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On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote:
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. Also, next to impossible when you want to access services for children if your kids are not vaccinated. But loud mouth ignorant morons l Step away from the mirror Tommy. |
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On 6/24/2020 8:29 PM, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. It's not a USA thing. Like so much else, it's a Tom's Imagination thing. From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...y-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. They do it because they want to. They know it's smart. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:41:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 6/24/2020 8:29 PM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. It's not a USA thing. Like so much else, it's a Tom's Imagination thing. From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...y-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. They do it because they want to. They know it's smart. Not to argue, but isn't there some sort of anti-vaccination movement? group? whatever? I keep reading articles about all the horrible things caused by vaccinations. (also I do find it strange that the individuals/groups that post these horror stories never seem to mention what could happen in an unvaccinated population :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:11:11 +0700, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:41:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/24/2020 8:29 PM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. It's not a USA thing. Like so much else, it's a Tom's Imagination thing. Thought so. From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...many-kids-are- completely-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. They do it because they want to. They know it's smart. Not to argue, but isn't there some sort of anti-vaccination movement? group? Yep, fruit looks. I keep reading articles about all the horrible things caused by vaccinations. Look at the dates and details. There have been some problems over the decades but miniscule in number and sadly some people do suffer sde effects of modern medicine, but in immmunisatio, th percentages are very small. (also I do find it strange that the individuals/groups that post these horror stories never seem to mention what could happen in an unvaccinated population :-) Some people need to learn the hard way and unfortunately their children suffer. |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 06:47:17 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:11:11 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:41:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/24/2020 8:29 PM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. It's not a USA thing. Like so much else, it's a Tom's Imagination thing. Thought so. From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...many-kids-are- completely-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. They do it because they want to. They know it's smart. Not to argue, but isn't there some sort of anti-vaccination movement? group? Yep, fruit looks. I keep reading articles about all the horrible things caused by vaccinations. Look at the dates and details. There have been some problems over the decades but miniscule in number and sadly some people do suffer sde effects of modern medicine, but in immmunisatio, th percentages are very small. Dates and details? They are current posts, or at least not from the dim and distant past. see http://dangersofvaccines.com/ https://www.stopmandatoryvaccination...ccine-dangers/ https://eraoflight.com/2017/09/12/th...rous-vaccines/ They are out there and they post on the Internet. Even from Australia http://www.vaccinedangers.com.au/ (also I do find it strange that the individuals/groups that post these horror stories never seem to mention what could happen in an unvaccinated population :-) Some people need to learn the hard way and unfortunately their children suffer. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:13:00 +0700, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 06:47:17 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:11:11 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:41:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/24/2020 8:29 PM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. It's not a USA thing. Like so much else, it's a Tom's Imagination thing. Thought so. From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...many-kids-are- completely-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. TheThe.Bank.Job. 2008.1080p.BluRay.x264.YIFY.mp4y do it because they want to. They know it's smart. Not to argue, but isn't there some sort of anti-vaccination movement? group? Yep, fruit looks. I keep reading articles about all the horrible things caused by vaccinations. Look at the dates and details. There have been some problems over the decades but miniscule in number and sadly some people do suffer sde effects of modern medicine, but in immmunisatio, th percentages are very small. Dates and details? This is what I look for when they pump their ****.I know of some adverse vaccination events and they are there if people people want to search. However, in general vaccination side effects are a non-event. If there are examples, these people are absolutely of no value, because they can never produce the data to back up their claims and allow for proper scientific investigation. and distant past. see http://dangersofvaccines.com/ https://www.stopmandatoryvaccination...ccine-dangers/ Sorry, that is clearly a croc of ****e site. Notice they are just pushing fud with no details. Details matter. |
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On 6/24/2020 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:41:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...y-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. They do it because they want to. They know it's smart. Not to argue, but isn't there some sort of anti-vaccination movement? group? whatever? I keep reading articles about all the horrible things caused by vaccinations. There are those idiots, but apparently they are few and generally ineffective. IIRC, there are some pockets of the country where those people have successfully raised the number of measles cases, but that's not widespread. And I'll add that those idiots tend to be left wing, not right wing. I wonder about weird alliances between left wing anti-vaxxers and right-wing anti-maskers. Speaking of vaccination side effects: About a week ago, I felt extremely fatigued despite a good night's sleep. I had absolutely zero energy, and in the afternoon I fell asleep in my recliner. I'm aware that fatigue is a COVID symptom, so I took my temperature a couple times. Eventually I found I had a fever. My doctor's staff said "Fatigue and fever? Get