"Humans 'very likely' making earth warmer" is wrong

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
donquijote1954
desperately attempted to bull**** its way out of its
predicament and fooled absolutely no one, as always.

(Don Klipstein) wrote:

In article , Mark Hickey wrote:
(Brent P) wrote:

But it isn't about the environment, it's about power, control, and
wealth.

Couldn't agree more. And that applies at the individual level as well
- look at the funding spent on pro-global warming, and then contrast
the money spent on contrarian studies. No contest - you simply can't
get rich telling people that there's no lurking invisible monster
about to eat the earth, it seems.

Oh, those that make money in ways threatened by addressing of global
warming sure have a lot to lose and are putting money into generation of
data or "data" that we don't have a problem! For one example, I remember
something maybe about a decade ago by a major oil company saying how the
temperature has not significantly warmed at some level a few miles aloft,
which I expect to not warm up as much as the surface and lowest couple
miles of the atmosphere would as a result of adding "greenhouse gases".

I believe what you're talking about was the NOAA data that was used to
exclude the urban heat centers (relying on mid-level atmospheric
temperatures, which would obviously also have to go up in the event
there was a true global warming scenario underway). The fact that the
alarmists have to use selective and incomplete data to support their
claims tells you all you really need to know. The fact they've
singled out CO2 as the culprit just shows that they count on the
masses not having done any reading on the subject (which is probably a
safe assumption).

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

.... arent' scared to use their real name when they put forth an
opinion.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

"donquijote1954" wrote:

Can Humanity Survive? Want to Bet on It?
Sixty ago years, a group of physicists concerned about nuclear weapons
created the Doomsday Clock and set its hands at seven minutes to
midnight. Now, the clock's keepers, alarmed by new dangers like
climate change, have moved the hands up to 11:55 p.m.

So one minute = 30 years on the "doomsday clock". That means by your
logic we only have 150 years to go before extinction. Since
implementing all the Kyoto protocol is only gonna make a small
fraction of a degree difference in the temperature (if that) in the
next century and half anyway, I guess the best thing to do is just
give up and wait patiently for the end to come.

Guess that means you're not planning on reproducing and exposing your
offspring to the inescapable terrors of the next 150 years, right?
Just as well - chicks don't dig guys who are scared by Chicken Little
anyway.

Mark "assuming the anonymous person is male" Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

On Feb 3, 1:52 pm, "Rod Speed" wrote:
Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
donquijote1954
desperately attempted to bull**** its way out of its
predicament and fooled absolutely no one, as always.

You eat a lot of "Freedom Fries" I gather. You may also try this...

1: Proudly display your flag. 2: If you don't own a flag, buy ten. 3:
If you do own a flag but haven't displayed it for some time for fear
of incurring the wrath of your hippie neighbor, have it dry-cleaned
and pressed at a non-Chinese shop. 4: Count the flag's stars, and
imagine how much more symmetrical it'd be without Massachusetts'. 5:
While justifiably admiring your flag, if it touches the ground burn it
immediately, and replace it with a bigger one. 6: Replace that
Canadian flag patch sewn onto your backpack with a superior American
one, then go sight-seeing in Paris. 7: Paint your bedroom ceiling with
an image of Old Glory, so that your dreams may be filled with more
virtuous thoughts. 8: Stock your linen closet with Ralph Lauren "flag
towels"...the better to wrap yourself in! 9: Salute every flag you pass,
and if feasible, kiss it (closed mouth, you devil!) 10: Impress your
guests with stars-and-stripes coasters, but only use if your serving
domestic beer or wine. 11: Have you heard that "Uncle Sam" hats are
this year's black? 12: Sing "the Star-Spangled Banner" in the shower.
13: Make it your cell phone's ring tone. 14: And your door bell chime!
15: Consider naming you born-on-the-fourth-of-July newborn "Francis
Scott Key," because no one would ever mess with a kid named Francis.
16: Or George Walker! 17: Or, even better, Rex!
18: Make Spurious George your home page. 19: If Blogger's down, make
TBR your home page (but only on Saturdays!) 20: Stop getting your
"news" from the net (except, of course, from Spurious George.) 21:
Ignore the mainstream media. 22: Burn Dan Rather in effigy. 23: Build
a backyard shrine to Ann Coulter. 24: And a smaller one for Sean
Hannity. 25: Maybe say a small payer for Armstrong Williams. 26: Start
watching Fox News. 27: Be more fair and balanced...like Fox News! 28:
Stop paying attention. 29: Obey. 30: Stop making Viagra jokes about
Rush. 31: Purchase an "AM Only" radio. 32: Throw away your Dixie
Chicks CDs. 33: Better yet, burn them. Even better, throw your burning
CDs at the Dixie Chicks. 34: Especially that uppity bitch Natalie
Maines. 35: Put "The Best of Lee Greenwood" on an endless loop. 36: At
least until "The Best of Rex Kramer" goes on sale. 37: Check for it
daily at you local Christian book store. 38: Or Wal-Mart. 39: Happily
hand over that $24.99.

more and check the chicks on the supersized SUV...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...Den%26 sa%3DG

donquijote1954 wrote:

A typical 25 watt fluorescent light
bulb, which replaces a 100 watt incandescent bulb, will last 8 hours
on 200 watts worth of power. LEDs (light emitting diodes) are even
more efficient and will last days on 200 watts worth of power."

