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  #21  
Old May 31st 20, 06:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying
thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump
business to Lime.

Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were
shared on social media, angering cycling advocates.

Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model
vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns.

In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any
bikes.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys-
thousands-
of-bikes-and-scooters

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC:
Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after
selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being
crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering
cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of
its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety
concerns.

But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what
one wishes with one's own property?

It is a social good question/morality.
Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you
distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it?

I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to
dispose of it in any manner I wish.

Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole
of a country.
Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so
after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish.
Paying it forward could be a wise investment.



Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a
US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a
safe disposal?


There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on
global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China and
others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being sent
to them.

So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then I'd
say it isn't safe.

My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource
for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a local
charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing.


Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a
fine thing but even diminished value through regulation is
not charity. Do as you will with what you have but the other
guy can certainly make his own decision on his property.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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  #22  
Old May 31st 20, 06:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On 5/31/2020 9:47 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/31/2020 1:15 AM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18

wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:17 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 00:36:25 -0000 (UTC), news18

wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 07:30:46 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/29/2020 11:43 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18

wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18

wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber
is destroying
thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after
selling its Jump
business to Lime.

Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US
recycling centre
were shared on social media, angering cycling
advocates.

Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of
its older-model
vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety
concerns.

In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has
not scrapped
any bikes.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys-

thousands-
of-bikes-and-scooters

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC:
Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes
and scooters,
after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos
of its red bikes
being crushed at a recycling centre were shared
on social media,
angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had
decided to destroy
thousands of its older- model vehicles due to
maintenance,
liability and safety concerns.

But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber?
Can't one do what
one wishes with one's own property?

It is a social good question/morality.
Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish
dumps, or do you
distribute it to charities that might obtain some
use of it?

I would have to say that it is my property than I
have the right to
dispose of it in any manner I wish.

Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you
live in s ****
hole of a country.
Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal
of property, so
after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole
if you wish.
Paying it forward could be a wise investment.


I'm with Mr Slocumb. You missed the principle. Without
property rights
there is no liberty.

I didn't miss the principle. As I said, you are free to
be an arsehole
if you wish.

You mean being an arsehole for doing as I want to with
my own property?
What an amazing attitude.

No, from your attitude. Of course, given your attitude
toyour right,
you'll be as stupid as tommy in understnding the point.

Oh Well. You will, please, get rid of your bicycle as I
decree that you
no longer require it. I have decided that you just
aren't "the bicycle"
type at all. Feel free to disassemble it, destroy it
donate it to the
needy, whatever, but get rid of it. Immediately!

As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and
your inability is
clearly demonstrated above.


Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine
is mine to do
with as I wish.

While you, being the superior individual that you so
obviously are,
have the God given right to tell others what they should
do with their
property.

Your arrogance is positively amazing.


John, you are usually free to do what you want with your
property, provided you don't harm others.

But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin,
then filmed yourself stomping it to bits, people would
rightly think there was something wrong with you.

Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and
publicly set them on fire, people would think the same.

Behaviors somewhat like that are used by some celebrities
and some wannabe celebrities. It's legal, but it's dumb. I'm
surprised you'd ever advocate it.



That may be troubling to people who care what other people
think. meh.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #23  
Old May 31st 20, 09:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On 5/31/2020 11:15 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 7:48:05 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/31/2020 1:15 AM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:17 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 00:36:25 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 07:30:46 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/29/2020 11:43 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18

wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying
thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump
business to Lime.

Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre
were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates.

Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model
vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns.

In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped
any bikes.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys-
thousands-
of-bikes-and-scooters

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC:
Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters,
after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes
being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media,
angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy
thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance,
liability and safety concerns.

But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what
one wishes with one's own property?

It is a social good question/morality.
Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you
distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it?

I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to
dispose of it in any manner I wish.

Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s ****
hole of a country.
Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so
after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish.
Paying it forward could be a wise investment.


I'm with Mr Slocumb. You missed the principle. Without property rights
there is no liberty.

I didn't miss the principle. As I said, you are free to be an arsehole
if you wish.

You mean being an arsehole for doing as I want to with my own property?
What an amazing attitude.

No, from your attitude. Of course, given your attitude toyour right,
you'll be as stupid as tommy in understnding the point.

Oh Well. You will, please, get rid of your bicycle as I decree that you
no longer require it. I have decided that you just aren't "the bicycle"
type at all. Feel free to disassemble it, destroy it donate it to the
needy, whatever, but get rid of it. Immediately!

