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Name of screw that holds the rear brake cable
On Wednesday, 21 August 2019 19:40:24 UTC-4, AK wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 6:25:43 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:42:06 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 8/20/2019 8:44 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/20/2019 8:11 PM, AMuzi wrote: That just happened to me Saturday. "I've looked everywhere for..." "Simplex 503. $1.95" Or $199.00 elsewhere, I see: https://www.ebay.com/i/113775529548 Maybe it wasn't exactly the same? Aha! We have several libraries here. Found it! http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...t/simplex1.jpg See penultimate item near bottom of page. Look what I found in one of my junk boxes. Simplex 637P and 637NI front derailleurs: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/Simplex-derailleur.jpg Notice that the two derailleurs are slight different. They were probably left-over from upgrading 1960's Peugeot bicycles in the distant past. I have no idea why I saved them. Make me rich and they're both yours. No extra charge for the dirt and rust. https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Parts%20and%20Accessories/Parts%20&%20Accessories.htm Methinks if I dig deeper into the junk box, I might find the original Simplex front derailleurs and other parts and pieces. I didn't think anyone would pay $200 for Simplex parts, but apparently there is a demand and some sales. Sold Simplex derailleurs on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=simple+derailleur&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complet e=1 I guess I should upgrade the name of my junk box to "unsorted vintage components". -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 I find it quite humorous that a few here start an argument over what a part is called. :-) Andy And will use pages to continue arguing. Cheers |
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On 8/21/2019 6:25 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:42:06 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 8/20/2019 8:44 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/20/2019 8:11 PM, AMuzi wrote: That just happened to me Saturday. "I've looked everywhere for..." "Simplex 503. $1.95" Or $199.00 elsewhere, I see: https://www.ebay.com/i/113775529548 Maybe it wasn't exactly the same? Aha! We have several libraries here. Found it! http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...t/simplex1.jpg See penultimate item near bottom of page. Look what I found in one of my junk boxes. Simplex 637P and 637NI front derailleurs: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/Simplex-derailleur.jpg Notice that the two derailleurs are slight different. They were probably left-over from upgrading 1960's Peugeot bicycles in the distant past. I have no idea why I saved them. Make me rich and they're both yours. No extra charge for the dirt and rust. https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Parts%20and%20Accessories/Parts%20&%20Accessories.htm Methinks if I dig deeper into the junk box, I might find the original Simplex front derailleurs and other parts and pieces. I didn't think anyone would pay $200 for Simplex parts, but apparently there is a demand and some sales. Sold Simplex derailleurs on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=simple+derailleur&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complet e=1 I guess I should upgrade the name of my junk box to "unsorted vintage components". The open spring with grey cover Prestige is about 1964 through 1970 or so. The closed spring 637 was their highest volume product ever from about 1971 on. The rod-type Simplex fronts, like Campagnolo GranSport, are sorely lacking: http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/images-a...ront-bobet.jpg Although they were adequate to the era of 47/50 chainrings. After the 1972 AV 3SC, all the parallelogram fronts are absolutely superior. http://classicbicycles.world.coocan....xRefAV3SC.html Simplex front cages from that series are exceptionally thick and stiff, even as compared to Suntour, and the triple models are best of the era without exception. We used them on tandem triples extensively. Delrin nylon has its fans but the Simplex LJ series in aluminum bear very high prices NOS nowadays. $199 is not out of line given the demand and small supply. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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AK wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 6:25:43 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:42:06 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 8/20/2019 8:44 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/20/2019 8:11 PM, AMuzi wrote: That just happened to me Saturday. "I've looked everywhere for..." "Simplex 503. $1.95" Or $199.00 elsewhere, I see: https://www.ebay.com/i/113775529548 Maybe it wasn't exactly the same? Aha! We have several libraries here. Found it! http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...t/simplex1.jpg See penultimate item near bottom of page. Look what I found in one of my junk boxes. Simplex 637P and 637NI front derailleurs: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/Simplex-derailleur.jpg Notice that the two derailleurs are slight different. They were probably left-over from upgrading 1960's Peugeot bicycles in the distant past. I have no idea why I saved them. Make me rich and they're both yours. No extra charge for the dirt and rust. https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Parts%20and%20Accessories/Parts%20&%20Accessories.htm Methinks if I dig deeper into the junk box, I might find the original Simplex front derailleurs and other parts and pieces. I didn't think anyone would pay $200 for Simplex parts, but apparently there is a demand and some sales. Sold Simplex derailleurs on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=simple+derailleur&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complet e=1 I guess I should upgrade the name of my junk box to "unsorted vintage components". -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 I find it quite humorous that a few here start an argument over what a part is called. :-) Andy It’s Usenet. Words is all we have here. |
