Mandatory Hi-vis at work.

Our HSE bods have created a new rule whereby all users of our car park must
wear hi-vis jackets when getting out of their cars and walking to the
turnstiles. I was told that this applies to cyclists as well and was
presented with an XXXL size hi-vis jacket (I am 11st 12lbs and 6ft 2ins) so
it was like a small tent on me.

I got onto the HSE head and told him that wearing this thing on my bike was
not possible and indeed against cycling advice not to wear loose or flapping
clothing. They then started back pedalling and told me that my usual cycle
specific hi-vis jacket would be acceptable which is OK in Spring but on a
hot summer's day, I am going to have to wear a bright coloured jersey and
hope that no jobsworth challenges me.

No Rapha gear on the way to work then, not that I wear any.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

Simon Mason wrote:

Our HSE bods have created a new rule whereby all users of our car park must
wear hi-vis jackets when getting out of their cars and walking to the
turnstiles. I was told that this applies to cyclists as well and was
presented with an XXXL size hi-vis jacket (I am 11st 12lbs and 6ft 2ins) so
it was like a small tent on me.

I got onto the HSE head and told him that wearing this thing on my bike was
not possible and indeed against cycling advice not to wear loose or flapping
clothing. They then started back pedalling and told me that my usual cycle
specific hi-vis jacket would be acceptable...

Our carparks have delineated walking routes where you are exempt from
wearing a hi-vis. This hi-vis malarky is all an arse-covering
excersise. Nobody is actually made safer by wearing a hi-vis. What
would make things safer would be a strictly enforced yard speed limit.

My lot (soon to be part TNT) seem to accept my Altura Nevis in
dayglo-yellow as a hi-vis for walking across the loading bay platform
to get into the minibus to take me to my delivery. The first thing I
do at my delivery is change into the more usual dark blue postie
jacket. I dare say in the warmer months ahead I will take the Nevis
off as soon as I am in the bus. At the end of the delivery the postie
jacket goes back in the trolley and my Nevis comes out of my pannier.
In summer it stays in and and only comes out to ride to work the next
morning, or in really warm weather to walk out onto the loading bay.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:40:31 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

Our HSE bods have created a new rule whereby all users of our car park must
wear hi-vis jackets when getting out of their cars and walking to the
turnstiles. I was told that this applies to cyclists as well and was
presented with an XXXL size hi-vis jacket (I am 11st 12lbs and 6ft 2ins) so
it was like a small tent on me.

I got onto the HSE head and told him that wearing this thing on my bike was
not possible and indeed against cycling advice not to wear loose or flapping
clothing. They then started back pedalling and told me that my usual cycle
specific hi-vis jacket would be acceptable which is OK in Spring but on a
hot summer's day, I am going to have to wear a bright coloured jersey and
hope that no jobsworth challenges me.


Outrageous - BP trying to do something which is in the interests of
their staff - whatever next.




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by mode Per billion passenger kilometers:

Pedal Cyclists : 533

Pedestrians : 384

Which do you think is the most dangerous?

"Phil Cook" wrote in message
...


Our carparks have delineated walking routes where you are exempt from
wearing a hi-vis. This hi-vis malarky is all an arse-covering
exercise. Nobody is actually made safer by wearing a hi-vis. What
would make things safer would be a strictly enforced yard speed limit.

We have paths too. I fact I lock my bike to a bit of fence that I am
generously afforded and then step onto a path and walk 10 yards to the
turnstile, but still have to wear hi-vis.

Had I used the cycle sheds which are right at the back of our car parks, a)
my bike would have been nicked years ago and b) I'd have to walk between
100's of parked cars and across 8 lanes of traffic with cars ignoring the 15
mph speed limit. I put in a suggestion to install cycle lockers next to the
turnstiles, but I think they've blown the budget on smoking kiosks so people
can kill themselves in safety :-/


My lot (soon to be part TNT) seem to accept my Altura Nevis in
dayglo-yellow as a hi-vis for walking across the loading bay platform
to get into the minibus to take me to my delivery. The first thing I
do at my delivery is change into the more usual dark blue postie
jacket. I dare say in the warmer months ahead I will take the Nevis
off as soon as I am in the bus. At the end of the delivery the postie
jacket goes back in the trolley and my Nevis comes out of my pannier.
In summer it stays in and and only comes out to ride to work the next
morning, or in really warm weather to walk out onto the loading bay.

