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Old September 17th 20, 01:45 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized. Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into the garage. One of these: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/ I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive, but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine. Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large, which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph. I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is good.

-- Jay Beattie.









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Old September 17th 20, 07:14 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Op donderdag 17 september 2020 om 02:45:42 UTC+2 schreef jbeattie:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized. Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into the garage. One of these: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/ I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive, but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine. Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large, which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph. I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is good.

-- Jay Beattie.



Ouch, a dangerous purchase ;-). Have fun with the E bike.

Lou
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Old September 18th 20, 12:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/16/2020 5:45 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized. Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into the garage. One of these: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/ I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive, but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine. Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large, which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph. I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is good.

-- Jay Beattie.


Enjoy riding together! The Banks-Vernonia trail is a nice venue if you
need some sheltered "acclimatization" riding, but it's better on weekday
mornings. It gets rather crowded on weekends. Just don't use the
"turbo" setting on a busy trail!

That QR seatpost clamp puts you on a slippery slope, be careful. My
wife's ebike is so short I'd need a circus-clown-seatpost to ride it, so
I'm safe from the "dangers" that Lou mentions.

Mark J.


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Old September 18th 20, 01:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
On 9/16/2020 5:45 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized. Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into the garage.. One of these: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/ I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive, but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine. Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large, which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph. I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is good.

-- Jay Beattie.


Enjoy riding together! The Banks-Vernonia trail is a nice venue if you
need some sheltered "acclimatization" riding, but it's better on weekday
mornings. It gets rather crowded on weekends. Just don't use the
"turbo" setting on a busy trail!

That QR seatpost clamp puts you on a slippery slope, be careful. My
wife's ebike is so short I'd need a circus-clown-seatpost to ride it, so
I'm safe from the "dangers" that Lou mentions.


I was flying around on it last night. The dismount is troubling for my wife. I may see if I can exchange the bike for a step-through. My son is trying to get me to go with a dropper post, but I'm not sold on that, but I'll do some more experimenting to see if that could be a fix. I just don't want my wife getting her leg hung up swinging it over the saddle.

My poor wife was a spectacular racer back in the day and a great tandem motor, but she was hit with a neuro-muscular disorder and has wires in her brain to make her stand more upright (DBS for dystonia). She also broke a hip skiing, or it simply broke while skiing -- who knows. Anyway, she is still lean and mean and walks all over the place, but she's held together with screws and wires. The last thing I want is for her to get mugged by her bike. She's tired of hospitals, as is the rest of the family. Between all three of us, we probably have ten pounds of titanium parts.

-- Jay Beattie.









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Old September 18th 20, 03:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 5:45:42 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized. Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into the garage. One of these: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/ I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive, but it is a nice bike.


I checked out the link...nice looking machine. I am wondering, though, what the battery voltage is (36 or 48V?) and the motor wattage. It looks like it might be a Yamaha so that would make it 250 watts, yes?
Seems unlikely it could hit 28 mph. 600 watt, perhaps?



There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine. Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large, which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do worry about the size of the thing, though.


Man, I'm sorry to hear this...why do our bodies do this to us?



On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph. I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.


I think you said it's a "Type 3", I did not know they had types and I now have something to look up.
I like that it just has 3 power levels...simplicity. The BaFang kits give 9 levels of assist, I think.
Does the bike have a plain old no-pedal throttle, too? That would be nice.


In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is good.

-- Jay Beattie.


I'm seeing a lot of ebikes around here. (Santa Cruz) Lithium batteries have made all the difference.

Pureheart in Aptos
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Old September 18th 20, 08:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Op vrijdag 18 september 2020 om 02:31:59 UTC+2 schreef jbeattie:
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
On 9/16/2020 5:45 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized. Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into the garage. One of these: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/ I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive, but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine. Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large, which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph. I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is good.

-- Jay Beattie.


Enjoy riding together! The Banks-Vernonia trail is a nice venue if you
need some sheltered "acclimatization" riding, but it's better on weekday
mornings. It gets rather crowded on weekends. Just don't use the
"turbo" setting on a busy trail!

That QR seatpost clamp puts you on a slippery slope, be careful. My
wife's ebike is so short I'd need a circus-clown-seatpost to ride it, so
I'm safe from the "dangers" that Lou mentions.

I was flying around on it last night. The dismount is troubling for my wife. I may see if I can exchange the bike for a step-through. My son is trying to get me to go with a dropper post, but I'm not sold on that, but I'll do some more experimenting to see if that could be a fix. I just don't want my wife getting her leg hung up swinging it over the saddle.

