Could Key West be a bike model for America?

"BrianNZ" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:

ALL unmoderated newsgroups are nothing but a free-for-all. Nothing
serious can ever get properly discussed. Anyone who takes unmoderated
newsgroups the least bit serious is a fool.

It's just a matter of picking the gems from the ****heap. The absolute
loons don't take long to stand out, it's the subtle loons you have to
watch for.

Any kind of loons at all will scare off normal folks. Before you know it,
you just have loons talking to loons. Have a look at ARBR for the
JimmyMac-Ed Dolan dialogues to see what I mean.

Moderated newsgroups obviously are not for you and me, but you really do
need a moderator (editor) to pass on the appropriateness of any and all
messages. Fro instance, neither my message to which you are replying nor
your message to which I am replying would pass muster on a moderated
newsgroup - and rightfully so. Who in their right mind wants to read
words like "god damn moron" or "****"? Censorship is good!

Those words help you build a mental profile of the person you are dealing
with....and despite their language, they may still have valid points to
offer. Censorship sucks, full bloody stop! It should be up to the
individual to decide who/what they read/respond to.

Well, I used to believe that too along with Tom Sherman of ARBR. But we were
both wrong. Absolute freedom to say anything you want is an abomination.
Hells Bells, I prove that with my every post. Sorry, but I believe in
censorship, the more of it the better. It is the one and only thing that
makes civilization possible.

By the way, this question goes back to how best is truth served. I no longer
have any faith in allowing all opinions to be heard. The mass of men are
unable to make intelligent decisions (the election of B. Hussein O. will
soon prove how true this is). It is better that an elite regulate what can
be said and what cannot be said. I would prefer that the elite be priests,
but that is because I am a Man of the Middle Ages. Damn the Renaissance! I
yearn for the Spanish Inquisition!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
I yearn for the Spanish Inquisition!

"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is
surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... our two weapons are
fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons are
fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical
devotion to the Pope.... Our four...no... amongst our weapons....
amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise...." -
Cardinal Ximinez

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.

On Oct 31, 7:13*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message

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On Oct 31, 3:16 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" wrote:
[...]

Suppose every message I and every other person here posted was
cross-
posted to a dozen or more newsgroups, related or not, in an effort
to
have our views read by as many people as possible. It would tend
to
negate the rationale for having newsgroups devoted to particular
areas
of interest - areas which, although never pure in content, are
nevertheless identifiable, making people better able to filter out
subjects they don't want to be deluged with (like non-Americans
with
endless rehashing of a single American 9/11 controversy).

ALL unmoderated newsgroups are for idiots. Therefore it doesn't matter what
is cross-posted to wherever. Anyone who is stupid enough to be on an
unmoderated newsgroup deserves whatever **** is served up. So just shut the
**** up and eat the ****, you god damn moron!
[...]

Yeah sure, it's good to know you like to be moderated, where you'd
have lost the right to speak a long time ago.

THIS IS FREE SPEECH, you communist *******!

On Oct 31, 7:50*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message

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[...] I don't fear that more than the theory that Iraq had WMDs when they

didn't.

And that was a REAL conspiracy theory.

You god damn ****ing stupid asshole ... the whole world thought he had
weapons of mass destruction including all of your liberal asshole buddies in
Congress. Even Powell the Black Sheep thought so!

Remember the secret contacts of Hussein and Al Qaida in Nigeria and

Checkoslavakia [Czechoslovakia] and other BS?

Hussein was bent on acquiring nuclear weapons. Further, he wanted the whole
world to think that he had them. Therefore Bush was more than justified to
take him and his regime out. Only liberal assholes like you think otherwise.
Now go **** yourself and stop posting nonsense to these honorable
newsgroups, you god damn moron!

By the way, there no longer is any Czechoslovakia. It is now the Czech
Republic and Slovakia. Try to get your head screwed on straight why don't
you, you god damn moron!

Oh c'mon, North Korea has WMDs for real and what are you doing to take
them out?

Just apeace the beast, right? But North Korea doesn't have oil either.

The big lion thinks, "The little lion has real paws and teeth and
nothing to eat... so I better welcome him among my accomplices." And
so North Korea does whatever it wants. And what about Lybia?