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 16:43:00 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: Is the picture P1010012 a TV antenna? Andy I don't recognize the P1010012 number. Is that from my antenna design web pile? http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/antennas/ -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:42:45 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 16:43:00 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: Is the picture P1010012 a TV antenna? Andy I don't recognize the P1010012 number. Is that from my antenna design web pile? http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/antennas/ Ah, foundit: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/antennas/DTV-jw/index.html Yes, that was suppose to be a UHF TV antenna. It was built by a friend asking for an explanation why it didn't work. It was suppose to be a bowtie antenna: https://www.google.com/search?q=bowtie+tv+antenna&tbm=isch similar to the Channel Master 4220 design: http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/DB2.html However, the lengths and spacing were inaccurate, phasing lines were the wrong length and should have been crossed, and the reflector was too narrow. It was later rebuilt as a Gray-Hoverman design with an enlarged reflector: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=gray+hoverman+antennas It worked just fine (after I tweaked it on the bench using some test equipment instead of guesswork): http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/home/slides/test-equip-mess.html If you're into TV antenna design: http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/comparing.html -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Name of screw that holds the rear brake cable
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 09:19:47 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote: On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 8:32:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:19:21 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 3:25:34 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote: On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-7, Chalo wrote: Tom Kunich wrote: https://imgur.com/a/JT76Qog That is a standard "Internal Wrenching Bolt" This made me laugh. It says so much with so few words. It even hints at an explanation (not to say excuse) for your politics. A perhaps more widely understood technical term would be "M6 x 1.0 x 12 socket head cap screw". Chalo - no one knows the size of these things if they're asking about it. It is a STANDARD type of screw that can be bought in any fully equipped Ace Hardware Store anywhere in the US. By the way - It is NOT a "cap screw". It is as I said, and Internal Wrenching Bolt. Now they are often mislabeled and you'd find a Cap Screw in the wrong bin. Really? IIRC, at my Ace they're called socket head cap screws. And my Ace has a mind-boggling amount of fasteners, including SS metric socket head cap screws for my bike -- button head and regular. -- Jay Beattie. So, you found it at the Ace Hardware but because they mislabeled it you want to take their name for it rather than the proper one that you can look up on-line? This is why it is so easy to laugh at you. Having looked through the fasteners at my local Ace many, many times, I can guaranty you there there is no drawer, box or fastener labeled "Internal Wrenching Bolt." Maybe such a bolt exists, but what I use on my bike is labeled as a socket head cap screw. Go to Grainger: https://tinyurl.com/y4y89fww Type in "internal Wrenching Bolt" and see what comes up. Nada. An internal wrenching bolt is some odd-ball aircraft/military fastener with inch dimensions. It's not a metric fastener. Now go to the internet and type in "internal wrenching bolt" -- and get a bunch of military crap. https://military-fasteners.com/bolts...renching+bolts -- Jay Beattie. -- Jay Beattie. Over here we have shops that sell nuts and bolts. You just go in an say, "I'll have 5 of those, with washer and nut; and 10 of them over there in the corner, and 7 of them little bitty ones and, lets see, Oh Yes. four of five of them as I think that they may fit the brakes." Don't ever have to get into all that M5, or 1/8th or #10, inside, outside or up my ladies chamber business.. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 19:54:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 8/21/2019 6:54 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:09:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/21/2019 12:19 PM, jbeattie wrote: Having looked through the fasteners at my local Ace many, many times, I can guaranty you there there is no drawer, box or fastener labeled "Internal Wrenching Bolt." Maybe such a bolt exists, but what I use on my bike is labeled as a socket head cap screw. Go to Grainger: https://tinyurl.com/y4y89fww Type in "internal Wrenching Bolt" and see what comes up. Nada. An internal wrenching bolt is some odd-ball aircraft/military fastener with inch dimensions. It's not a metric fastener. Now go to the internet and type in "internal wrenching bolt" -- and get a bunch of military crap. https://military-fasteners.com/bolts...renching+bolts The military has a long history of unusual names. For example: ================================================== ========= "'I understand,'' the Maine Republican said, ''that there is a story coming out about a $600 toilet seat.'' ''I think that gives new meaning to the word throne,'' Cohen added before casually dropping the subject and moving on to weightier issues, such as space defense and NATO burden sharing. Within hours, the Defense Department publicists had cranked out a statement challenging the senator`s characterization of the transaction. Actually, the statement said, the Pentagon didn`t pay more than $600 for a toilet seat. ''We believe the senator was referring to a lavatory cover which we have recently learned has been priced at more than $600 by the contractor, the Lockheed Corp.,'' the statement said. According to Nick Duretta of Lockheed`s public information office, there is a