You crybabies just don't get it

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:21:59 -0000, kaiser wrote:

Kunich, BillC (et all):

You all sit there and cry aloud about due process and fairness. Yet
you ignore the fact that top people are getting popped left and right
now. At such a rapid pace that there can be no credibility left in
the sport whatsoever. You have no limit to your tolerance (you
****ing hippies). I suppose you think that sponsorship losses will
work in a trickle-like manner. The fact is, you might not GET a Tour
de France next summer. The sponsors just might heave-ho in one fell
swoop. That noise you may hear will not be a rapidly turning
kysirium, but rather the sound of the sponsors abandoning the sport in
droves:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news;_ylt...ters&type=lgns

Due process and courts of law decide if someone is allowed to keep
their freedom or their assets. It has nothing to do with whether
someone is allowed to keep their job etc. A lower standard can be
applied. The NFL has every right to release or suspend a alleged dog
torturer and killer because it is bad for business. Sponsors have
every reason to drop an alleged dog torturer and killer as well as it
is bad for business. Having sponsors and a high paying job as a
professional athlete are not constitutional rights. Should OJs
sponsors resign him because he was found not guilty?

On Jul 27, 7:21 pm, kaiser wrote:
Kunich, BillC (et all):

You all sit there and cry aloud about due process and fairness. Yet
you ignore the fact that top people are getting popped left and right
now. At such a rapid pace that there can be no credibility left in
the sport whatsoever. You have no limit to your tolerance (you
****ing hippies). I suppose you think that sponsorship losses will
work in a trickle-like manner. The fact is, you might not GET a Tour
de France next summer. The sponsors just might heave-ho in one fell
swoop. That noise you may hear will not be a rapidly turning
kysirium, but rather the sound of the sponsors abandoning the sport in
droves:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news;_ylt...ARyCx.grcF?slu...

not likely.NEWTON again. what would the 162 undrugged cycle racers do
that wek? rob liquor stores?molest children, tune up the ferrari?
remember the angry mob that tore Rasmussen from his bike and threw him
down the cliff? what would they do? take laxatives? buy vodaphones?
drink Gerolstammer?

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:21:59 -0000, kaiser wrote:

Kunich, BillC (et all):

You all sit there and cry aloud about due process and fairness. Yet
you ignore the fact that top people are getting popped left and right
now. At such a rapid pace that there can be no credibility left in
the sport whatsoever.

Without a fair process for testing and administering the results there will be
no credibility. Credibility flows from the top down.

Pretty obviously a lot of riders did not really believe a new-regime anti-doping
sheriff was in town. No credibility from the sanctioning body. Even the riders
didn't believe them.

You have no limit to your tolerance (you
****ing hippies). I suppose you think that sponsorship losses will
work in a trickle-like manner. The fact is, you might not GET a Tour
de France next summer. The sponsors just might heave-ho in one fell
swoop. That noise you may hear will not be a rapidly turning
kysirium, but rather the sound of the sponsors abandoning the sport in
droves:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news;_ylt...ters&type=lgns

Will riders still race across France?
You know they will.
Cool.

Ron

On Jul 28, 9:33 am, RonSonic wrote:

Will riders still race across France?
You know they will.
Cool.

You mean race around France. Hmmm...now that you mention it, I think
you've stumbled upon a new paradigm. All the riders dope at the
start, then they have to race across France and head for the borders
with the gendarmes and vampires in hot pursuit! It would be a cross
between Cyclysm Sunday, Missing Persons and Law & Order. The public
could use text messaging to alert the authorities - or mislead them in
favor of their favorite riders. The new technology employed would get
great coverage. Night vision cameras and stealth technology applied
to fookin bike racing!

R

Tim wrote:

The NFL has every right to release or suspend a alleged dog
torturer and killer because it is bad for business. Sponsors have
every reason to drop an alleged dog torturer and killer as well as it
is bad for business.


If Michael Vick is actually convicted, which is a longshot, he might
still be axed from the NFL because of the *gambling* That carries a
stiffer penalty than Dog Torture. Which is not to say that I don't think
he's guilty and should be punished. Hell is too good for that barbaric
asshole.

Then if the NFL's "punishment" isn't enough then the fans will have the
right to respond as they should. Either way the NFL has the opportunity
to do the right thing here. Be interesting to see if the money involved
will influence their decision.


Hell even Nike is hedging by not withdrawing current Vick products.



Bill

In article . com,
RicodJour wrote:

On Jul 28, 9:33 am, RonSonic wrote:

Will riders still race across France?
You know they will.
Cool.

