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Multi-sport, all-around jacket/shell?
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:38:36 -0500, PCB wrote:
Is there a good, uninsulated, waterproof/breathable jacket, patterned for cycling, but with a removable hood? The extent to which it is breathable is, advertising aside, the extent to which it is not waterproof. I have a USPS-branded windbreaker/parka that is pretty good, but once the rain gets bad enough, I'm gonna get soaked. Since that happens less often than getting soaked from the inside when wearing a plastic bag or equivalent, I live with it. -- David L. Johnson __o | When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember _`\(,_ | that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. -- LBJ (_)/ (_) | |
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"David L. Johnson" wrote in message
news On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:38:36 -0500, PCB wrote: The extent to which it is breathable is, advertising aside, the extent to which it is not waterproof. I used to work at REI and later MSR (R & D), and this is my understanding. Waterproofness and breathability are two measures of the same characteristic from different ends of the specturm (if it's waterproof it won't breath, and if it's very breathable it can't be very waterproof.) Further, no fabric can breath once the outer or inner surface is covered with water in the liquid phase. It might pass a small amount of liquid water in response to the varying vapor or barometric pressures on the two sides of the cloth, but it can't "breath" in any sense that we'd call "breathing". Ironically, one of the best compromises I've ever run across was the old-fashioned 60/40 cloth, which breathed very well and was also essentially waterproof once the fabric became saturated with liquid water, but by then it was also clammy. C'es le vie. - Lance |
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PCB wrote:
*Windproof*, breathable, and water-resistant. That's all I really need for a shell. You might look here for either designs, materials, ideas, or possibly custom garment if you're really particular about what you're looking for. NFI, and I haven't used her services, but she is a mtn biker and posts in alt.mountain-bike. http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/about/whatis.asp I wouldn't think it would be that hard to find the hood design you're looking for since that's what I see in a lot of stores - and looks exactly like what I'm *not* looking for It looks like the hood doesn't close fully in the front to come up over chin, but maybe the looks are deceiving. I like my hoods attached, stowable out of the way, and full closure in the front to keep 50 mph winds out. I've never had an attached, stowed hood get in my way for running or biking that I remember. (Runners in Alaska and other places do wear hoods *if* the weather warrants it.) FWIW, I'm currently testing Patagonia Krushell. It's definitely windproof and water-resistant (definitely not waterproof in a steady rain), but not sure yet about breathability for winter use (can't handle sweat-load in cool rain, but I think it'll be able to handle winter sweat-loads, at least I think based on brief test last winter). I haven't biked in it yet, at least not that I remember, to know if there's any issues with it being too long (no double zip in front, I don't wear my good running/biking gear for everyday commuting). I got it about 1/2 price on close-out at end of last winter so it hasn't been through all seasons yet. Definitely wouldn't pay full price for it, but it's a big improvement for me over what I had been using. I'll probably be looking for something lighter for summer wear (3-4oz). Technology is constantly improving. Good luck in your search. Dot -- "So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog |
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In article , PCB wrote: In article , David L. Johnson wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:38:36 -0500, PCB wrote: Is there a good, uninsulated, waterproof/breathable jacket, patterned for cycling, but with a removable hood? The extent to which it is breathable is, advertising aside, the extent to which it is not waterproof. I have a USPS-branded windbreaker/parka that is pretty good, but once the rain gets bad enough, I'm gonna get soaked. Since that happens less often than getting soaked from the inside when wearing a plastic bag or equivalent, I live with it. That jacket sounds like what I need. I guess I will have to check ebay for one, since that is the only result I could find for it. *Windproof*, breathable, and water-resistant. That's all I really need for a shell. _ You might look at the various Marmot Driclime jackets available. That fabric combo very closely matches your needs. This one has a roll up hood. http://www.usoutdoorstore.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=5629!700 _ If you can live with a little less windproofness than the Driclime, then I highly recommend the various softshell jackets available. I have a Cloudviel Interia Jacket that I like very much for biking and it is handy for everything else as well. This version is without the hood, but I'm pretty sure they made a version with a hood as well, but I can't find it at the moment. http://www.backcountry.com/store/clv...gle&mv_pc=r101 _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQVHV32TWTAjn5N/lAQFftwP7BPgSa8HaCo39erQga6XZS9rxh1QeyO+7 jnxElH30UBWO6+Eaq1Uy5G9W3RsOWLXrXRqw8cv+Rs6aU4nt0K liA9uXFEMhsW8R eLtCMIVB6ywUeaG4GXectKQ5IPXF9QcO5yEtsvrXP083MDtg42 CqalEoaB9/opGb h4/KO/M1oGs= =RbN1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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