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Old November 1st 06, 02:13 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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joemarshall wrote:
Yes it is. ISIS is a splined interface, so it must have splined cranks.




Unicycle.com says:

only has lightweight Isis hub and cranks, for extreme jumping look at
our unicycles with splined hubs.




So is it splined or not?

I still think the nimbus will be better because unicycle.com says that
it is entry level.

David.


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Old November 1st 06, 04:05 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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David H wrote:
Unicycle.com says:

So is it splined or not?

I still think the nimbus will be better because unicycle.com says that
it is entry level.




Yep it's splined. It's a lightweight splined hub which will be not as
strong as the heavier splined hubs, but may be stronger than the square
taper hub on the Nimbus. Unicycle.com might know if you ask them.

Entry level means the same thing as beginner. Either of these unicycles
will probably break if you do big drops.

Phone up unicycle.com, he'll tell you which of these two is best for
your riding style, and you'll avoid ending up with a unicycle which is
comparatively junk like the old Qu-ax you've linked in the other
thread.

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Old November 1st 06, 04:12 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Default Qu-Ax Beginners Trials Unicycle???


joemarshall wrote:
Yep it's splined. It's a lightweight splined hub which will be not as
strong as the heavier splined hubs, but may be stronger than the square
taper hub on the Nimbus.




So what would you say about getting the '07 beginners qu-ax '
(http://tinyurl.com/dkp83)and a maxis 'creepy crawler tire?'
(http://tinyurl.com/yy3mlx) for £138?

Thanks




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Old November 1st 06, 08:42 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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If you are going to be doing mainly street, leave that tire on there and
try it out. Who knows, you might end up liking it.


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Old November 2nd 06, 12:00 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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David H wrote:
So what would you say about getting the '07 beginners qu-ax '
(http://tinyurl.com/dkp83)and a maxis 'creepy crawler tire?'
(http://tinyurl.com/yy3mlx) for £138?

Thanks





A true trials tire (like the Maxxis creepy crawler) will not fit on a
true 20" rim.


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Old November 2nd 06, 01:12 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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If you are already willing to spend a bit more for the tire, you may
aswell just go right on ahead and get a 'qu-ax trials'
(http://tinyurl.com/ae87h) for 175, which is only 27 pounds more than
what you were looking at. It is way better than the beginner trials and
not that much more.

For 55 pounds, you get a 19 inch tire and rim, and a much stronger hub
with stronger cranks.


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Old November 2nd 06, 01:30 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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forrestunifreak wrote:
A true trials tire (like the Maxxis creepy crawler) will not fit on a
true 20" rim.




Just to clarify further, there are actually THREE different versions of
the entry level Qu-ax that I know of

version 1: 19" rim with a 19x2.5" trials tyre, red square taper hub
version 2: 19" rim with a 19x2.5" trials tyre, red ISIS hub
version 3: 20" rim with a 20x2.25" tyre, red ISIS hub

Regarding compatibility:
As already pointed out, tyres designed for 19" rims are NOT
interchangeable with tyres designed for 20" rims. You will not be able
to run a high volume 19x2.5" trials tyre on a 20" rim.

Also note that not all ISIS drives are created equal. The ISIS hub
used on the entry level Qu-ax has a larger diameter hole for the crank
bolts than the KH ISIS hubs use. This means the hub has less metal and
is weaker than the KH. You can still mount other ISIS cranks (eg KH
Moment or Onza Tensile) though.

The yellow Qu-ax splined hubs (aka thumper) are not ISIS but they do
have a small diameter hole for the cranks bolts. This means the hub
has more metal and should be much stronger than the red hub. Both hubs
are splined but the yellow Qu-ax hub is designed for high end use while
the red hub is for entry level riders.

We've been testing a red Qu-ax ISIS hub and haven't managed to break it
yet. It remains to be seen how much abuse it will stand up to.


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Old November 2nd 06, 09:06 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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peter.bier wrote:

We've been testing a red Qu-ax ISIS hub and haven't managed to break it
yet. It remains to be seen how much abuse it will stand up to.




Does that mean it's stronger than the square taper hubs then?

cheers,

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Old November 2nd 06, 09:31 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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my nimbus holds up to'this' (http://tinyurl.com/u8ecx) and it is
still... in really bad shape. But it is rideable.


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Old November 2nd 06, 06:48 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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peter.bier wrote:
Just to clarify further, there are actually THREE different versions of
the entry level Qu-ax that I know of

version 1: 19" rim with a 19x2.5" trials tyre, red square taper hub
version 2: 19" rim with a 19x2.5" trials tyre, red ISIS hub
version 3: 20" rim with a 20x2.25" tyre, red ISIS hub


The yellow Qu-ax splined hubs (aka thumper) are not ISIS but they do
have a small diameter hole for the cranks bolts. This means the hub
has more metal and should be much stronger than the red hub. Both hubs
are splined but the yellow Qu-ax hub is designed for high end use while
the red hub is for entry level riders.

We've been testing a red Qu-ax ISIS hub and haven't managed to break it
yet. It remains to be seen how much abuse it will stand up to.




Ah, I wasn't aware that they had out a 19" trials (they call it Cross)
with the red ISIS hub. If they are actually selling those, then that
would definitly be the best choice out of the three.


Regarding the strength of the red "cross" ISIS hub and cranks: The
cranks themselves should be stronger then square taper, square cranks
have a habit of stripping out either the cranks or the axle.
However as mentioned above, the axle itself is hollow and has less
metal, so it is not as strong as ISIS hubs such as Koxx or KH. Compared
to square axles, they shouldn't break the ends of the axle were the
crank meets the axle, but hard impacts may cuase failure closer inside
the wheel.

I hope that actually makes sense. I haven't gotten a chance to test out
my cross ISIS uni's yet as far as strength is concerend.


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