy car. The police were severely criticised for ****ing this case up and allowing a killer driver to walk free. Read the reports, in particular the magistrate's comments and the matter's raised by the dead cyclists' MP. |
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Ace wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:52:34 GMT, Martin Dann wrote: Robert Harris was fined 180UKP (approx 425AU$) for killing four cyclists in north Wales recently. Oh what rubbish. It's been rehashed ad infinitum here (on URC at least); the facts are that he was not found to be at fault in the deaths of the cyclists - the fine was for something completely unrelated. Even though he admitted fault. Just goes to reinforce the point though about penalties for killing on the road. Tony |
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Ace wrote:
Of course he wasn't - the police and prosecution agreed that he'd done nothing wrong - how, and why, should they prosecute someone for an offence that their own evidence shows was no committed? A situation that the coroner expressed incredulity at and that has subsequently been the subject of questions in the House of Commons. Of course it had nothing to do with the police, who were heavily criticised in the coroner's report and the evidence they handed over to the Crown Prosecution Service, having exonerated the driver within hours of the crash and before any investigations had been completed. The debate has been whether he should have known it was icy and whether scraping ice off his car for five minutes before setting out was a sufficient hint and whether he had any chance with black ice anyway. Two things have come out of the inquest debate in the House of Commons that were not reported in the media. The police accident investigation expert said in Court "It would have to be accepted that he failed to observe the ambient temperature display in his vehicle. He set off on his journey having scraped ice off the window of his car, and subsequently drove through countryside where visible frost lay.... In my opinion, there was sufficient grip available to the driver to control the vehicle. Had he driven according to the prevailing road conditions, as had the vast majority of motorists before this collision, then I am of the opinion this collision could have been avoided." Tony |
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Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old
Tony Raven wrote:
Half a Brain wrote: I would say that car drivers driving through a red light is a very rare occurrence, but I think we all know that cyclists flout the rules of the road with gay abandon - sometimes with tragic results. ROFLMAO. Now I know you are a bona fide Troll. When the UK motoring organisation the RAC did checks they found that one in ten drivers crossed more than THREE SECONDS after the lights had turned to red and one in five bus drivers. Tranport for London also found fifty percent more cyclists were killed on green by motorists running red lights than were killed by running red lights themselves. So while it is no excuse for running red lights on a bicycle, it is behaviour by no means unique to cyclists nor much of risk to anyone other than the cyclists themselves. Heck, even in the "the hood" where many of the drivers are unlicensed (but armed) and many of the vehicles and/or their registrations stolen, running red lights (other than "late yellow") is very rare. These are the same drivers that drive 20-40 mph over the speed limit, pass to the right in the bus/bike/parking lane, follow at less than 1/2 vehicle length, etc. The same is true of the MFFY drivers in the more affluent areas of Chicagoland, who are very aggressive about violating the right-of-way of others in their luxury automobiles and SUV's. Is running red lights actually something that the British are worse about than the USians? I have run quite a few red lights after stopping on a bicycle in the Chicagoland area. However, this is legal since the lights are "non-functional" for a bicycle due to the loop detectors being set too insensitively. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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