Another bike in collision with a car...

Yet again the EDP are at it.

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/...A15%3A56%3A187

"Woman cyclist dies in A47 crash

24 December 2005 16:14

SWAFFHAM: An elderly woman died on Christmas Eve on the A47. The woman was
cycling on the single-lane carriageway towards King's Lynn when her bike was
in collision with a black Citroen car at about 11.50am. It is understood she
had just joined the A47 from the Swaffham junction, a few metres from where
the bypass duals."

One never but never reads in the EDP that a car is in collision with a
bike... always those pesky cyclists or bikes doing the colliding..

BAH!

helen s

"wafflycat" wrote in message
...
One never but never reads in the EDP that a car is in collision with a
bike... always those pesky cyclists or bikes doing the colliding..

Par for the course re. some journalists. The recent pile-up on the M62 was
apparently caused by fog which presumably took over control of the vehicles.
--
Pete

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:12:21 +0000 (UTC), "wafflycat"
wrote:

One never but never reads in the EDP that a car is in collision with a
bike...

That's because they write the story from the riders perspective...

Jim.

I had to laugh at the 'Motorist dies in tree collision' headline on the
BBC Dorset website yesterday. It conjured up a rather surreal mental
image...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/4558146.stm

(I don't deny the tragedy of the situation - it was the coice of *words*
which amused.)

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

wafflycat wrote:
Yet again the EDP are at it.

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/...A15%3A56%3A187

"Woman cyclist dies in A47 crash

24 December 2005 16:14

SWAFFHAM: An elderly woman died on Christmas Eve on the A47. The
woman was cycling on the single-lane carriageway towards King's Lynn
when her bike was in collision with a black Citroen car at about
11.50am. It is understood she had just joined the A47 from the
Swaffham junction, a few metres from where the bypass duals."

One never but never reads in the EDP that a car is in collision with a
bike... always those pesky cyclists or bikes doing the colliding..

BAH!

helen s

once again you are getting on your high horse for no reason:

Article written about the cyclist : "in collision with" is neutral as to
cause. Was hit by, presumes car's fault, collided with presumes riders
fault. In collision with is neutral.

Jounalists always write such stories from a personal interest perspective.
The completely neutral "The was a collision between cyclist and car in which
the cyclist was killed" is impersonal and comp[letely neutral but is bad and
boring journalism.

Would you care to suggest a rewrite of the piece that meets your criteria?



pk

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:39:18 +0000 (UTC), p.k. wrote:

wafflycat wrote:
Yet again the EDP are at it.

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/...A15%3A56%3A187

"Woman cyclist dies in A47 crash

24 December 2005 16:14

SWAFFHAM: An elderly woman died on Christmas Eve on the A47. The
woman was cycling on the single-lane carriageway towards King's Lynn
when her bike was in collision with a black Citroen car at about
11.50am. It is understood she had just joined the A47 from the
Swaffham junction, a few metres from where the bypass duals."

One never but never reads in the EDP that a car is in collision with a
bike... always those pesky cyclists or bikes doing the colliding..

BAH!

helen s



Article written about the cyclist : "in collision with" is neutral as to
cause. Was hit by, presumes car's fault, collided with presumes riders
fault. In collision with is neutral.

Jounalists always write such stories from a personal interest perspective.
The completely neutral "The was a collision between cyclist and car in which
the cyclist was killed" is impersonal and comp[letely neutral but is bad and
boring journalism.


Yes, I agree with you completely, leave the allocation of blame to the
court not the newspaper.


--
Michael MacClancy

"p.k." wrote in message
...
wafflycat wrote:
Yet again the EDP are at it.

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/...A15%3A56%3A187

"Woman cyclist dies in A47 crash

24 December 2005 16:14

SWAFFHAM: An elderly woman died on Christmas Eve on the A47. The
woman was cycling on the single-lane carriageway towards King's Lynn
when her bike was in collision with a black Citroen car at about
11.50am. It is understood she had just joined the A47 from the
Swaffham junction, a few metres from where the bypass duals."

One never but never reads in the EDP that a car is in collision with a
bike... always those pesky cyclists or bikes doing the colliding..

BAH!

helen s

once again you are getting on your high horse for no reason:

Article written about the cyclist : "in collision with" is neutral as to
cause. Was hit by, presumes car's fault, collided with presumes riders
fault. In collision with is neutral.
"
Jounalists always write such stories from a personal interest perspective.
The completely neutral "The was a collision between cyclist and car in
which the cyclist was killed" is impersonal and comp[letely neutral but is
bad and boring journalism.

Would you care to suggest a rewrite of the piece that meets your criteria?



pk

Then why isn't the "neutral" wording the other way round -- that "a car
was in collision with a cycle"

Sorry but it just isn't neutral at all it clearly directs one way or the
other. Don't talk twaddle!

--
Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire,
England, United Kingdom.
Remove PSANTISPAM to reply

Pinky wrote:

Then why isn't the "neutral" wording the other way round -- that "a
car was in collision with a cycle"

Sorry but it just isn't neutral at all it clearly directs one way or
the other. Don't talk twaddle!

The article was about the lady. To switch subject and objects around would
have been bad English and bad journalism.

pk

wafflycat wrote on Monday 26 December 2005 19:17:

I don't think it's overt car-centric bias on the part of the
journos, but the bias is certainly implied in their choice of words.
And that's what I find so exasperating about the language used.


"A car and a bicycle were in collision" would, IMHO, have been neutral
reporting.
--
Regards
Alex
The From address above is a spam-trap.
The Reply-To address is valid

Helen Deborah Vecht whizzed past me shouting
I had to laugh at the 'Motorist dies in tree collision' headline on the
BBC Dorset website yesterday. It conjured up a rather surreal mental
image...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/4558146.stm


Ouch! Losing that much bark must've hurt!

--
Sue ];(

Bicycle helmets are really a bit of a scam.
They make most cyclists slightly less safe but there's money in selling them.