difference between a toilet seat and the lavatory cover purchased for P-3 patrol planes that are now out of production. ''It (the lavatory cover) is more complex than a toilet seat,'' Duretta said." ================================================== ======== That was pretty common knowledge in the sections that were in the business of trying to keep experimental airplanes flying) The story was that the A.F. had ordered a toilet "can" cover for an experimental aircraft for which there was no spares in the supply system, or manufacturer's stocks. What is the correct price to set up and manufacture a cover, probably dimensioned in tenths of thousands and made of some erotic material? Hmm. I'd first do away with the "erotic" material. You don't want flyboys getting hot, bothered and distracted. You have obviously never been around military airplanes. Every part is specified in sufficient detail to manufacture exact of copies, which of course is what the specs are for :-) So to make a toilet can replacement you must (1) come up with the approved design package as well as (2) the approved raw material and than get someone to exactly duplicate the manufacturing process. Now, it is easy to say, "Oh that doesn't make much sense" but who makes the decision of what makes sense? I can assure you that the pilot and navigator of a supersonic F-111B may have a very different idea of that made sense regarding a modification of the egress system. Sufficiently different that they stated that if that "mod" was accomplished they would refuse to fly the aircraft. Secondly, find a way to avoid tolerances as small as tenths. One reason our students went through some machine shop fundamentals was so they would realize how much work and expense is involved in "plus or minus one thousandth," let alone one tenth. But I once worked with a guy who had done design work for a company producing military helicopters. (Sorry, I forget which.) He said that in the engineering drawing room (back in the days of drafting boards) there was a big display up on one wall, a selection of tools. The sign said something like "They have to repair it with THESE." The idea, supposedly, was to avoid exotic requirements in tools. One would think the same idea should apply to toilet seats. I would agree... except I worked on some helicopters and some of their "features" were rather remarkable. The replacement of either the engine or the transmission on Huey was a rather amazing process that involved having the engine, transmission and airframe in the position which they would be in actual flight which would of course vary depending on fuel aboard, people or equipment aboard, speed of aircraft, etc. At the same time the F111B had some nose wheel landing gear bushings that were called "fabroid bushings" that did not require lubrication. They also failed very frequently, sometimes a frequently as every flight and depending on the bushing they might cost $100 each and we usually changed them as a full set so several hundred dollars per set. And there were 3 experimental aircraft in the fleet. What to do? That sounds like a terrible design flaw. Believe me the Mechanist (me) that had to remove and replace those bushings agreed with you but that didn't change the approved design of the nose gear. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 7:42:49 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 16:43:00 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: Is the picture P1010012 a TV antenna? Andy I don't recognize the P1010012 number. Is that from my antenna design web pile? http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/antennas/ -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 Yes. Andy |
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On 8/22/2019 5:43 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 19:54:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/21/2019 6:54 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:09:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/21/2019 12:19 PM, jbeattie wrote: Having looked through the fasteners at my local Ace many, many times, I can guaranty you there there is no drawer, box or fastener labeled "Internal Wrenching Bolt." Maybe such a bolt exists, but what I use on my bike is labeled as a socket head cap screw. Go to Grainger: https://tinyurl.com/y4y89fww Type in "internal Wrenching Bolt" and see what comes up. Nada. An internal wrenching bolt is some odd-ball aircraft/military fastener with inch dimensions. It's not a metric fastener. Now go to the internet and type in "internal wrenching bolt" -- and get a bunch of military crap. https://military-fasteners.com/bolts...renching+bolts The military has a long history of unusual names. For example: ================================================== ========= "'I understand,'' the Maine Republican said, ''that there is a story coming out about a $600 toilet seat.'' ''I think that gives new meaning to the word throne,'' Cohen added before casually dropping the subject and moving on to weightier issues, such as space defense and NATO burden sharing. Within hours, the Defense Department publicists had cranked out a statement challenging the senator`s characterization of the transaction. Actually, the statement said, the Pentagon didn`t pay more than $600 for a toilet seat. ''We believe the senator was referring to a lavatory cover which we have recently learned has been priced at more than $600 by the contractor, the Lockheed Corp.,'' the statement said. According to Nick Duretta of Lockheed`s public information office, there is a difference between a toilet seat and the lavatory cover purchased for P-3 patrol planes that are now out of production. ''It (the lavatory cover) is more complex than a toilet seat,'' Duretta said." ================================================== ======== That was pretty common knowledge in the sections that were in the business of trying to keep experimental airplanes flying) The story was that the A.F. had ordered a toilet "can" cover for an experimental aircraft for which there was no spares in the supply system, or manufacturer's stocks. What is the correct price to set up and manufacture a cover, probably dimensioned in tenths of thousands and made of