My poor wife was a spectacular racer back in the day and a great tandem motor, but she was hit with a neuro-muscular disorder and has wires in her brain to make her stand more upright (DBS for dystonia). She also broke a hip skiing, or it simply broke while skiing -- who knows. Anyway, she is still lean and mean and walks all over the place, but she's held together with screws and wires. The last thing I want is for her to get mugged by her bike. She's tired of hospitals, as is the rest of the family. Between all three of us, we probably have ten pounds of titanium parts.

-- Jay Beattie.



That is too bad. Do your wife a favor and get her a step through frame. I think that would even for me the way to go when I'm ready for an utility E bike. This is a popular model around here at the moment:

https://www.gazelle.nl/ultimate-t10-...07%2C211%2C184

Lou
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Old September 18th 20, 10:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Lou Holtman wrote:
Op vrijdag 18 september 2020 om 02:31:59 UTC+2 schreef jbeattie:


On 9/16/2020 5:45 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized.
Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into
the garage. One of these:
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/
I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with
it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have
been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive,
but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to
update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want
the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine.
Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large,
which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB
makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing
is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that
affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over
the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is
sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do
worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph.
I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for
shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a
kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My
son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb
stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a
winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a
hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by
Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best
bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened
to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is
good.


I was flying around on it last night. The dismount is troubling for my
wife. I may see if I can exchange the bike for a step-through. My son
is trying to get me to go with a dropper post, but I'm not sold on
that, but I'll do some more experimenting to see if that could be a
fix. I just don't want my wife getting her leg hung up swinging it over
the saddle.

My poor wife was a spectacular racer back in the day and a great tandem
motor, but she was hit with a neuro-muscular disorder and has wires in
her brain to make her stand more upright (DBS for dystonia). She also
broke a hip skiing, or it simply broke while skiing -- who knows.
Anyway, she is still lean and mean and walks all over the place, but
she's held together with screws and wires. The last thing I want is for
her to get mugged by her bike. She's tired of hospitals, as is the rest
of the family. Between all three of us, we probably have ten pounds of
titanium parts.


IMHO, the more ebike riders are old, fat, or frail, the better for
Real_Cycling. So I should applaud the Turbo Vado choice. But sometimes, I
feel compassionate even for coastal lawyer wifes.

Who selected that ebike for her? If it was your son, ban him from giving
bike advice to old or handicapped people! Or at least have him pay for it.
That sloped diamond frame (L is standard with 175mm cranks) sounds wrong
for her size and dismounting issues.

That is too bad. Do your wife a favor and get her a step through frame. I
think that would even for me the way to go when I'm ready for an utility
E bike. This is a popular model around here at the moment:

https://www.gazelle.nl/ultimate-t10-...07%2C211%2C184


Agreed. (Interesting that the Turbo-Vado sports a longer front fender than
a Dutch brand.)

Or give in to AJ's Utopia propaganda, go feminine, extravagant, craft frame
style, and show battery pride instead of trying to "hide" the electron tank
in a blown-up downtube outline.
https://www.utopia-velo.de/en/pedelec/sprint-pedelec/

Here's the trick: If she is afraid of looking old because of a step-thru
geometry, ask her if this truly awful frame shape makes the model look old:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iwMAA...8HM/s-l800.jpg

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Old September 18th 20, 07:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/17/2020 5:31 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
On 9/16/2020 5:45 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized. Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into the garage. One of these: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/ I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive, but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine. Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large, which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph. I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is good.

-- Jay Beattie.


Enjoy riding together! The Banks-Vernonia trail is a nice venue if you
need some sheltered "acclimatization" riding, but it's better on weekday
mornings. It gets rather crowded on weekends. Just don't use the
"turbo" setting on a busy trail!

That QR seatpost clamp puts you on a slippery slope, be careful. My
wife's ebike is so short I'd need a circus-clown-seatpost to ride it, so
I'm safe from the "dangers" that Lou mentions.


I was flying around on it last night. The dismount is troubling for my wife. I may see if I can exchange the bike for a step-through. My son is trying to get me to go with a dropper post, but I'm not sold on that, but I'll do some more experimenting to see if that could be a fix. I just don't want my wife getting her leg hung up swinging it over the saddle.

My poor wife was a spectacular racer back in the day and a great tandem motor, but she was hit with a neuro-muscular disorder and has wires in her brain to make her stand more upright (DBS for dystonia). She also broke a hip skiing, or it simply broke while skiing -- who knows. Anyway, she is still lean and mean and walks all over the place, but she's held together with screws and wires. The last thing I want is for her to get mugged by her bike. She's tired of hospitals, as is the rest of the family. Between all three of us, we probably have ten pounds of titanium parts.

-- Jay Beattie.


