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SRAM front ders use the same activation ratio as Shimano meaning you can use both Sram and Shimano front ders. I am surprised that people have had problems shifting with it. (new stuff that is). -- Paulie-AU |
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In aus.bicycle on 8 Oct 2006 20:37:15 -0700
Donga wrote: Be a devil, do it yourself. Get instructions off the web, e.g. Park Tools, and follow them. Believe it or not, they work, and it's not hard. Yeah, but while I'm happy to rebuild my motorcycle motor completely, these cables and cogs and things worry me! Ah well, I suppose if I foul it up I can whack the bent in the trailer and take it to someone to fix. Hmm, have to buy a tube cutter.... Zebee |
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Zebee Johnstone wrote: In aus.bicycle on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:08:55 +1000 Tamyka Bell wrote: I tried a bike with SRAM components and found that shifting was consistently good, except I had a bugger of a time trying to shift to bigger cogs because my thumbs were too small to push the lever far enough easily. Very frustrating - and it was meant to be a chick-specific setup! Same same their gripshift. The rear is sweet (except for some cogjumping problems I have that I think are cable route related) but the front is a right pain. Hellish hard on the wrist to shift to the big ring, and constantly having to adjust the limit screws to get it to shift properly to the small ring. I now have barcons including an XT rear derailleur. Just have to decide if I do the swap myself or wimp out and get a shop to do it. Is it etiquette to turn up to a bike shop with all the bits and say "don't want to buy parts from you, just want you to do the work"? Sure, but generally you'll pay a higher rate for the job as the shop's not making any money off the sale of the bits, which generally subsidises the labour charges. We do it reasonably often. We often get to assemble kmart bikes too .... urghh |
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on 8 Oct 2006 20:37:15 -0700 Donga wrote: Be a devil, do it yourself. Get instructions off the web, e.g. Park Tools, and follow them. Believe it or not, they work, and it's not hard. Yeah, but while I'm happy to rebuild my motorcycle motor completely, these cables and cogs and things worry me! I know that feeling. Was quite happy doing all (well most) of my own work on the FJ1200, but still felt I needed a maint course on bikes. DaveB |
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In aus.bicycle on 8 Oct 2006 21:07:39 -0700
Bleve wrote: Sure, but generally you'll pay a higher rate for the job as the shop's not making any money off the sale of the bits, which generally subsidises the labour charges. That's what I figured. I don't mind the money because I don't mind paying for expertise. What ****es me off is substandard work... and I've had that happen! I might ask City Bike to quote as they are easy to get to and have treated me well before. (besides, anyone who has tubes in my bike's sizes on the shelf is definitely on my good guys list!) Zebee |
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Zebee Johnstone wrote: Sure, but generally you'll pay a higher rate for the job as the shop's not making any money off the sale of the bits, which generally subsidises the labour charges. That's what I figured. I don't mind the money because I don't mind paying for expertise. Some people get quite indignant. We typically charge around $50 an hour for labour, and something like fitting a flightdeck computer can take that long, or assembling a kmart ****ter (to a standard that we'd accept as at least, safe to ride) can take longer. The general rule for bike assembly is the cheaper the bike, the longer it takes to put together properly* so when someone brings in some $80 ****ter from kmart and asks us to build it for them and we quote them $100 to do it, they get quite annoyed. But, it'll take us two hours to get the damn thing to work properly, after we rerun the cables, replace the parts that break the first time we testride it (brake lever housings made of the cheapest, nastiest plastic you can imagine for example) etc. What ****es me off is substandard work... and I've had that happen! I might ask City Bike to quote as they are easy to get to and have treated me well before. (besides, anyone who has tubes in my bike's sizes on the shelf is definitely on my good guys list!) You'd like the LBS I work at then, we have 'bent tyres, 'bent tubes, 'bent wheels ... even have 'bents on the floor to testride We lend out beards and long socks to go with them... * - except Cannondales. They take ages to put together, they come as a bag of bauxite and a bag of graphite fibres, some pig iron, and some instructions ... |
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In aus.bicycle on 8 Oct 2006 23:13:27 -0700
Bleve wrote: Some people get quite indignant. We typically charge around $50 an hour for labour, and something like fitting a flightdeck computer can take that long, or assembling a kmart ****ter (to a standard that we'd accept as at least, safe to ride) can take longer. The general rule for bike assembly is the cheaper the bike, the longer it takes to put together properly* Ah but you see I'm a motorcyclist. What's more I'm a motorcyclist into "Classic Italian machinery", otherwise known as 1970s horror stories So when I walk into my friendly motorcycle mechanic I know I'm up for quids because ain't nothing cheap or quick when someone else is working on your elderly wopbike. So if I can be sure they'll do it right then I'll be happy to pay, better than then me mess it up and then it will cost more to have them fix it. You'd like the LBS I work at then, we have 'bent tyres, 'bent tubes, 'bent wheels ... even have 'bents on the floor to testride We lend out beards and long socks to go with them... What about the sandals? Got to have the sandals! Zebee |
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Friday wrote:
Anyone got any comments on XTR versus XT equipment for mountain biking? As many others have said - as far as derailleurs go only XTR if someone else is paying for your stuff and it has to be Shimano. Else XT is good but X9 is betterer. Parbs - who prefers neither |
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"Bleve" wrote in message
oups.com... Friday wrote: Anyone got any comments on XTR versus XT equipment for mountain biking? A little bit lighter, a little bit stiffer, a lot more expensive. Or less stiff as the case may be. XT cranks are stiffer than XTR. You racing? If not, don't bother. Even if you're racing it hardly matters. XTR is for people who don't pay for their gear, check out what it costs to replace an XTR cassette vs XT. |
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