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Old October 22nd 12, 06:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Tube patch - rubber cement question and warning.

Each of my bikes has a little patch kit, containing a few patches,
scraper, and a little container of rubber cement. One bike had a slow
leak so I take out the tube, find the hole, scrape it, and prepare to
apply the rubber cement, but the little container of cement is empty.
I used it once, closed it, and it looks like there is cement in it
but, no there isn't.

I pull the patch kit out from another bike, and the rubber cement is
also empty. Very weird. Both little containers look full, but each has
been used once and there is no rubber cement left.

Apparently rubber cement evaporates after you open the containe even
if you close it tightly. And indeed, here is a comment from Amazon on
using something called Bestine:

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Test-Best.../dp/B000HF6UR0

5.0 out of 5 stars SOLVENT FOR RUBBER CEMENT November 10, 2011
By Victor J. Tennery
Amazon Verified PurchaseIN MY WORK I USE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF
RUBBER CEMENT - CONSTANT PROBLEM IS EVAPORATION OF THE CARRIER IN THE
LITTLE BOTTLES - RATHER THAN DISCARD, YOU CAN SALVAGE USING THIS
THINNER - CAN NOT BUY THIS ITEM LOCALLY - THIS SHIPMENT ARRIVED
PROMPLY AND WAS IN PERFECT CONDITION.

My neighbor had some rubber cement and I borrowed it and the patch
worked fine, but now I need to get more patch kits. I think they do
have some that don't use rubber cement but I don't know if those are
as good. At least now I'm warned - I've been riding with patch kits
that would be useless if needed.
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Old October 24th 12, 04:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Tube patch - rubber cement question and warning.

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:43:07 +0100, Phil W Lee
wrote:

dgk considered Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:12:57 -0400 the
perfect time to write:

Each of my bikes has a little patch kit, containing a few patches,
scraper, and a little container of rubber cement. One bike had a slow
leak so I take out the tube, find the hole, scrape it, and prepare to
apply the rubber cement, but the little container of cement is empty.
I used it once, closed it, and it looks like there is cement in it
but, no there isn't.

I pull the patch kit out from another bike, and the rubber cement is
also empty. Very weird. Both little containers look full, but each has
been used once and there is no rubber cement left.

Apparently rubber cement evaporates after you open the containe even
if you close it tightly. And indeed, here is a comment from Amazon on
using something called Bestine:

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Test-Best.../dp/B000HF6UR0

5.0 out of 5 stars SOLVENT FOR RUBBER CEMENT November 10, 2011
By Victor J. Tennery
Amazon Verified PurchaseIN MY WORK I USE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF
RUBBER CEMENT - CONSTANT PROBLEM IS EVAPORATION OF THE CARRIER IN THE
LITTLE BOTTLES - RATHER THAN DISCARD, YOU CAN SALVAGE USING THIS
THINNER - CAN NOT BUY THIS ITEM LOCALLY - THIS SHIPMENT ARRIVED
PROMPLY AND WAS IN PERFECT CONDITION.

My neighbor had some rubber cement and I borrowed it and the patch
worked fine, but now I need to get more patch kits. I think they do
have some that don't use rubber cement but I don't know if those are
as good. At least now I'm warned - I've been riding with patch kits
that would be useless if needed.


This is exactly the reason that if I have to open a tube of rubber
solution on the road, I then swap it with a new one, and use the
remainder at home (where I do most patching, as I also carry spare
tubes, and encourage my children to as well).
That way, if you get a 2nd flat on the road, the tube of rubber
solution is a good new one (and the easiest way to tell if it is good
is by weight).


I can't seem to find replacement rubber cement for a patch kit. And
yes, I do carry a spare tube. But I was pretty surprised to see that
both patch kits were useless.
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Old November 12th 12, 01:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Tube patch - rubber cement question and warning.

On Monday, October 22, 2012 10:12:58 AM UTC-7, dgk wrote:
Each of my bikes has a little patch kit, containing a few patches,

scraper, and a little container of rubber cement. One bike had a slow

leak so I take out the tube, find the hole, scrape it, and prepare to

apply the rubber cement, but the little container of cement is empty.

I used it once, closed it, and it looks like there is cement in it

but, no there isn't.



I pull the patch kit out from another bike, and the rubber cement is

also empty. Very weird. Both little containers look full, but each has

been used once and there is no rubber cement left.



Apparently rubber cement evaporates after you open the containe even

if you close it tightly. And indeed, here is a comment from Amazon on

using something called Bestine:



http://www.amazon.com/Best-Test-Best.../dp/B000HF6UR0



5.0 out of 5 stars SOLVENT FOR RUBBER CEMENT November 10, 2011

By Victor J. Tennery

Amazon Verified PurchaseIN MY WORK I USE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF

RUBBER CEMENT - CONSTANT PROBLEM IS EVAPORATION OF THE CARRIER IN THE

LITTLE BOTTLES - RATHER THAN DISCARD, YOU CAN SALVAGE USING THIS

THINNER - CAN NOT BUY THIS ITEM LOCALLY - THIS SHIPMENT ARRIVED

PROMPLY AND WAS IN PERFECT CONDITION.



My neighbor had some rubber cement and I borrowed it and the patch

worked fine, but now I need to get more patch kits. I think they do

have some that don't use rubber cement but I don't know if those are

as good. At least now I'm warned - I've been riding with patch kits

that would be useless if needed.


Indeed, the volatile carrier for the rubber cement evaporates after the tube is opened and then left unused for a very long time. That is why you always carry an unused patch kit all the time. You put the one you used most recently in your garage tool kit and you can buy a LARGE tube of Rema rubber cement from your local bike shop. It too will evaporate but the tube is so large it takes years and years to become useless.

There are glueless patches but they do not work well. You're usually lucky if you can patch a tube so that you have a lead slow enough to get home before using your last CO2. If you have a full size frame pump it helps but as I said, glueless patches simply aren't any good.

What's more - tubes used to be nicely made and fairly smooth. Now their are mold seams everywhere so you have to be ultra-careful to really sand the area of the patch very well. Otherwise it's slow leak city.
 




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