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Old March 8th 06, 07:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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For those deprived of Paris-Nice, just a couple of observations, though I
guess I must have been under an influence, dreaming, or am just plain lying.

Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride 1,5km
until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have done better on
clinchers.

Floyd Landis did the unthinkable ! During the last 30 km of the race (they
didn't show a lot of him earlier), he rode uphill, on false flats, even on
the flats, with hand in hooks and out of the saddle. He must have a fashion
mag contract that pays even better than Phonak.

A couple of days ago, Laurent (Agritubel) did the same for around 40 of the
130 km escape. Such phony posing. No wonder he didn't win the stage. And
that's why Landis only came in second today.

Got to get that TV adjusted.....
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Old March 8th 06, 09:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Dans le message de
oups.com,
Scott a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
Sandy wrote:
For those deprived of Paris-Nice, just a couple of observations,
though I guess I must have been under an influence, dreaming, or am
just plain lying.

Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride
1,5km until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have
done better on clinchers.

Floyd Landis did the unthinkable ! During the last 30 km of the
race (they didn't show a lot of him earlier), he rode uphill, on
false flats, even on the flats, with hand in hooks and out of the
saddle. He must have a fashion mag contract that pays even better
than Phonak.

A couple of days ago, Laurent (Agritubel) did the same for around 40
of the 130 km escape. Such phony posing. No wonder he didn't win
the stage. And that's why Landis only came in second today.

Got to get that TV adjusted.....
--
Sandy


Don't know how much time was devoted to Landis during the broadcast
you watched, but I see 5 still shots on cyclingnews.com and 2 more on
velonews.com, and all the shots show him either on the brake hoods of
the flats of the bars. Just how much time did they show him in the
hooks? (I'm assuming you're using that term where I might use the term
'drops').


Lots of time. While I won't guess what he was doing when they didn't show
him (yes, I was glued to the tv), he led a two man break that way, he
accelerated that way, he came through half the last two kilometers that way.
He also was on the hoods, and he also rested his forearms on the bar at the
center. Laurent was even more dedicated to this position.

And if you don't think I saw correctly (I must has hallucinated, according
to a big-wig in this forum), there are regular correspondents here who may
have watched it from an even closer vantage point.

Actually, it could be said, I think fairly, that Floyd was in the hooks for
70% or more of the last 30 km, though not all out of the saddle. Really. I
haven't figured out the tv freeze-frame deal on the adsl feed to the
computer, but I tried. Lots more stages to come.
--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR


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Old March 8th 06, 10:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride 1,5km
until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have done better on
clinchers.



He wouldn't necessarily have done any worse. I've seen folks flat
front clinchers and ride them down twisty decents and along flats at
over 20 mph for far longer than 1.5 km....

A front flat on a clincher doesn't necessarily mean "instant yard
sale"...myths be damned!

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Old March 8th 06, 11:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 8 Mar 2006 14:50:19 -0800, "Tom_A" wrote:

Sandy Casar, riding tubulars, flats the front one, and has to ride 1,5km
until the Mavic car can help him out. I guess he would have done better on
clinchers.



He wouldn't necessarily have done any worse. I've seen folks flat
front clinchers and ride them down twisty decents and along flats at
over 20 mph for far longer than 1.5 km....


A front flat on a clincher doesn't necessarily mean "instant yard
sale"...myths be damned!


It's harder to ride a flat clincher.

JT


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Old March 8th 06, 11:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Prove it.

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On 8 Mar 2006 15:37:36 -0800, "Tom_A" wrote:

Prove it.


Try it.

JT

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Old March 9th 06, 12:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Prove it.


Try it.


OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally. Does that change
your mind?

I didn't think so.

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Old March 9th 06, 12:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally.


It's just not true


Prove it.

Round and round we go, where it stops....

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On 8 Mar 2006 16:28:48 -0800, "Tom_A" wrote:


OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally.


It's just not true.

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"Tom_A" wrote:

OK...and it's not harder...they both suck equally.


It's just not true


Prove it.

Round and round we go, where it stops....


It all depends on whether you prefer for there to be rubber between
your rim and the road, or whether you prefer to have the tire squirm
around and expose your rim to the road surface directly.

Not sure 'bout you... but I know which I'd prefer.

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