No, LEDs are *not* more efficient.

Nor will most humans be able to generate a continuous 200W. That's 1/4 horse power FFS !

If that's their sales spiel then I don't think much of them.

Graham

On Feb 3, 2:17 pm, Mark Hickey wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote:
Can Humanity Survive? Want to Bet on It?
Sixty ago years, a group of physicists concerned about nuclear weapons
created the Doomsday Clock and set its hands at seven minutes to
midnight. Now, the clock's keepers, alarmed by new dangers like
climate change, have moved the hands up to 11:55 p.m.

So one minute = 30 years on the "doomsday clock". That means by your
logic we only have 150 years to go before extinction. Since
implementing all the Kyoto protocol is only gonna make a small
fraction of a degree difference in the temperature (if that) in the
next century and half anyway, I guess the best thing to do is just
give up and wait patiently for the end to come.

"over the next three to four decades climate change could cause
irremediable harm"

It's 30 to 40 years, so you or your children will feel it. Then they
would spit on your tomb --and possibly pee on it.

Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Adjusts Clock From 7 to 5 Minutes
Before Midnight; " Deteriorating" Global Situation Cited on Nuclear
Weapons and New Factor: Climate Change.

WASHINGTON, D.C. and LONDON, ENGLAND /// January 17, 2007 /// The
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (BAS) is moving the minute hand of
the Doomsday Clock two minutes closer to midnight. It is now 5 minutes
to midnight. Reflecting global failures to solve the problems posed by
nuclear weapons and the climate crisis, the decision by the BAS Board
of Directors was made in consultation with the Bulletin's Board of
Sponsors, which includes 18 Nobel Laureates.

....

The BAS statement continues: "The dangers posed by climate change are
nearly as dire as those posed by nuclear weapons. The effects may be
less dramatic in the short term than the destruction that could be
wrought by nuclear explosions, but over the next three to four decades
climate change could cause irremediable harm to the habitats upon
which human societies depend for survival."

Stephen Hawking, a BAS sponsor, professor of mathematics at the
University of Cambridge, and a fellow of The Royal Society, said: "As
scientists, we understand the dangers of nuclear weapons and their
devastating effects, and we are learning how human activities and
technologies are affecting climate systems in ways that may forever
change life on Earth. As citizens of the world, we have a duty to
alert the public to the unnecessary risks that we live with every day,
and to the perils we foresee if governments and societies do not take
action now to render nuclear weapons obsolete and to prevent further
climate change."

http://www.thebulletin.org/weekly-hi.../20070117.html

Wayne Pein wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:

Wayne Pein wrote:

Further, bus public transit is heavy and destroys the pavement,
something that is very important to bicyclists. And when the bus pulls
over to the curb, there is conflict with bicyclists.

Frankly, public transportation and bicycling have nothing in common.
Bicycling has much more in common with automobile travel.

http://www.bts.gov/publications/nati...atistics/2004/
html/table_04_20.html

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehicles...t_fotw221.html



No way. Buses with racks go a long way for bicyclists who just use the
bikes for shorter distances. They are complementary...

So, the 2 bicyclists that use the bus are still chauffered energy
users/polluters for their bus leg.

Wayne

No way. The buses are going to run either way, full or empty. The use of
a bus makes perfect sense when you consider that you can take one past
the most dangerous part of town and drop you at a safer location. Nobody
should be so into the bike that they willfully put their life in the
hands of motorist who could care less.
It's called 'Survival instinct'.
It's also nice to fall back when the weather opens up and wants to dump
on anyone caught in the open.
Bill Baka

donquijote1954 wrote:
On Feb 2, 5:12 pm, Bill Baka wrote:

BTW, I don't drink or use drugs, except for chocolate.

Chocolate is a fancy drug used by liberals given to European socialist
ideas of biking and small cars. Real Americans eat something like
Freedom Fries --and drive SUVs.

Hah,
They don't go into the bag very well for a long trip, and forget about a
'Big Mac'. I can travel a long way on chocolate power.
Give me chocolate and I will do almost anything (reasonable).
Bill Baka

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
donquijote1954
desperately attempted to bull**** its way out of its
predicament and fooled absolutely no one, as always.