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Old August 20th 07, 09:58 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Keats
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In article .com,
writes:

Pretty much sums it up, imo. Thanks Tom.


Well, yeah. So many people wanna make riding bike
into a big deal. A bigger deal than it natuarally is.

It's kind of like multicuturalism. That always existed
here in East Vancouver, on its own accord. Then the
Federal Gov't (under Lester B. Pearson) decided to
legislate it & take credit for it, and make it
Official Policy.


Y'see, gov'ts check-out what happens, and then they
butt-in and take the credit.


"But when The Lord
gets ready,
you gotta move."

-- (Miss'ippi) Fred McDowell
(my beloved mentor & Spiritual Guide.)
Him, 'n Jimmy Reed.

Actually, me 'n Jimmy hang, 'n party together.
Fred gets disgusted, and wags his finger at
us, telling us that we're going to hell.

I hope Kinsey Report plays there. But I
hate places with red lights, red upholtstery,
red carpets, red everything. Ugh.

Hell is too red, and heaven is too alice-blue &
white. We need a place with some Hawaiian shirt
colours in it.


Y'know what? Mick Jagger is one of the
best blues harpists going. Even up there
with Sonny Boy Williamson II, or Corky Siegal.


--
I've got a room with a view of The Blues.





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Old August 21st 07, 06:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.tech
William O'Hara
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in
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Per William O'Hara:
I do not. Remember cars can not pass you if they do not have reasonable
room. They will have to wait.


Was that written tongue-in-cheek?


No. You can not pass if you do not have reasonable room.

I would like Massachusetts to officially determine the distance by statute
as Maine has done. It should be at least four feet.

People pass me with 2" after forcing me onto the White line or the edge.

I ride in a lot of places without any shoulder or anything past the travel
lane. Most of Massachusetts roads are substandard. Motorists complain
about the overwhelming lack of maintenance for Route 138, but most roads in
general have insufficient subroadbed in terms of depth and width. Travel
lanes are too narrow. The biggest evidence is the premature failure of the
hard top on the sides of the road.

Bicyclists have it tough when people can't wait.

Think about a bike going 20mph and some knucle has to pass the bicycle at
30 mph. How much time saving was acheived by the motorist? There are so
many places on my local routes that do not have passing room and are only
30mph for the maxium speed limit.

Massachusetts have a horrible driving culture representative of me first
generation and poor roads.

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  #83  
Old August 21st 07, 06:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.tech
William O'Hara
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!Jones wrote in news14hc3p81c8njicbpi9jhuemfgff383ult@
4ax.com:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:16:34 -0500, in rec.bicycles.tech "William
O'Hara" wrote:

People also treat horses with more respect. They don't rush to pass the
Horse and turn right in front of them like they do in Boston or the
suburbs.


The world is full of rude, inconsiderate people. These people will be
found in cars, boats, driving busses and trucks, and (yes, it's true)
riding bicycles. Bicycle lanes are a good investment in a city's
infrastructure and I support their construction wholeheartedly;
however, if a rider is careless and complacent, then he or she will
probably meet the fender of a similar driver.

Consider what the hikers and equestrians say about the people on
"mountain" bicycles. How do you feel about trails being closed to
bicycles as more and more are doing?

I tend to agree with you. I'd just point out that it cuts both ways.


I tend to think that bicycle lanes should be closed only to bicycles.

I also have noticed for a long time that people complain about mountain
bikers around here, but there is heavy damage from ATV instead.

They complain at Ames Nowell and Wompatuck, where it is illegal ATV instead
of the mountain bike.

The aggitators in California are crazy and the placement of piano wire
should be evidence to you that the mountain bikers are not of wild bunch
that many suggest.

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Old August 21st 07, 10:48 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.tech
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Per William O'Hara:
No. You can not pass if you do not have reasonable room.


To indulge in some semantic pedantry.... Drivers *may* not pass
without reasonable room (i.e. "May" implying permission). But
they *can* pass any time/any way they please ("Can" implying
ability).

I say that because I know for sure that there are people out
there who will just plain hit you with their vehicle because
they're angry at you - and get away with it. I've seen it done
in Philadelphia.
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