You mean race around France. Hmmm...now that you mention it, I think
you've stumbled upon a new paradigm. All the riders dope at the
start, then they have to race across France and head for the borders
with the gendarmes and vampires in hot pursuit! It would be a cross
between Cyclysm Sunday, Missing Persons and Law & Order. The public
could use text messaging to alert the authorities - or mislead them in
favor of their favorite riders. The new technology employed would get
great coverage. Night vision cameras and stealth technology applied
to fookin bike racing!

R

The Riding Man! Too bad Richard Dawson isn't around to host.

As always, there will be no penalties, no substitutions, and no time
limits,

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message
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In article k.net,
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"DirtRoadie" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 27, 7:56 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

He's sort of like a boil - he's so full of pain, pus and canker that
he
will
use absolutely any excuse to explode anger in every direction.

But you have to admit that him, datakoll and a couple of others
deserve
to
be simply ignored as the pain in the ass little children that they do
obviously are.

What? Datakoll a PITA? Hardly! Incoherent at times (most of the
time), but not nearly the PITA that many others in this group are.
I appreciate those who share insight and information, even opinion.
But not worth my time are those (the armchair quarterbacks) who only
offer their obesessions - couched as opinions.

I'll think about that and read some of his rants.

As in so many other things, liquor helps.

After looking over some of his postings today I have to say there ain't
enough liquor in the world. What's more, since I'm taking an
anti-cholesterol drug that effectively triples the effect of alcohol that's
saying a lot.

On Jul 28, 3:07 pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article . com,





RicodJour wrote:
On Jul 28, 9:33 am, RonSonic wrote:

Will riders still race across France?
You know they will.
Cool.

You mean race around France. Hmmm...now that you mention it, I think
you've stumbled upon a new paradigm. All the riders dope at the
start, then they have to race across France and head for the borders
with the gendarmes and vampires in hot pursuit! It would be a cross
between Cyclysm Sunday, Missing Persons and Law & Order. The public
could use text messaging to alert the authorities - or mislead them in
favor of their favorite riders. The new technology employed would get
great coverage. Night vision cameras and stealth technology applied
to fookin bike racing!

R

The Riding Man! Too bad Richard Dawson isn't around to host.

As always, there will be no penalties, no substitutions, and no time
limits,

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text -

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FORMULA LIBRE! i hold the crowds were a substantial factor in
Rasmussen's undoing, manipulated by Prudhomme. When did P begin his
spiel? when the Tour passed thru Denmark?
A significant crowd increase could undo the Tour - Mille Miglia?
Its hard to kill something like the Tour as it exists in the
collective conscious ether waiting for ad money to pour in the
nigenerate results-like the apple harvest in your nabs backyard.
Just changing names or "ownership" is almost the same as rebirth. The
people involved are the masses who buy darryl earnhardt stuff maybe
worser. Most of us are privledge elitists with comouters and carbon
fiber cycles or poverty stricken LBS mechanics but the Euro fan may
actually ride a bicycle to work. I mean like look at the roadside's up
the Col de Prudhomme. More bikes may mean lower intelligence levels.
You know what we need to gauge here are the collective intelligence
levels of the peloton...
I'm going home never to return: prudhomme, trautig et al make me
physically ill.

In article
. com,
kaiser wrote:

Kunich, BillC (et all):

You all sit there and cry aloud about due process and fairness. Yet
you ignore the fact that top people are getting popped left and right
now. At such a rapid pace that there can be no credibility left in
the sport whatsoever. You have no limit to your tolerance (you
****ing hippies). I suppose you think that sponsorship losses will
work in a trickle-like manner. The fact is, you might not GET a Tour
de France next summer. The sponsors just might heave-ho in one fell
swoop. That noise you may hear will not be a rapidly turning
kysirium, but rather the sound of the sponsors abandoning the sport in
droves:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news;_ylt...ters&type=lgns

But why do you care?

--
Michael Press

In article
,
"William R. Mattil" wrote:

Tim wrote:

The NFL has every right to release or suspend a alleged dog
torturer and killer because it is bad for business. Sponsors have
every reason to drop an alleged dog torturer and killer as well as it
is bad for business.


If Michael Vick is actually convicted, which is a longshot,

Not a long shot. He is going down. He will never take
another snap in the NFL. He is dog food.

he might
still be axed from the NFL because of the *gambling* That carries a
stiffer penalty than Dog Torture. Which is not to say that I don't think
he's guilty and should be punished. Hell is too good for that barbaric
asshole.

Then if the NFL's "punishment" isn't enough then the fans will have the
right to respond as they should. Either way the NFL has the opportunity
to do the right thing here. Be interesting to see if the money involved
will influence their decision.


Hell even Nike is hedging by not withdrawing current Vick products.

--
Michael Press