Fun with exponents

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:49:19 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 11:00:49 -0700, cyclintom wrote:


There is no direct ancestor to Homo Sapiens on the Darwinian Tree.
Everything up to Homo Sapiens is a dead end. The trouble is that Homo
Sapiens appears to have popped up in Asia, Asia Minor and Africa at the
same time. Man, is that throwing a monkey wrench in the theory of
evolution.

Nope, it doesn't disprove the theory, but has encourage more searching,
which has found more branches. you really should keep up.

Why? Do you understand what "branching" means? Obviously not. Was your mothing on the same branch as Neadertalis?

On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 15:58:17 -0700, cyclintom wrote:

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:49:19 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 11:00:49 -0700, cyclintom wrote:


There is no direct ancestor to Homo Sapiens on the Darwinian Tree.
Everything up to Homo Sapiens is a dead end. The trouble is that Homo
Sapiens appears to have popped up in Asia, Asia Minor and Africa at
the same time. Man, is that throwing a monkey wrench in the theory of
evolution.

Nope, it doesn't disprove the theory, but has encourage more searching,
which has found more branches. you really should keep up.

Why? Do you understand what "branching" means? Obviously not. Was your
mothing on the same branch as Neadertalis?

I don't have any mothies atm. Do you want me to leave a light on tonight
so you'll have company?

Or are you looking to see if we are related through one of these genetic
ancestry companies?

What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the time to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause, progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed; the rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:46:44 -0700 (PDT), AnotherJim
wrote:

What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the time to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause, progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed; the rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

"Evolution" goes on every day. All modern Thoroughbred horses can
trace their pedigrees to three stallions originally imported into
England in the 17th and 18th centuries, however they have evolved and
modern race horses are noticeably different, larger and faster today
then the horses of 500 years ago.
Cattle are much the same and modern cattle produce more milk or more
meat then their forebears . Sheep produce more and finer fleece, and
so on..

The difference is that with animals evolution is managed rather than a
matter of chance.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Saturday, 6 June 2020 02:52:39 UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:46:44 -0700 (PDT), AnotherJim
wrote:

What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the time to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause, progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed; the rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

"Evolution" goes on every day. All modern Thoroughbred horses can
trace their pedigrees to three stallions originally imported into
England in the 17th and 18th centuries, however they have evolved and
modern race horses are noticeably different, larger and faster today
then the horses of 500 years ago.
Cattle are much the same and modern cattle produce more milk or more
meat then their forebears . Sheep produce more and finer fleece, and
so on..

The difference is that with animals evolution is managed rather than a
matter of chance.
--
cheers,

John B.

That was due to mankind selectively breeding the animals NOT natural evolution. Ditto for many crops such as corn.

Cheers

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 01:51:15 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Saturday, 6 June 2020 02:52:39 UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:46:44 -0700 (PDT), AnotherJim
wrote:

What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the time to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause, progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed; the rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

"Evolution" goes on every day. All modern Thoroughbred horses can
trace their pedigrees to three stallions originally imported into
England in the 17th and 18th centuries, however they have evolved and
modern race horses are noticeably different, larger and faster today
then the horses of 500 years ago.
Cattle are much the same and modern cattle produce more milk or more
meat then their forebears . Sheep produce more and finer fleece, and
so on..

The difference is that with animals evolution is managed rather than a
matter of chance.
--
cheers,

John B.

That was due to mankind selectively breeding the animals NOT natural evolution. Ditto for many crops such as corn.

Cheers

That is what I said :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 01:51:15 -0700, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

On Saturday, 6 June 2020 02:52:39 UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:46:44 -0700 (PDT), AnotherJim
wrote:

What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the time
to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause,
progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a
mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful
competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed; the
rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been
observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

"Evolution" goes on every day. All modern Thoroughbred horses can trace
their pedigrees to three stallions originally imported into England in
the 17th and 18th centuries, however they have evolved and modern race
horses are noticeably different, larger and faster today then the
horses of 500 years ago.
Cattle are much the same and modern cattle produce more milk or more
meat then their forebears . Sheep produce more and finer fleece, and so
on..