In summer I might get away with a dayglo snap band on my bare arm. It will
be interesting to see what the few other cyclists wear in summer who are
currently sporting heavy hi-vis coats. It's already too mild for those
during the day.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
Our HSE bods have created a new rule whereby all users of our car park
must wear hi-vis jackets when getting out of their cars and walking to the
turnstiles. I was told that this applies to cyclists as well and was
presented with an XXXL size hi-vis jacket (I am 11st 12lbs and 6ft 2ins)
so it was like a small tent on me.

I got onto the HSE head and told him that wearing this thing on my bike
was not possible and indeed against cycling advice not to wear loose or
flapping clothing. They then started back pedalling and told me that my
usual cycle specific hi-vis jacket would be acceptable which is OK in
Spring but on a hot summer's day, I am going to have to wear a bright
coloured jersey and hope that no jobsworth challenges me.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

The car park at the BRI hospital in Bristol has a sign "cyclists dismount in
car park". Strangely enough, the drivers don't have to get out and push.

We should plot to kill all H&S people in their beds, if only to show just
how dangerous the world really is, and I'm sure they'd die happy, having
been proved right.

"burtthebike" wrote in message
...

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
Our HSE bods have created a new rule whereby all users of our car park
must wear hi-vis jackets when getting out of their cars and walking to
the turnstiles. I was told that this applies to cyclists as well and was
presented with an XXXL size hi-vis jacket (I am 11st 12lbs and 6ft 2ins)
so it was like a small tent on me.

I got onto the HSE head and told him that wearing this thing on my bike
was not possible and indeed against cycling advice not to wear loose or
flapping clothing. They then started back pedalling and told me that my
usual cycle specific hi-vis jacket would be acceptable which is OK in
Spring but on a hot summer's day, I am going to have to wear a bright
coloured jersey and hope that no jobsworth challenges me.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

The car park at the BRI hospital in Bristol has a sign "cyclists dismount
in car park". Strangely enough, the drivers don't have to get out and
push.

We should plot to kill all H&S people in their beds, if only to show just
how dangerous the world really is, and I'm sure they'd die happy, having
been proved right.

Simon,do what i do,roll it up really small,shove it in cycling jersey pocket
or in panniers or whatever and just put it on when you have too.I have found
from myself that nothing delights these H&S freaks than people complaining
about the things they bring in.Wear it with a smile,that seems to **** them
off more.

Simon

"burtthebike" wrote in message
...

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
Our HSE bods have created a new rule whereby all users of our car park
must wear hi-vis jackets when getting out of their cars and walking to
the turnstiles. I was told that this applies to cyclists as well and was
presented with an XXXL size hi-vis jacket (I am 11st 12lbs and 6ft 2ins)
so it was like a small tent on me.

I got onto the HSE head and told him that wearing this thing on my bike
was not possible and indeed against cycling advice not to wear loose or
flapping clothing. They then started back pedalling and told me that my
usual cycle specific hi-vis jacket would be acceptable which is OK in
Spring but on a hot summer's day, I am going to have to wear a bright
coloured jersey and hope that no jobsworth challenges me.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

The car park at the BRI hospital in Bristol has a sign "cyclists dismount
in car park". Strangely enough, the drivers don't have to get out and
push.

We should plot to kill all H&S people in their beds, if only to show just
how dangerous the world really is, and I'm sure they'd die happy, having
been proved right.
Oh i forgot to mention(im a shop steward BTW)in the event of you having an
accident and your wearing it your covering your own arse. Had a few cases
lately were company got out of paying because accident claimant was not
wearing issued H&S gear.Just something to bear in mind.

Simon

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:35:42 +0000, Phil Cook
said in
:

Nobody is actually made safer by wearing a hi-vis. What
would make things safer would be a strictly enforced yard speed limit.

I think we should try gibbets first.

I'd also ask the elves and their safe tea whether there are any
documented incidents of pedestrian injury in that area over the last
ten years, and how many of these were due to:

o ice / snow
o simple trips and falls
o being run over

I bet you a pound the low-hanging fruit would be a grit bin.

Guy
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:54:53 -0700, "burtthebike"
wrote:

We should plot to kill all H&S people in their beds, if only to show just
how dangerous the world really is, and I'm sure they'd die happy, having
been proved right.

LOL

A candidate for post of the year.


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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:54:53 -0700 someone who may be "burtthebike"
wrote this:-

We should plot to kill all H&S people in their beds, if only to show just
how dangerous the world really is, and I'm sure they'd die happy, having
been proved right.

The Health and Safety people I have discussed things with have been
very sensible. However, they are too expensive to employ other than
in specialised posts. The problem is not Health and Safety people
but paper pushers who have been on a course for a day or two and are
now supposedly proficient. These are the idiots who ban games of
conkers (IIRC that was done by a school teacher).


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
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