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i love the anthropomorphism
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Diablo Scott wrote:
I've always seen coyotes on my rides around here. I was on the phone today, standing next to a giant abandoned gravel pit, and there were two at the bottom looking up at me wondering what I was going to do next. They usually just watch you go by, they usually aren't frightened, they usually don't run away, they usually hold their ground even though you come pretty close to them. Sometimes they'll run alongside you for a while, hoping you'll scare up a squirrel for them to catch. I've seen them easily chase down and catch jack rabbits. It's "Ko-yoats", btw. "Ky-yo-tees" is a TV thing. I've never been scared of them but their numbers are increasing and news stories from nearby say they're getting more aggressive too, feeding on cats and dogs, stalking children. I wonder what would happen in a bike-coyote collision - would the coyote run away in a panic? or attack in defense? Run away. Well, at least they're not mountain lions. Yes. They would chase you down and eat you. --Blair "Eddie Merckx with a tail." |
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psycholist wrote:
We have coyotes galore here in rural western South Carolina. The only time you see them is every now an then around sunset. I live on a golf course about 100 yards from open desert. The golf course is a natural haven and food source for jackrabbits, so on any given afternoon there are dozens of rabbits in view over my wall. Often in the middle of the night the coyotes will come upon a tardy rabbit and send out a feeding call. Two 'yotes can make a noise that sounds like dozens. But for the first few seconds, you think the alien spaceships are landing in your back yard. --Blair "Don't let the cat out." |
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Hunrobe wrote:
(MikeYankee) My biggest animal fear is having some stupid deer cross the road in front of me while I'm descending at 40 mph. While I agree with you completely I can't help but wonder- what if that deer decided to cross in front of you when you are *ascending* at 40 mph? g Then you wake up. --Blair "And stop calling yourself 'Lance'." |
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Rick Warner wrote:
News hype. Coyotes are smallish; a good male would be lucky to push 30 pounds, most are usually in the mid-20's in weight. Around here (Sonoran desert; South Mountain; Phoenix, Arizona) 20 lbs would be a puppy. I'd say the average adult would run about 40 lbs and the bigger ones are about 60. But there are a lot of rabbits and lizards in this neighborhood, so maybe they're just really well fed. I used to work as a field biologist, and believe me a coyote is not going to tangle with anything very big; they just are not that big or strong (saw one kill a deer once, but the deer had been hit by a car and was almost dead before the coyote got there). A hungry coyote might take out a small to medium sized cat or a small dog but nothing much bigger. I've had coyotes jog right past me on the golf course with barely a glance. I've also seen small packs (4-5 dogs) run across the street in my headlights. Not as innocuous as you think. (I've had the rabies series; you do not want it). Ignore the news hype; just do not hit any coyotes (easy enough to avoid them), As far as I can tell, they must share the same psychotic instinct as the smaller animals, and often run into the car rather than away from it. On your bike, you can probably stop before they have a chance to make contact. --Blair "And if not, you can make a nifty hat for those winter rides." |
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"David Reuteler" wrote in message ... Diablo Scott wrote: The recent news story is from the Silicon Valley area - large estates for wealthy people built in areas that were until recently undeveloped. Apparently a lot of the folks there put out food for feral cats and deer and that of course attracts the coyotes too. Lots of controversy over whether they should deal with the coyotes or the idiots. Actually, the Silicon Valley 'hot spot' for the current coyote controversy is about a half-mile from my house, and the media reports have been less than accurate. This area has been built up for over 65 years...not recent housing development. The issue is that _any_ effective control measures have been banned in recent years, and the coyote population has exploded. I often see them when riding along paths in the Santa Teresa hills, and twice recently have seen them in a pack of 8 to 10 merrily trotting down the street in front of my house. There has been considerable loss of small animals, and some stalking of humans but no actual attacks reported. The reports of people feeding deer and feral cats seem to come only from a animal protection group that is trying to ban any corrective measures, and I have not seen any evidence of this. I'm not particularly worried when I'm out riding, but I sure wouldn't want my grandchildren out of my sight in any of the local parks till this is resolved. Bill |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 05:31:58 GMT, Blair P. Houghton wrote:
Rick Warner wrote: News hype. Coyotes are smallish; a good male would be lucky to push 30 pounds, most are usually in the mid-20's in weight. Around here (Sonoran desert; South Mountain; Phoenix, Arizona) 20 lbs would be a puppy. I'd say the average adult would run about 40 lbs and the bigger ones are about 60. That is your perception, but it is incorrect. I worked, as a field biologist, in the Sonoran desert for years. Trapped many coyotes, weighed many coyotes, from the Mogollon rim down to the border with Mexico. 25 pounds is a big coyote in that area. There is a lot of fur, but not much substance. I've had coyotes jog right past me on the golf course with barely a glance. Right; you are not dinner, they know that and are looking for something they can eat. I've also seen small packs (4-5 dogs) run across the street in my headlights. Not as innocuous as you think. No, they are just as innocuous as I *know*, not think. Go back to my background. Spend years working with animals and you know a lot more than the urban myths and suppositions that seem to abound. The packs are probably family units, mother and children; for the most part coyotes are solitary and do not spend much time together except when mating or when the young are being taught the ropes by mom. They do not form regular packs like some of their cousins, e.g., gray wolves and African hunting dogs. (I've had the rabies series; you do not want it). Ignore the news hype; just do not hit any coyotes (easy enough to avoid them), As far as I can tell, they must share the same psychotic instinct as the smaller animals, and often run into the car rather than away from it. On your bike, you can probably stop before they have a chance to make contact. I've been within 10 feet of them at least a dozen times this year while on my bike. As soon as they realize I am there they make from the brush. - rick |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 05:31:58 GMT, Blair P. Houghton wrote:
Rick Warner wrote: News hype. Coyotes are smallish; a good male would be lucky to push 30 pounds, most are usually in the mid-20's in weight. Around here (Sonoran desert; South Mountain; Phoenix, Arizona) 20 lbs would be a puppy. I'd say the average adult would run about 40 lbs and the bigger ones are about 60. And if you do not want to believe me on the size of coyotes in the Sonoran desert, here is from the web page of ASDM (Arizona Sonora Desert Museum for those outside the area): "Coyote: A coyote resembles a medium-sized dog with a long, bushy black-tipped tail, big ears, and a pointy face. The fur color varies from grayish to light brown, with a buffy or white underbelly. You’ll never see a fat coyote in the wild. Wiry and with long, slender legs and small feet, a desert coyote usually weighs only 15 to 25 pounds. The tracks are much smaller than those of a domestic dog of the same size." - rick |
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Blair P. Houghton wrote:
|| Diablo Scott wrote: ||| I've always seen coyotes on my rides around here. || || I was on the phone today, standing next to a giant || abandoned gravel pit, and there were two at the bottom || looking up at me wondering what I was going to do next. || ||| They usually just ||| watch you go by, they usually aren't frightened, they usually don't ||| run away, they usually hold their ground even though you come ||| pretty close to them. Sometimes they'll run alongside you for a ||| while, hoping you'll scare up a squirrel for them to catch. I've ||| seen them easily chase down and catch jack rabbits. || || It's "Ko-yoats", btw. Interesting. |
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