Vancouver police officer dies while mountain biking in Columbia Gorge

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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Mike Vandeman says...

So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike

SNIP

So much for the alleged health benefits of any activity!

Normal mountain biking on a hiking trail will get you killed. Normal
hiking on a hiking trail will not.


Normal hiking on a mountain biking trail is not for you either.

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Mike Vandeman says...

So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike

SNIP

So much for the alleged health benefits of any activity!

Normal mountain biking on a hiking trail will get you killed. Normal
hiking on a hiking trail will not.


Normal hiking on a mountain biking trail is not for you either.

Mountain bikers need their own trails. They should never be on a hiking
trail.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike


Poor ******* ran into an envirowhacko with a saw.

The only *******s I know about are the criminal idiot mountain bikers.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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Bill Weir says...

On Aug 4, 4:24=A0pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike

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Bill:

I think perhaps we should be a bit kinder to our friend Mikey.

It's very rare that an insignificant nobody is able to impact the way words are
used to communicate ideas. Rodney King, for example, did so with his impassioned
question, "Why can't we all just get along?".

Now Mikey has given a whole new meaning to the phrase, "I saw you".

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Mike Vandeman says...

So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike

SNIP

So much for the alleged health benefits of any activity!

Normal mountain biking on a hiking trail will get you killed. Normal
hiking on a hiking trail will not.


Normal hiking on a mountain biking trail is not for you either.



It's fine for me because I pay attention to the other users on the trail.

But, no matter, YOU said that biking on a hiking trail is dangerous for the
biker. I just wanted to point out that hiking on a biking trail has its
dangers too.

You tend to hile wherever you want, and demand that where you want to hike
be preserved for hikers, but the reality is that you hike on biking trails
and should, as a result, be careful.

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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
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So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike


Poor ******* ran into an envirowhacko with a saw.

The only *******s I know about are the criminal idiot mountain bikers.


That's a lie, Ed. You are well acquainted with an envirowhacko that is known
(arrested for) carrying a saw on a trail, then using the saw to criminally
assault the trail users he encountered. Michael J.Vandeman is a CRIMINAL.
And he's an idiot. That makes him a criminal idiot, and you are well
acquainted with him.

Maybe you should have pursued a woman instead of buryhing your head into
books all of your life. Maybe you would understand the falicy of your
position. No, probably not.

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Mike Vandeman says...

So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike

SNIP

So much for the alleged health benefits of any activity!

Normal mountain biking on a hiking trail will get you killed. Normal
hiking on a hiking trail will not.

Jeff:

Have you noticed how those who wish to propagate anti-biking propaganda tend to
ignore reality?

For examples, anyone who claims hiking offers no risk has obviously not read Lee
Whittlesley's (NPS Yellowstone Park Historian) book, "Death in Yellowstone".

There are also the examples of the child, walking the hiking trail with her
parents from Bownam Bay to Riasrio Beach (in Washington State), who was killed
by a falling limb from a dead tree; or the hiker (again on a routine hiking
trail) killed a couple weeks ago in the North Cascades by falling rocks.


Normal hiking on a mountain biking trail is not for you either.



It's fine for me because I pay attention to the other users on the trail.

But, no matter, YOU said that biking on a hiking trail is dangerous for the
biker. I just wanted to point out that hiking on a biking trail has its
dangers too.

You tend to hile wherever you want,

Jeff:

Shame on you for your Nazi reference to anti-bikers. :-)

and demand that where you want to hike be preserved for hikers,
but the reality is that you hike on biking trails and should,
as a result, be careful.

In rec.bicycles.soc Edward Dolan wrote:

"Bob Berger" wrote in message
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In article
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Mike Vandeman says...

So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike

SNIP

So much for the alleged health benefits of any activity!

Normal mountain biking on a hiking trail will get you killed.

Or at least attacked with a saw.

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"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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Normal mountain biking on a hiking trail will get you killed. Normal
hiking on a hiking trail will not.


Normal hiking on a mountain biking trail is not for you either.

It's fine for me because I pay attention to the other users on the trail.

It is the difficulties of cycling on an irregular trail itself that will get
you killed, not running into other users.

But, no matter, YOU said that biking on a hiking trail is dangerous for
the biker. I just wanted to point out that hiking on a biking trail has
its dangers too.

No sane hiker would be on a biking trail. If only the reverse were true.

You tend to hike wherever you want, and demand that where you want to hike
be preserved for hikers, but the reality is that you hike on biking trails
and should, as a result, be careful.

I wouldn't be caught dead on a biking trail. 99.99% of all trails are hiking
trails. The only biking trails I know about are the recently constructed
ones at mountain ski resorts like Aspen.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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In article
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Mike Vandeman says...

So much for the alleged health benefits of mountain biking!

Mike

SNIP

So much for the alleged health benefits of any activity!

Normal mountain biking on a hiking trail will get you killed. Normal
hiking on a hiking trail will not.

Jeff:

Have you noticed how those who wish to propagate anti-biking propaganda
tend to
ignore reality?

For examples, anyone who claims hiking offers no risk has obviously not
read Lee
Whittlesley's (NPS Yellowstone Park Historian) book, "Death in
Yellowstone".

I have read that book and it is a good read. The darndest things can happen,
no doubt about it at all.

There are also the examples of the child, walking the hiking trail with
her
parents from Bownam Bay to Riasrio Beach (in Washington State), who was
killed
by a falling limb from a dead tree; or the hiker (again on a routine
hiking
trail) killed a couple weeks ago in the North Cascades by falling rocks.

The examples you cite above are freak events. They do not relate to the
common accidents that moutain bikers suffer riding their bikes on hiking
trails. A mountain bike accident on a hiking trail is never a freak event.
It was just waiting to happen.

Mr. Vandeman posts relevant information on the dangers of normal mounain
biking on hiking trails; you post information caused by risky behavior and
now freak events. There is no comparison at all.
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Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota