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Old August 15th 07, 01:08 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,uk.rec.cycling
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote in message
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"still me" wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:52:55 -0400, RonSonic
wrote:

The Democrats can continue to run against Bush, and probably will, but
inasmuch
as he won't be the other name on the ballot it'll be largely wasted.
Most of that candidates on the Rep side endorse most of his positions.
So, running against him will work as a strategy.
I actually
consider Hillary to be a significant and substantial candidate - a bit
short in
the personal charm department maybe but a far more serious person than
the last
two stuffed senatorial shirts they trotted out. Unfortunately for her
she will
likely come out of this insanely long primary having adopted enough
leftish
coloration to leave her unelectable by the general public.
She brings all of Bill's baggage with her. His positives only help
with the core audience. She might gain some women's votes but she
loses those who would never vote for a women. I think she's a loser.
Southerner would help, anybody from the Midwest wouldn't hurt, and I
mean the
real midwest where they still have some factories and railyards and
cows, not
Chicago.
They need a real Southerner. I don't think Hillary qualifies. They
don't seem to understand that the South has finally gotten over it's
Lincoln era "we're not Republicans" bias and now votes Republican.
They keep getting alliances with union officials and think that's the
same as having the union vote and it isn't the same thing at all. Even
now there
aren't enough government workers for that to succeed. Over the decades
the
Republican party has evolved into a creature that feeds on New England
liberals.
Or looking at it the other way - the Dem's haven't yet figured out
that a Northern Liberal is not going to win. Advantage Republicans....

On the other hand, maybe many of the blue collar evangelicals have started
to figure out that not only are they screwing themselves economically by
voting Republican, but the Republicans have only paid lip services to
their social agenda. They may just decide to stay home at election time.

The Republicans have to deal with the fact that they have dominated
national politics for a quarter century, had most of the economic agenda
implemented, yet only those who were rich before hand are doing better.
Even though the corporate media is dominated by pundits that bleat the
regressive economic case, people will still look at their own lives and
see that things are not going right for them.


Well, I have not had to step over any dead bodies lying in the streets
lately, so that is a good sign. I wonder why it is that all the rest of the
world wants to come to America if the working poor are so god damn poor!


The US (and to lesser but still significant extent, Europe) has used its
military and economic power to increase poverty in countries primarily
inhabited by darker skinned people.

Do you notice many Western Europeans wanting to come to the US, besides
the odd laissez-faire capitalist? Despite a lower per capita GNP, the
lower and middle classes are much better off.

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Old August 15th 07, 05:02 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,uk.rec.cycling
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still me? wrote:
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I'd tell you about your third problem but the second one is already
preventing you from recognizing the first, so there's little point to
continuing.


butbutbut, the rest of us are curious!

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Old August 15th 07, 05:47 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc,uk.rec.cycling
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still me wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:33:23 -0700, "Bill Sornson"
wrote:

You really come across as a social class bigot.


Just ask yourself how well "your way" is working in places like New
Orleans. Dependency ain't cutting it; time to try empowerment based
on personal responsibility coupled with opportunity. Only one
problem with that: Dems will not keep getting elected if this
occurs.

Get a clue.


I have a clue. Your first problem is that you assume anyone who
opposes that a-hole of a President and his crony neo-con fascists who
are selling us down a river is a Democrat. Your second problem is that
you are the definition of the brainwashed masses that the neo's are
pulling along like lemmings.

I'd tell you about your third problem but the second one is already
preventing you from recognizing the first, so there's little point to
continuing.


Nonsequitur much? LOL

Bill "oh, and Flogger wants to know who you really are" S.


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Old August 15th 07, 05:51 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc
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"still me" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:52:40 -0500, "Keats" wrote:

"Avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. First, graduate from
high
school. Second, get married before you have children, and stay married.
Third, work at any kind of job, even one that starts out paying the
minimum
wage. And, finally, avoid engaging in criminal behavior. If you graduate
from high school today with a B or C average, in most places in our
country
there's a low-cost or financially assisted post-high-school education
program available to increase your skills.


Statistically this is true. Obviously avoiding poverty are choices best
made early in life. Obviously, you can't let yourself be sucked into
victimhood by those whose self interest it is to have you in poverty so
they
can be your poverty pimp, or have you in their voter constituency, or
just
feel good about themselves such as some social workers and other non-
helpful do-gooders. The choices to not be poor come easy and natural for
most people brought up in a non-poverty family, but if you are born into
poverty you will most likely need outside influence to get you off the
poverty track in as much as there are powerful forces working from within
to keep you in place.


Nice theory, but it doesn't wash. I'm no fan of endless, wasteful
social programs, but the very people promoting the financial
assistance programs you cite are the Democrats - who you accuse of
having some farfetched conspiracy to keep people in poverty.

Logic just defeated you.


Can you point me to any congressional democrat promoting the Bush
administration's Department of Education? Most of them seem to be like
you - never uttering a positive word.

As Walter Williams said avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science.
Graduate from high school. Get married before you have children and stay
married. Get a job and increase your skills. Don't be a criminal. Nothing
too complicated there, eh? Find me a democrat saying these things and I'll
show you a extraordinarily good democrat. But unfortunately this language
isn't part of their talking points or of your own thoughts and speech.

Keats


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Old August 16th 07, 05:13 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc
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"still me" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:51:41 -0500, "Keats" wrote:

Can you point me to any congressional democrat promoting the Bush
administration's Department of Education? Most of them seem to be like
you - never uttering a positive word.


Don't assume people are Democrats just because they can objectively
recognize that Bush is a neo fascist, neo con moron puppet without a
clue who has caused great harm to the USA that will take decades to
repair.

I haven't seen any talk from either party about education. Bush has
his "no child left behind" but I haven't seem anyone except him hyping
that. In addition, the only hype I've seen out of that is the
ill-designed concept of standardized testing. That just leads to
standardized education and teaching to the test. The fact that some
urban school systems are failing should not be used to penalize and
handicap suburban school systems that work - but that's the effect of
standardized testing.



Why do I have the strong feeling that you belong to a teachers union?



As Walter Williams said avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science.
Graduate from high school. Get married before you have children and stay
married. Get a job and increase your skills. Don't be a criminal.
Nothing
too complicated there, eh? Find me a democrat saying these things and
I'll
show you a extraordinarily good democrat. But unfortunately this language
isn't part of their talking points or of your own thoughts and speech.




You left out the part about "take a job, any job, at minimum wage"
(paraphrased) from your earlier post. That is a prescription for life
long poverty.


I didn't know that a kid taking a minimum wage job also got a prescription
for life long poverty, but that could certainly explain why democrats and
other liberals are so determined to perpetuate the minimum wage system.


 




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