As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is
clearly demonstrated above.

Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do
with as I wish.

While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are,
have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their
property.

Your arrogance is positively amazing.


John, you are usually free to do what you want with your property,
provided you don't harm others.

But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin, then filmed
yourself stomping it to bits, people would rightly think there was
something wrong with you.

Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and publicly set them
on fire, people would think the same.


Burning money, however, is a federal offense. Nanny government is interfering with your God given property rights! https://www.thoughtco.com/is-burning...llegal-3367953


Huh. But the article makes it sound like "freedom of speech" might be a
defense.

So if you said "Watch me burn these $100 bills to demonstrate the folly
of avarice" you might be OK?

But if you said "Watch me burn these $100 bills to prove I'm a jerk" you
could be prosecuted?

Hmm. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe calling oneself a jerk is protected speech?

It's so confusing. That's why IANAL.


--
- Frank Krygowski
  #24  
Old May 31st 20, 09:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Posts: 10,538
Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On 5/31/2020 1:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying
thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump
business to Lime.

Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were
shared on social media, angering cycling advocates.

Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model
vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns.

In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any
bikes.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys-
thousands-
of-bikes-and-scooters

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC:
Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after
selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being
crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering
cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of
its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety
concerns.

But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what
one wishes with one's own property?

It is a social good question/morality.
Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you
distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it?

I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to
dispose of it in any manner I wish.

Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s ****
hole
of a country.
Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so
after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish.
Paying it forward could be a wise investment.


Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a
US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a
safe disposal?


There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on
global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China and
others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being sent
to them.

So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then I'd
say it isn't safe.

My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource
for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a local
charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing.


Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a fine thing but
even diminished value through regulation is not charity. Do as you will
with what you have but the other guy can certainly make his own decision
on his property.


As with so many other topics that come up here - even the (rare) bicycle
technical ones:

Sure, people can make their own choices. They have freedom of choice.
But others can discuss those choices. We have freedom of speech; and
this _is_ a discussion group.

"All choices are equally valid" is way too liberal for me.

--
- Frank Krygowski
  #25  
Old May 31st 20, 11:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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Posts: 2,421
Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On Sun, 31 May 2020 10:47:58 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 5/31/2020 1:15 AM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:17 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 00:36:25 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 07:30:46 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/29/2020 11:43 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18

wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying
thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump
business to Lime.

Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre
were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates.

Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model
vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns.

In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped
any bikes.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys-
thousands-
of-bikes-and-scooters

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC:
Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters,
after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes
being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media,
angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy
thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance,
liability and safety concerns.

But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what
one wishes with one's own property?

It is a social good question/morality.
Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you
distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it?

I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to
dispose of it in any manner I wish.

Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s ****
hole of a country.
Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so
after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish.
Paying it forward could be a wise investment.


I'm with Mr Slocumb. You missed the principle. Without property rights
there is no liberty.

I didn't miss the principle. As I said, you are free to be an arsehole
if you wish.

You mean being an arsehole for doing as I want to with my own property?
What an amazing attitude.

No, from your attitude. Of course, given your attitude toyour right,
you'll be as stupid as tommy in understnding the point.

Oh Well. You will, please, get rid of your bicycle as I decree that you
no longer require it. I have decided that you just aren't "the bicycle"
type at all. Feel free to disassemble it, destroy it donate it to the
needy, whatever, but get rid of it. Immediately!

As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is
clearly demonstrated above.


Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do
with as I wish.

While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are,
have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their
property.

Your arrogance is positively amazing.


John, you are usually free to do what you want with your property,
provided you don't harm others.

But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin, then filmed
yourself stomping it to bits, people would rightly think there was
something wrong with you.

Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and publicly set them
on fire, people would think the same.

Behaviors somewhat like that are used by some celebrities and some
wannabe celebrities. It's legal, but it's dumb. I'm surprised you'd ever
advocate it.


Actually Frank, I wasn't advocating anything. I was arguing that an
entity has the right to do what it wishes with it's own property.
Are you arguing that one doesn't?

As for others thinking that one is a bit off to burn one's $100 bills?
Well, perhaps.

Just as one must certainly be a bit off to spend, oh say, $3,000 on a
bicycle.... and ride it in the rain? "

Good Lord! Can't they afford a car?"
--
cheers,

John B.

