The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:02:25 -0700
Subject: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

The best recommended comment from the story about Kelowna's illegal
mtb courses. The truth. It happens here, too -- not just in the USA
and California, etc., like the Mayor likes to remind me. This guy,
"Joe Public", could not have stated it better:

"I was the live-in caretaker on Knox Mountain for two years. This is a
city park and not a mountain bike course and the problem lies
completely with the mentality of the mountain bikers. The city parks
department went to great lengths to allow and accomodate mountain
bikers within the park by discussing needs with mountain bikers and by
creating authorised trails for them to use.

The problem is that most mountain bikers want to do what they want and
go where they want to go. They do not like to follow trails or remain
is selected areas, they like to create trails and jumps, and they are
destroying the park in the process.

I have personally spoken to several "leaders" of local mountain bike
clubs and several owners of local mountain bike stores. Up front they
claim to be supportive of the park rules, yet when they think that no
one is watching, they lead groups of riders down pristine park fields,
creating new trails which will continue to erode for decades, or they
sneak into the park after hours to ride with headlamps.

When approached on unauthorised trails, university educated riders
claim to have not seen the signs and curiously, the next time you
catch them on the same unauthorised trails, the signs have all been
knocked down. These same "leaders" were asked to form work crews to
repair the destruction of the city parks, yet not one rider cared
enough to show up. The rampant lack of respect for Kelowna's parks by
the mountain biking community is the main reason why I did not renew
my contract within the park.

Over the course of 6 years, the mountain biking community of Kelowna
has shown no concern for the park itself, and as such and for the sake
of the park, should be banned completely. It will take 20 years to
repair the damage of their unauthorised rides.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

snip!!!!

You are qualified in no way, shape or form to comment on anything. This is
because you have demonstrated time and again that you are senile and
demented.

Be careful or the sanitorium may revoke your computer privileges.

On Jun 19, 11:58*pm, "Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus"
wrote:
snip!!!!

You are qualified in no way, shape or form to comment on anything. This is
because you have demonstrated time and again that you are senile and
demented.

Be careful or the sanitorium may revoke your computer privileges.

Don't forget the fact he is sociopathic and malignant personality
disorder...he's a crackpot!

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:58:28 -0600, "Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus"
wrote:

snip!!!!

You are qualified in no way, shape or form to comment on anything. This is
because you have demonstrated time and again that you are senile and
demented.

Be careful or the sanitorium may revoke your computer privileges.

Talking to yourself? Learn how to post a reply.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Snip, again.

What would possess anyone to repost your drivel? One only has to see that
you sent the post to know there is nothing worthwhile in it, so keeping it
in a reply is a waste of bandwidth. Pretty much like you are a waste of skin
and natural resources.

BTW, you replied.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:58:52 -0600, "Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus"
wrote:

Snip, again.

What would possess anyone to repost your drivel? One only has to see that
you sent the post to know there is nothing worthwhile in it, so keeping it
in a reply is a waste of bandwidth. Pretty much like you are a waste of skin
and natural resources.

BTW, you replied.

Whom are you talking to? Yourself?
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:58:52 -0600, "Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus"
wrote:

Snip, again.

What would possess anyone to repost your drivel? One only has to see that
you sent the post to know there is nothing worthwhile in it, so keeping it
in a reply is a waste of bandwidth. Pretty much like you are a waste of
skin
and natural resources.

BTW, you replied.

Whom are you talking to? Yourself?


You seem to be the only one confused about whom he is speaking to. The rest
of us figured it out before you pointed out his mistake.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:05:57 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:58:52 -0600, "Ist-e Mundus, Furia bundus"
wrote:

Snip, again.

What would possess anyone to repost your drivel? One only has to see that
you sent the post to know there is nothing worthwhile in it, so keeping it
in a reply is a waste of bandwidth. Pretty much like you are a waste of
skin
and natural resources.

BTW, you replied.

Whom are you talking to? Yourself?


You seem to be the only one confused about whom he is speaking to. The rest
of us figured it out before you pointed out his mistake.

No, you only IMAGINED that you figured it out. Just like you IMAGINED
that you aren't a moron.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
news

Whom are you talking to? Yourself?


You seem to be the only one confused about whom he is speaking to. The
rest
of us figured it out before you pointed out his mistake.

No, you only IMAGINED that you figured it out. Just like you IMAGINED
that you aren't a moron.


I know I'm not a moron, you are questionable. No, we know you are a moron,
there's no question.

No, you only IMAGINED that you figured it out. Just like you IMAGINED
that you aren't a moron.



Would that be the same as you imagining you wrote a book, remember you
did state this previously...yet no evidence produced.

Or that you imagine yourself to be some great important martyr for
"the cause" while working for a company that rapes the environment in
the name of technology.

Or that you imagined you didn't fly to australia...but state you
walked to the airport...yet never admit to flying in the first
place...

Or like you imagine every time you post that picture of Mike VandeRman
running beside the bike, you try and claim that physical specimen as
you when everyone knows it isn' even close...

You malignant being.