tested for COVID," which I did. But while sitting and waiting for the test, I suddenly remembered that the previous day, I'd gotten my second booster shot of the shingles vaccine. I pulled out my phone to look up the possible side effects of that vaccine. Turns out they are about identical to the symptoms of COVID. Got the test anyway. I'm COVID free. (Unfortunately, I'm also antibody free.) -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 6:41:49 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/24/2020 8:29 PM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. It's not a USA thing. Like so much else, it's a Tom's Imagination thing. From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...y-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. They do it because they want to. They know it's smart. |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:10:46 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:13:00 +0700, John B. wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 06:47:17 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:11:11 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:41:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/24/2020 8:29 PM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:21:11 -0700, cyclintom wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 9:42:43 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: So the USA has 120,000 just randomly dieing each week! On your brightest day you would embarrass a moron. I'll take that as a yes, you are talking throught your addled brain stem again. It is pretty plain. why you sign on anonymously. Lol, if you had an IT clue, you could find my name on the internet very easily Let's remember that in a bad seasonal flu year that we can lose as many people and they aren't just the old and sick. They are 5 years old and under who cannot be vaccinated. Funny, Australia vaccinated from 6 MONTHS and older. Vaccinations while pushed by manufacturers of vaccines for children under 5 often do not take. In small children in particular they can cause extreme allergic reactions Given what else I've seen of the USA, I'm not surprised that $$ rules the quality of medical services over your place. Not the case here. and this is why most parents do not want to vaccinate children. Must be a USA thing. Only the ignorant do not vaccinate their kids as soon as possible. It's not a USA thing. Like so much else, it's a Tom's Imagination thing. Thought so. From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...many-kids-are- completely-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. TheThe.Bank.Job. 2008.1080p.BluRay.x264.YIFY.mp4y do it because they want to. They know it's smart. Not to argue, but isn't there some sort of anti-vaccination movement? group? Yep, fruit looks. I keep reading articles about all the horrible things caused by vaccinations. Look at the dates and details. There have been some problems over the decades but miniscule in number and sadly some people do suffer sde effects of modern medicine, but in immmunisatio, th percentages are very small. Dates and details? This is what I look for when they pump their ****.I know of some adverse vaccination events and they are there if people people want to search. However, in general vaccination side effects are a non-event. When I was in the Air Force we took a annual "Flu Shot" and one year, at the base I was assigned, it caused so many to get sick that they had to stop flying for a day or so as there wasn't anyone well enough to pilot or maintain the airplanes. On the other hand, no one died from it and, as I remember, no one came down with the flu that year :-) If there are examples, these people are absolutely of no value, because they can never produce the data to back up their claims and allow for proper scientific investigation. and distant past. see http://dangersofvaccines.com/ https://www.stopmandatoryvaccination...ccine-dangers/ Sorry, that is clearly a croc of ****e site. Notice they are just pushing fud with no details. Details matter. I agree with you but there are apparently hundreds, perhaps thousands, or even millions, that believe, even in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:40:51 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 6/24/2020 10:11 PM, John B. wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:41:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: From https://www.contemporarypediatrics.c...y-unvaccinated "According to the report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), 1.3% of children born in 2015 had not received any vaccinations by the 2017 National Immunization Survey-Child (NIS-Child).1 This figure indicates an upward trend in children in the 19-month to 35-month age group going without vaccinations, up from 0.9% in 2011 and 0.3% in 2001." Roughly 99% of American parents get their kids vaccinated. Nobody holds a gun to their head. They do it because they want to. They know it's smart. Not to argue, but isn't there some sort of anti-vaccination movement? group? whatever? I keep reading articles about all the horrible things caused by vaccinations. There are those idiots, but apparently they are few and generally ineffective. IIRC, there are some pockets of the country where those people have successfully raised the number of measles cases, but that's not widespread. And I'll add that those idiots tend to be left wing, not right wing. I wonder about weird alliances between left wing anti-vaxxers and right-wing anti-maskers. Speaking of vaccination side effects: About a week ago, I felt extremely fatigued despite a good night's sleep. I had absolutely zero energy, and in the afternoon I fell asleep in my recliner. I'm aware that fatigue is a COVID symptom, so I took my temperature a couple times. Eventually I found I had a fever. My doctor's staff said "Fatigue and fever? Get tested for COVID," which I did. But while sitting and waiting for the test, I suddenly remembered that the previous day, I'd gotten my second booster shot of the shingles vaccine. I pulled out my phone to look up the possible side effects of that vaccine. Turns out they are about identical to the symptoms of COVID. Got the test anyway. I'm COVID free. (Unfortunately, I'm also antibody free.) Years ago when my Uncle decided to send me to a tropical paradise I was required to take quite a number of "shots". I reported to the Medics and they stabbed me in the arm several times and said come back to morrow. I did and they took my temperature and apparently I passed as they gave me several more jabs in the arm and then the Medic says "drop your pants" and they gave me this really big shot in the... well, buttocks :-)Then the Medic says, "you aren't going any place in the next few days are you?" and, of course I say, "Why not?" and the Medic says, "well, that last one was a plague shot and we sort of like to have people stray around for a few days after they get it." -- cheers, John B. |
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