Sorry to tell you are a big clown without nothing say.

On Oct 31, 7:57*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message

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[...] I iniatially pushed for separate facilities (bike lanes), but now in

light of the resistance from cyclists (who probably are elite cyclists
who are not interested in them), I push both for bike lanes and
traffic taming. Both conditions are present in Key West which make it
appropriate as a model.

Bike lanes are the pits. It is a good way for cyclists to get themselves
killed. We need our own bike paths. And none of this has anything to do with
"elite cyclists." It has to do with common sense.

By the way, Key West is a dump and I would not want to be caught dead there.
[...]


I didn't say it wasn't a dump, but that it has many cyclists doing
real things with bikes. But the same dump is common to must American
cities, you moron. That's why the rich and famous go to live in gated
communities.

On Nov 1, 12:37 am, Ben Kaufman spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:36:13 -0700 (PDT), KingOfTheApes

wrote:
The subject here is NOT 9-11, but my subject here is and has always
been WHY AMERICAN ROADS REMAIN A JUNGLE, AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO FIX IT.
If we don't, then 44,000 more Americans will die every year and that's
more than 10 times worse than 9-11...

So what? Over 12 times that (559,000) people die from cancer each year
Over 19 times that (856,000) people die from cardiovascular disease each year.
69,000 die from non transportation accidents.
71k for Alzheimers

http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/Ag...13%20Causes%20...

Yeah, but we are fighting cigarette smoking, dickhead. Haven't you
heard all the campaigns against it, and of all of the suits against
Big Tobacco.

I'm yet to see some sueing Big Oil and the Big Three for promoting big
SUVs.

On Nov 1, 6:14*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"S'mee" wrote in message

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On Oct 31, 6:13 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:

ALL unmoderated newsgroups are for idiots. Therefore it doesn't matter
what
is cross-posted to wherever. Anyone who is stupid enough to be on an
unmoderated newsgroup deserves whatever **** is served up. So just shut
the
**** up and eat the ****, you god damn moron!
So you WANT CENSORSHIP? No thanks I do not wnat some **** telling want

I can and cannot say. **** moderated groups and the worthless *******s
who wnat them. That being said it should be obvious to a nut like you
I can't stand anything resembling censorship.

Keith

ALL unmoderated newsgroups are nothing but a free-for-all. Nothing serious
can ever get properly discussed. Anyone who takes unmoderated newsgroups the
least bit serious is a fool.

Moderated newsgroups obviously are not for you and me, but you really do
need a moderator (editor) to pass on the appropriateness of any and all
messages. Fro instance, neither my message to which you are replying nor
your message to which I am replying would pass muster on a moderated
newsgroup - and rightfully so. Who in their right mind wants to read words
like "god damn moron" or "****"? Censorship is good!


The same thing can be said about the need for ANY censorship. You must
be a reformed communist.

On Nov 1, 7:24*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:

By the way, this question goes back to how best is truth served. I no longer
have any faith in allowing all opinions to be heard. The mass of men are
unable to make intelligent decisions (the election of B. Hussein O. will
soon prove how true this is). It is better that an elite regulate what can
be said and what cannot be said. I would prefer that the elite be priests,
but that is because I am a Man of the Middle Ages. Damn the Renaissance! I
yearn for the Spanish Inquisition!


I sincerely think you should be burned at the stake, you elitist
*******.

On Nov 1, 9:21*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
I yearn for the Spanish Inquisition!

"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is
surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... our two weapons are
fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons are
fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical
devotion to the Pope.... Our four...no... amongst our weapons....
amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise...." -
Cardinal Ximinez

--

It sounds like coming out of the worst Stalinist years.

But he's a clown yearning for attention. We'll give a second
chance.

KingOfTheApes wrote:
On Nov 1, 9:21 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
I yearn for the Spanish Inquisition!

"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is
surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... our two
weapons
are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our three
weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost
fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our four...no... amongst our
weapons.... amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear,
surprise...." - Cardinal Ximinez

--

It sounds like coming out of the worst Stalinist years.

But he's a clown yearning for attention. We'll give a second
chance.

Actually the "Cardinal Ximinez" quote comes from Monty Python.

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