  #26  
Old June 1st 20, 01:20 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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Posts: 2,421
Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On Sun, 31 May 2020 16:16:07 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 5/31/2020 1:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying
thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump
business to Lime.

Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were
shared on social media, angering cycling advocates.

Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model
vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns.

In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any
bikes.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys-
thousands-
of-bikes-and-scooters

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC:
Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after
selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being
crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering
cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of
its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety
concerns.

But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what
one wishes with one's own property?

It is a social good question/morality.
Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you
distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it?

I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to
dispose of it in any manner I wish.

Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s ****
hole
of a country.
Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so
after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish.
Paying it forward could be a wise investment.


Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a
US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a
safe disposal?

There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on
global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China and
others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being sent
to them.

So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then I'd
say it isn't safe.

My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource
for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a local
charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing.


Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a fine thing but
even diminished value through regulation is not charity. Do as you will
with what you have but the other guy can certainly make his own decision
on his property.


As with so many other topics that come up here - even the (rare) bicycle
technical ones:

Sure, people can make their own choices. They have freedom of choice.
But others can discuss those choices. We have freedom of speech; and
this _is_ a discussion group.

"All choices are equally valid" is way too liberal for me.


Why aren't all choices equally valid... for those individuals that
make the choice?

I can certainly find literally hordes of people that don't think that
an engineering career is suitable, that playing a banjo is music, that
riding a bicycle displays even minimal intelligence, even that living
in Ohio is a logical choice :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

  #27  
Old June 1st 20, 01:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
news18
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Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:15:56 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:


As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is
clearly demonstrated above.


Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do
with as I wish.


no problem there, but by the same reasoning,

While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are,
have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their
property.


Unlike you I didn't tell anyone, but may a suggestion for what I see as
more desireable for the advancement of "bums on bicyce seats"

Your arrogance is positively amazing.


Yes, I have the same rights to my opinion as they do to their decision on
disposal. Given that Uber is just another greedy coporate parasite, I
have no shame in my opinion. You really should get over it.

  #28  
Old June 1st 20, 01:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
news18
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Posts: 1,131
Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:25:24 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/31/2020 9:47 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:


John, you are usually free to do what you want with your property,
provided you don't harm others.

But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin, then filmed
yourself stomping it to bits, people would rightly think there was
something wrong with you.

Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and publicly set them
on fire, people would think the same.

Behaviors somewhat like that are used by some celebrities and some
wannabe celebrities. It's legal, but it's dumb. I'm surprised you'd
ever advocate it.



That may be troubling to people who care what other people think. meh.


If you don't care what people think, then you'd do it in private.

  #29  
Old June 1st 20, 01:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
news18
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,131
Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:18:42 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18

wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying
thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump
business to Lime.

Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre
were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates.

Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model
vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns.

In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped
any bikes.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys-
thousands-
of-bikes-and-scooters

An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC:
Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters,
after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes
being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media,
angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy
thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance,
liability and safety concerns.

But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what
one wishes with one's own property?

It is a social good question/morality.
Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you
distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it?

I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to
dispose of it in any manner I wish.

Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s ****
hole of a country.
Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so
after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish.
Paying it forward could be a wise investment.


Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a
US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a
safe disposal?


There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on
global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China
and others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being
sent to them.

So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then
I'd say it isn't safe.

My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource
for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a
local charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing.


Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a fine thing but
even diminished value through regulation is not charity. Do as you will
with what you have but the other guy can certainly make his own decision
on his property.


Trolling? My comment was on corporate activites and not government
seisure.


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Old June 1st 20, 02:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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Default So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 00:46:22 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:15:56 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:


As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is
clearly demonstrated above.


Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do
with as I wish.


no problem there, but by the same reasoning,

While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are,
have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their
property.


Unlike you I didn't tell anyone, but may a suggestion for what I see as
more desireable for the advancement of "bums on bicyce seats"

Your arrogance is positively amazing.


Yes, I have the same rights to my opinion as they do to their decision on
disposal. Given that Uber is just another greedy coporate parasite, I
have no shame in my opinion. You really should get over it.


Greedy coporate parasite? You mean sort of like, oh say, Wesfarmers in
Perth, that employ 217,000 Australians? Or maybe Woolworths Group that
employ 201,522 ?

Without all those "greedy coporate parasites" there would't be any
jobs.
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cheers,

John B.

 




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