The difference is that with animals evolution is managed rather than a
matter of chance.
--
cheers,

John B.

That was due to mankind selectively breeding the animals NOT natural
evolution. Ditto for many crops such as corn.

According to Darwis Thoery, evolution happens due to outside pressure for
change. In the case of domestic animls, the main pressure is the
requirements of humans. In naytural selection, it would be natural
factors as the selective pressure(s). Effectively the same.

It also shows that the genes are there to be selected

Cheers

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 10:46:46 PM UTC-7, AnotherJim wrote:
What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the time to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause, progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed; the rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

In your terms it would be magic. Tell us why we have never found any intermediate stages in your idea of evolution? Why never a "bird"/reptile that had scales starting to change into feathers? A large reptile growing fur? The shape and construction of reptile teeth is uniquely theirs, why no intermediate stage of reptile teeth to mammal?

If speciation occurs at all it has to be an ongoing process. So in the more than 200 years since Darwin's theory why haven't we been able to identify a single case? And for that matter in the 2,000 years since civilization was born surely man would notice speciation and hasn't.

Mutations appear to come around repeated sections of DNA. Some 97% of all necessary proteins for life occur next to repeated or "noise" sections and some 60% of non-lethal areas. So the speed at which mutations occur is a known speed. Nothing can change this because of the immense odds against a mutation surviving. As I said elsewhere - it is 77,000:1 that it isn't fatal.

Pretend to use grade school logic and talk of magic, but that doesn't change odds and time.

Sir Ridesalot writes:

On Saturday, 6 June 2020 02:52:39 UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:46:44 -0700 (PDT), AnotherJim
wrote:

What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the
time to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause,
progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a
mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful
competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed;
the rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been
observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

"Evolution" goes on every day. All modern Thoroughbred horses can
trace their pedigrees to three stallions originally imported into
England in the 17th and 18th centuries, however they have evolved and
modern race horses are noticeably different, larger and faster today
then the horses of 500 years ago.
Cattle are much the same and modern cattle produce more milk or more
meat then their forebears . Sheep produce more and finer fleece, and
so on..

The difference is that with animals evolution is managed rather than a
matter of chance.
--
cheers,

John B.

That was due to mankind selectively breeding the animals NOT natural
evolution. Ditto for many crops such as corn.

It's still evolution. Domestic animals have improved reproductory
fitness, due to the preferences of their keepers. Not that different
really from other instances of commensalism, where two or more species
evolve to suit each other, like ants and aphids.

On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 7:39:03 AM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote:
Sir Ridesalot writes:

On Saturday, 6 June 2020 02:52:39 UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:46:44 -0700 (PDT), AnotherJim
wrote:

What are you all on about now? Evolution somehow doesn't have the
time to produce what we have? Therefore, what: Magic?

The observation of evolution caused speculation about its cause,
progress, and rate. Environmental pressure of some sort favors a
mutation of some sort, and new species result due to successful
competition; the species-to-species progression can be observed;
the rate of change is according to the time scale of what has been
observed to have changed.

Don't like the idea, the observations, the theory? So what?

-Jim

"Evolution" goes on every day. All modern Thoroughbred horses can
trace their pedigrees to three stallions originally imported into
England in the 17th and 18th centuries, however they have evolved and
modern race horses are noticeably different, larger and faster today
then the horses of 500 years ago.
Cattle are much the same and modern cattle produce more milk or more
meat then their forebears . Sheep produce more and finer fleece, and
so on..

The difference is that with animals evolution is managed rather than a
matter of chance.
--
cheers,

John B.

That was due to mankind selectively breeding the animals NOT natural
evolution. Ditto for many crops such as corn.

It's still evolution. Domestic animals have improved reproductory
fitness, due to the preferences of their keepers. Not that different
really from other instances of commensalism, where two or more species
evolve to suit each other, like ants and aphids.

No one argues that improvement of a species through evolution is not present. The argument is about speciation.