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Old September 4th 06, 06:14 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

CanopyCo wrote:
Mike Vandeman wrote:

More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???

Mike



He died of a heart attack.
That can happen during any kind of exercise.
I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
exercise.


Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
That will not help your cause.


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  #12  
Old September 4th 06, 06:29 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:45:21 GMT, Michael Halliwell
wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:34:22 -0400, pmhilton wrote:



Artoi wrote:


In article ,
Mike Vandeman wrote:




More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???



If one does not mountain bike, perhaps, one will not die?



Yes, he would probably still be alive.



Thank you Dr. Vandeman, MD, for your expert medical opinion.....be
certain to let the Colorado M. E. know about it...I'm sure he'd be
clueless otherwise. Now you're certain it wasn't the running of
marathons? Or the love of french and italian cuisine? Or an underlying
medical condition? And please, for the rest of us poor medical
laypersons, detail the signs, symptoms and general progression of this
horrible disease that apparently you are so medically qualified to
diagnose that you can assess it as the cause of death from a newspaper
clipping and not have to examine the remains.


Why do YOU think he died? I notice that you decline to say, because
you'd then have to admit that the mountain biking was the ost likely
cause of his death. It's OBVIOUS!

Michael Halliwell

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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old September 4th 06, 06:31 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:12:14 GMT, Artoi wrote:

In article ,
Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:55:06 GMT, Artoi wrote:

In article ,
Mike Vandeman wrote:

More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???

Mike

Hate these sensationalistic, unhelpful and unscientific conclusions.


You mean you hate hearing the truth? Because that's all I wrote. If
you want science, SUPPLY some, instead of just criticizing. (Of course
that means REAL science, not IMBA-style JUNK science.)


From a population's point of view, exercise is good and important.
That's a fact and not worth disputing. But taking it on an individual's
basis, one's preexisting condition may not be compatible with current
exercise regime. The net benefit is there,


Simply asserting that doesn't make it true. Prove that there is a NET
benefit from mountain biking (that couldn't be gotten by hiking or
other exercise)! You CAN'T. That's because mountain biking is one of
the most dangerous activities. People die or get seriously injured
from it all the time.

but it's bad form to use a
single person's adverse event to scaremonger exercise/biking in general.

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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old September 4th 06, 06:33 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

On 4 Sep 2006 07:05:10 -0700, "CanopyCo" wrote:


Mike Vandeman wrote:
More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???

Mike


He died of a heart attack.
That can happen during any kind of exercise.


But it didn't. He didn't die from running marathons. He died from
MOUNTAIN BIKING. Face the facts!

I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
exercise.

Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
That will not help your cause.

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #15  
Old September 4th 06, 06:40 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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I heard that Marina City Councilman Ken Gray has been trying to give
Fort Ord land (promised for Fort Ord Dunes State Park near Monterey,
CA) to the town of Seaside, for private development, via a back room
deal. Does anyone know any more about this? If true, this is a pretty
reprehensible abuse of public lands.
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old September 4th 06, 07:21 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

Mike Vandeman wrote:
It's OBVIOUS!


Your opinion that a given conclusion is obvious is very nearly worthless
as an assumption uless some form of mental rigor is brought to bear. In
this instance, you have brought nothing to the discussion but a single
hastily formed opinion. Make all the claims you wish. In support of that
opinion you must offer objective data & logically sound reasoning. You
have offered neither.

Seems to me this fundamental lack, along with your monomaniacle
androgeny has been mentioned hundreds of times by scores of posters.

PH

  #17  
Old September 4th 06, 07:25 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

Mike Vandeman wrote:


But it didn't. He didn't die from running marathons. He died from
MOUNTAIN BIKING. Face the facts!



Even though he died DURING mountain biking, there is no proof that he
died FROM mountain biking. Many THOUSANDS of individuals engage in all
levels of mountain biking; while a handful may have died DURING that
activity there is no proof that the activity itself was to blame.

PH

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Old September 4th 06, 10:11 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
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On 4 Sep 2006 07:05:10 -0700, "CanopyCo" wrote:


Mike Vandeman wrote:
More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???

Mike


He died of a heart attack.
That can happen during any kind of exercise.


But it didn't. He didn't die from running marathons. He died from
MOUNTAIN BIKING. Face the facts!

I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
exercise.

Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
That will not help your cause.

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


mv stoops to even lower levels to try and justify his phobic
ranting....Still a sad old vindictive ****** I see, mikey.

Andy H


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Old September 4th 06, 10:53 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Artoi
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

In article ,
Mike Vandeman wrote:

Simply asserting that doesn't make it true. Prove that there is a NET
benefit from mountain biking (that couldn't be gotten by hiking or
other exercise)! You CAN'T. That's because mountain biking is one of
the most dangerous activities. People die or get seriously injured
from it all the time.


He didn't die of specific mountain biking related activity but an
intrinsic cause. He could have died the same way if he sat there and
found out his share portfolio just crashed 90%.
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Old September 4th 06, 10:57 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Artoi
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Default 58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!

In article .com,
"CanopyCo" wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???


He died of a heart attack.
That can happen during any kind of exercise.
I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
exercise.

Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
That will not help your cause.


Correct, or even acute mental stress just sitting at a desk can start a
so called heart attack.
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