Yeah, my wife's is a step-through, an older design Trek "Verve +". I
was thinking of start-stop practice when I mentioned the trail; it's
those low-speed crashes that really mess us up, as Phil & Paul used to
tell us.

After a while off the bike, my wife and I went for a local ride earlier
this year. She dumped it on the front lawn before we reached the
street; fortunately only her pride was damaged. Just rusty, and her
e-bike is quite heavy, so low speed maneuvers are an issue.

Sorry to hear about your wife's issues. Don't blame you for being tired
of hospitals. In another small-world coincidence, all that family
titanium may have been machined on CNC equipment that my brother used to
maintain at a medical/orthopedic supplier in Colorado. The building
tour was impressive.

Mark J.
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Old September 19th 20, 02:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 10:44:58 AM UTC+1, Sepp Ruf wrote:
Lou Holtman wrote:
Op vrijdag 18 september 2020 om 02:31:59 UTC+2 schreef jbeattie:
On 9/16/2020 5:45 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized.
Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into
the garage. One of these:
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/
I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with
it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have
been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive,
but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to
update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want
the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine.
Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large,
which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB
makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing
is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that
affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over
the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is
sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do
worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph.
I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for
shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a
kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My
son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb
stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a
winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a
hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by
Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best
bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened
to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is
good.
I was flying around on it last night. The dismount is troubling for my
wife. I may see if I can exchange the bike for a step-through. My son
is trying to get me to go with a dropper post, but I'm not sold on
that, but I'll do some more experimenting to see if that could be a
fix. I just don't want my wife getting her leg hung up swinging it over
the saddle.

My poor wife was a spectacular racer back in the day and a great tandem
motor, but she was hit with a neuro-muscular disorder and has wires in
her brain to make her stand more upright (DBS for dystonia). She also
broke a hip skiing, or it simply broke while skiing -- who knows.
Anyway, she is still lean and mean and walks all over the place, but
she's held together with screws and wires. The last thing I want is for
her to get mugged by her bike. She's tired of hospitals, as is the rest
of the family. Between all three of us, we probably have ten pounds of
titanium parts.

IMHO, the more ebike riders are old, fat, or frail, the better for
Real_Cycling. So I should applaud the Turbo Vado choice. But sometimes, I
feel compassionate even for coastal lawyer wifes.

Who selected that ebike for her? If it was your son, ban him from giving
bike advice to old or handicapped people! Or at least have him pay for it..
That sloped diamond frame (L is standard with 175mm cranks) sounds wrong
for her size and dismounting issues.
That is too bad. Do your wife a favor and get her a step through frame. I
think that would even for me the way to go when I'm ready for an utility
E bike. This is a popular model around here at the moment:

https://www.gazelle.nl/ultimate-t10-...07%2C211%2C184

Agreed. (Interesting that the Turbo-Vado sports a longer front fender than
a Dutch brand.)

Or give in to AJ's Utopia propaganda, go feminine, extravagant, craft frame
style, and show battery pride instead of trying to "hide" the electron tank
in a blown-up downtube outline.
https://www.utopia-velo.de/en/pedelec/sprint-pedelec/

Here's the trick: If she is afraid of looking old because of a step-thru
geometry, ask her if this truly awful frame shape makes the model look old:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iwMAA...8HM/s-l800.jpg


I wrote a long post identifying each of the problems of that bike that the two counterproductive Beatties (father and son) chose for the wife and mother*. I didn't send it because I saw no point in draining the glee from Jay's day, despite his and Krygowski's constant crap about my supposed clunker -- which has a frame lighter than their best road bikes. If they could afford a bike like mine, I'd have to join the end of the waiting list because they be muscling in rudely. Oh, wait, Jay spent near German baukast money for an entirely unsuitable bike for his wife... I'm starting to think these Americans aren't so much foolish as ignorant.

I'm sorry about Mrs Beattie's misfortune.

Andre Jute
There are low stopover bikes for a reason. European bikes have properly braced racks for a reason. Etc. Etc. Etc.

*I didn't think I would ever see a greater mismatch of a bicycle to its intended rider than the Paramount idiocy that the RBT xenophobes wished on me, described at
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicy...m/I18KpJSsCQAJ
but Jay's just taken the prize for that one.
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Old September 19th 20, 03:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/18/2020 8:51 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 10:44:58 AM UTC+1, Sepp Ruf wrote:
Lou Holtman wrote:
Op vrijdag 18 september 2020 om 02:31:59 UTC+2 schreef jbeattie:
On 9/16/2020 5:45 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I got my wife an eBike for her birthday via my son at Specialized.
Box arrived yesterday, and I about herniated myself getting it into
the garage. One of these:
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...o-vado-reivew/
I had no idea it was a Buycycling Editor's choice, but I'll go with
it. Being family, I got employee pricing -- otherwise it would have
been a harder choice. Even the bottom of the range is expensive,
but it is a nice bike.