some erotic material? Hmm. I'd first do away with the "erotic" material. You don't want flyboys getting hot, bothered and distracted. You have obviously never been around military airplanes. Every part is specified in sufficient detail to manufacture exact of copies, which of course is what the specs are for :-) You're glossing over the "erotic" part! Sure, specs are necessary - but how do you decide if a toilet seat is "erotic" enough? After all, our military is now open not only to two genders, but to a complete spectrum of sexual practices, identities and tastes. What's erotic to one individual may be disgusting to the next! I wouldn't consider this as an unsolvable problem, though. Rather, it's an opportunity for a big, expensive research project. It might lead to someone's PhD thesis; or even better, to an entire new task force with permanent funding. That's more opportunities for empire building within the ranks, more chances for advancement. And so what if a USELC (Universally Stimulating Erotic Lavatory Cover) costs $2000 instead of a mere $600? Diversity must be cherished and supported! -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:25:48 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 8/22/2019 5:43 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 19:54:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/21/2019 6:54 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:09:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/21/2019 12:19 PM, jbeattie wrote: Having looked through the fasteners at my local Ace many, many times, I can guaranty you there there is no drawer, box or fastener labeled "Internal Wrenching Bolt." Maybe such a bolt exists, but what I use on my bike is labeled as a socket head cap screw. Go to Grainger: https://tinyurl.com/y4y89fww Type in "internal Wrenching Bolt" and see what comes up. Nada. An internal wrenching bolt is some odd-ball aircraft/military fastener with inch dimensions. It's not a metric fastener. Now go to the internet and type in "internal wrenching bolt" -- and get a bunch of military crap. https://military-fasteners.com/bolts...renching+bolts The military has a long history of unusual names. For example: ================================================== ========= "'I understand,'' the Maine Republican said, ''that there is a story coming out about a $600 toilet seat.'' ''I think that gives new meaning to the word throne,'' Cohen added before casually dropping the subject and moving on to weightier issues, such as space defense and NATO burden sharing. Within hours, the Defense Department publicists had cranked out a statement challenging the senator`s characterization of the transaction. Actually, the statement said, the Pentagon didn`t pay more than $600 for a toilet seat. ''We believe the senator was referring to a lavatory cover which we have recently learned has been priced at more than $600 by the contractor, the Lockheed Corp.,'' the statement said. According to Nick Duretta of Lockheed`s public information office, there is a difference between a toilet seat and the lavatory cover purchased for P-3 patrol planes that are now out of production. ''It (the lavatory cover) is more complex than a toilet seat,'' Duretta said." ================================================== ======== That was pretty common knowledge in the sections that were in the business of trying to keep experimental airplanes flying) The story was that the A.F. had ordered a toilet "can" cover for an experimental aircraft for which there was no spares in the supply system, or manufacturer's stocks. What is the correct price to set up and manufacture a cover, probably dimensioned in tenths of thousands and made of some erotic material? Hmm. I'd first do away with the "erotic" material. You don't want flyboys getting hot, bothered and distracted. You have obviously never been around military airplanes. Every part is specified in sufficient detail to manufacture exact of copies, which of course is what the specs are for :-) You're glossing over the "erotic" part! Frank, when it comes to airplanes and parts there are no "erotic" parts there are specified parts and a specified way of installing them, right down to, in some cases, the sequence of tightening the bolts. The military aircraft business discovered long ago detailed specifications and exacting instructions result in fewer broken airplanes (and dead pilots). Sure, specs are necessary - but how do you decide if a toilet seat is "erotic" enough? After all, our military is now open not only to two genders, but to a complete spectrum of sexual practices, identities and tastes. What's erotic to one individual may be disgusting to the next! I wouldn't consider this as an unsolvable problem, though. Rather, it's an opportunity for a big, expensive research project. It might lead to someone's PhD thesis; or even better, to an entire new task force with permanent funding. That's more opportunities for empire building within the ranks, more chances for advancement. It could be, but I might point out that sometimes "unsolvable problems" really are. When they were designing the first capsule there was a problem about how a guy could take a crap in zero gravity (note that they solved this later) so some enterprising engineer did the obvious and designed a "crapper" that used a small vacuum pump to ensure that pressure inside the crapper was lower than pressure outside the crapper. And all the engineers and guys were standing around saying things like "Yup! Stands to reason!" and "Sure! Everyone knows!" and things like that. And than they put the new, improved, zero gravity crapper on a "ballistics flight" aircraft - one that can achieve zero gravity for a few minutes - some poor astronaut got to test it.... and it pulled almost 12 inches of his intestines out his rectum before they could switch the pump off. And so what if a USELC (Universally Stimulating Erotic Lavatory Cover) costs $2000 instead of a mere $600? Diversity must be cherished and supported! Oh Yes, the "fix"? Ah well, after considerable study, searches and experiments the final solution was.... (wait for it)... diapers :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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