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Old January 26th 07, 08:46 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default Mike again revels in the death of a human

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:03:01 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:58:54 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:18:19 -0500, "S Curtiss"
wrote:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:43:05 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:26:28 -0800, cc wrote:

Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Freeride Entertainment's Carey Bokser perishes in backcountry
By Darren Davidson
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
And the point of this post is....?

....that mike is a sick ****.
At one time I would have agreed with you. But after watching ATV'ers,
Snowmobilers, Mountain Bikers, destroy themselves and the environment,
I simply don't give a hoot when some idiot gets killed. Homo Sapiens
is not an endangered species.

Max
The mountain bikers wish I would shut up, so that, I guess, MORE
people will fooloshly kill themselves. Obviously, they don't care
about their own peers. They have done NOTHING to prevent deaths like
this. And they want to clainm that I'M the one who's callous?! Just
the opposite is true.....
Explain your logic in associating only mountain bikers to skiing accidents.
Mountain bikers are NOTORIOUS for going where they aren't allowed,
which is why this guy died. If he had stuck to the LEGAL trails, he
would still be alive. Why do you want mountain bikers to die? You are
SICK!
Out of bounds != illegal, moron.
Then how do you explain what he was doing?

He was backcountry skiing outside the resort.


Right, which is off-limits. Illegal. Typical for mountain bikers: they
NEVER obey the rules.


wrong. again.
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  #42  
Old January 26th 07, 08:46 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
On 23 Jan 2007 12:24:15 -0800, "Beej" wrote:

On Jan 23, 8:16 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Then how do you explain what he was doing?

The article straightforwardly says he was ski touring.


Right, where it wasn't allowed. Read it again.


Mike, we all know you're talking out of your ass. It was not illegal.
  #43  
Old January 26th 07, 10:02 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
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On 23 Jan 2007 12:24:15 -0800, "Beej" wrote:

On Jan 23, 8:16 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Then how do you explain what he was doing?


The article straightforwardly says he was ski touring.


Right, where it wasn't allowed. Read it again.

YOU read it again - After all, you posted it.

MV: "Out of bounds != illegal, moron."

Wrong! Again applying your experience (or lack of) to activities you do not
understand.
Quote from the article: "their descent on an expert out-of-bounds slope
known as the Hummer Face"
Note the use of the term "expert". This is a skiable area for experts only
outside of the normal boundaries of the area. It is not "illegal" but an
"expert area".
YOU are the MORON for not READING what you post.
And you still have NOT answered the following -

"What of the accidents involving non-cyclists? Your post of nearly a year
old story concerning the death of someone skiing is callous and meaningless
beyond your own bias.
Where is the comparison of all injuries of skiers and their backgrounds?
Without that, you can make no link of mountain bikers involvement being any
more valid as a variable of cause.
By your logic, politicians do not care about their peers or killing
themselves since Sonny Bono died skiing.
Perhaps real numbers interest you:
"According to the National Ski Area Association (NSAA), 36 people died as a
result of ski related injuries last year, compared to an average of 89
lightning strike deaths."
This is from a '90s report but still relevant. Can you show that all 36
people were mountain bikers? What of the lightning strikes...? Were they all
mountain bikers, too?"
What is OBVIOUS is you are 100% an imbecile.



  #44  
Old January 27th 07, 02:25 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default Mike again revels in the death of a human

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:02:58 -0500, "S Curtiss"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .
On 23 Jan 2007 12:24:15 -0800, "Beej" wrote:

On Jan 23, 8:16 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Then how do you explain what he was doing?

The article straightforwardly says he was ski touring.


Right, where it wasn't allowed. Read it again.

YOU read it again - After all, you posted it.

MV: "Out of bounds != illegal, moron."

Wrong! Again applying your experience (or lack of) to activities you do not
understand.
Quote from the article: "their descent on an expert out-of-bounds slope
known as the Hummer Face"
Note the use of the term "expert". This is a skiable area for experts only
outside of the normal boundaries of the area. It is not "illegal" but an
"expert area".


He obviously wasn't an expert, or he wouldn't be dead. So he was where
he didn't belong -- NOTHING NEW FOR A MOUNTAIN BIKER!

YOU are the MORON for not READING what you post.
And you still have NOT answered the following -

"What of the accidents involving non-cyclists? Your post of nearly a year
old story concerning the death of someone skiing is callous and meaningless
beyond your own bias.
Where is the comparison of all injuries of skiers and their backgrounds?
Without that, you can make no link of mountain bikers involvement being any
more valid as a variable of cause.
By your logic, politicians do not care about their peers or killing
themselves since Sonny Bono died skiing.
Perhaps real numbers interest you:
"According to the National Ski Area Association (NSAA), 36 people died as a
result of ski related injuries last year, compared to an average of 89
lightning strike deaths."
This is from a '90s report but still relevant. Can you show that all 36
people were mountain bikers? What of the lightning strikes...? Were they all
mountain bikers, too?"
What is OBVIOUS is you are 100% an imbecile.


===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old January 27th 07, 06:25 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:02:58 -0500, "S Curtiss"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
. ..
On 23 Jan 2007 12:24:15 -0800, "Beej" wrote:

On Jan 23, 8:16 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Then how do you explain what he was doing?

The article straightforwardly says he was ski touring.

Right, where it wasn't allowed. Read it again.

YOU read it again - After all, you posted it.

MV: "Out of bounds != illegal, moron."

Wrong! Again applying your experience (or lack of) to activities you do
not
understand.
Quote from the article: "their descent on an expert out-of-bounds slope
known as the Hummer Face"
Note the use of the term "expert". This is a skiable area for experts only
outside of the normal boundaries of the area. It is not "illegal" but an
"expert area".


He obviously wasn't an expert, or he wouldn't be dead. So he was where
he didn't belong -- NOTHING NEW FOR A MOUNTAIN BIKER!

From the piece YOU posted:
"Originally from Toronto, Carey moved to Nelson from Vancouver in the
summer of 1995. He was a skilled, experienced backcountry skier..."
The piece also states his ski caught on a rock. Not uncommon, but the
beginning of an unfortunate accident. Only you could take joy in it.
And when will you address the points below? You can't because you are a
coward and simpleton when faced with real information or a challenge to
actually back with fact the statements you make. The proof is here and in
10+ years of usenet which a simple "vandeman" search of usenet will testify.

YOU are the MORON for not READING what you post.
And you still have NOT answered the following -

"What of the accidents involving non-cyclists? Your post of nearly a year
old story concerning the death of someone skiing is callous and
meaningless
beyond your own bias.
Where is the comparison of all injuries of skiers and their backgrounds?
Without that, you can make no link of mountain bikers involvement being
any
more valid as a variable of cause.
By your logic, politicians do not care about their peers or killing
themselves since Sonny Bono died skiing.
Perhaps real numbers interest you:
"According to the National Ski Area Association (NSAA), 36 people died as
a
result of ski related injuries last year, compared to an average of 89
lightning strike deaths."
This is from a '90s report but still relevant. Can you show that all 36
people were mountain bikers? What of the lightning strikes...? Were they
all
mountain bikers, too?"
What is OBVIOUS is you are 100% an imbecile.


===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



 




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