There were some odd-ball assembly issues, and I still have to
update the firmware (which is like a huge thing because you want
the latest performance advantages!), but it went together fine.
Lots of bells (literally) and whistles.

My wife is 5'10" (or used to be), so my son sized her as a large,
which is fine for saddle to pedal distance, but the tire height/BB
makes the stand-over high, even with a sloping top-tube. The thing
is like a mini-motorcycle. She has some neuro/ortho conditions that
affect her mobility, but she seems to be fine swinging her leg over
the saddle and off the bike. She doesn't complain, which is
sometimes a problem. "Oh its fine [followed by catastrophe]." I do
worry about the size of the thing, though.

On max setting, the bike is super fast with a top speed of 28mph.
I'm going to throw on a QR seatpost clamp so I can use it for
shopping. You would need a truck to steal it, and it has a
kickstand and a really swanky little rack. The future is now! My
son is trying to get me interested in the mega-zillion dollar 22lb
stealth eBikes -- so I can keep up with him, but I would need a
winning lottery ticket, even at employee pricing.

In another small bicycle-world twist, my son tells me I'll need a
hitch rack tray that my wife can roll the bike onto -- made by
Yakima. So I walk down the street and ask my neighbor and best
bicycling buddy -- who is head of products for Yakima and happened
to be working in his yard, for a rack. Its on the way. Life is
good.
I was flying around on it last night. The dismount is troubling for my
wife. I may see if I can exchange the bike for a step-through. My son
is trying to get me to go with a dropper post, but I'm not sold on
that, but I'll do some more experimenting to see if that could be a
fix. I just don't want my wife getting her leg hung up swinging it over
the saddle.

My poor wife was a spectacular racer back in the day and a great tandem
motor, but she was hit with a neuro-muscular disorder and has wires in
her brain to make her stand more upright (DBS for dystonia). She also
broke a hip skiing, or it simply broke while skiing -- who knows.
Anyway, she is still lean and mean and walks all over the place, but
she's held together with screws and wires. The last thing I want is for
her to get mugged by her bike. She's tired of hospitals, as is the rest
of the family. Between all three of us, we probably have ten pounds of
titanium parts.

IMHO, the more ebike riders are old, fat, or frail, the better for
Real_Cycling. So I should applaud the Turbo Vado choice. But sometimes, I
feel compassionate even for coastal lawyer wifes.

Who selected that ebike for her? If it was your son, ban him from giving
bike advice to old or handicapped people! Or at least have him pay for it.
That sloped diamond frame (L is standard with 175mm cranks) sounds wrong
for her size and dismounting issues.
That is too bad. Do your wife a favor and get her a step through frame. I
think that would even for me the way to go when I'm ready for an utility
E bike. This is a popular model around here at the moment:

https://www.gazelle.nl/ultimate-t10-...07%2C211%2C184

Agreed. (Interesting that the Turbo-Vado sports a longer front fender than
a Dutch brand.)

Or give in to AJ's Utopia propaganda, go feminine, extravagant, craft frame
style, and show battery pride instead of trying to "hide" the electron tank
in a blown-up downtube outline.
https://www.utopia-velo.de/en/pedelec/sprint-pedelec/

Here's the trick: If she is afraid of looking old because of a step-thru
geometry, ask her if this truly awful frame shape makes the model look old:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iwMAA...8HM/s-l800.jpg


I wrote a long post identifying each of the problems of that bike that the two counterproductive Beatties (father and son) chose for the wife and mother*. I didn't send it because I saw no point in draining the glee from Jay's day, despite his and Krygowski's constant crap about my supposed clunker -- which has a frame lighter than their best road bikes. If they could afford a bike like mine, I'd have to join the end of the waiting list because they be muscling in rudely. Oh, wait, Jay spent near German baukast money for an entirely unsuitable bike for his wife... I'm starting to think these Americans aren't so much foolish as ignorant.

I'm sorry about Mrs Beattie's misfortune.

Andre Jute
There are low stopover bikes for a reason. European bikes have properly braced racks for a reason. Etc. Etc. Etc.

*I didn't think I would ever see a greater mismatch of a bicycle to its intended rider than the Paramount idiocy that the RBT xenophobes wished on me, described at
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicy...m/I18KpJSsCQAJ
but Jay's just taken the prize for that one.


Paramount idiocy? Huh?
Your link goes to a login screen.

Not all Paramounts are idiotic;
https://live.staticflickr.com/8727/1...f81425d9_b.jpg

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