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Old April 30th 19, 11:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Cyclists are putting red cups in the road to show how driversoften invade bike lanes

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 9:18:30 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/30/2019 1:39 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 11:19:32 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/29/2019 7:19 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 12:33:28 PM UTC-4, wrote:

In San Francisco it isn't at all unusual to watch cars drive right down streets that are bicycle and Muni Transit Buses only and so marked. My residence is on a No Trucks Allowed street and I watch trucks driving by regularly. And I have watched doubles back and hitch to make the turn to get ONTO this residential street.

FWIW, that happened to me in Paris a few years ago. There was a segregated bike-
bus lane along a busy street. I was riding it in the rain. A dude in a black
fancy German car (Audi or Mercedes, I forget which) turned illegally into the
lane behind me and began honking for me to get out of the way. I just shook my
head and rode on. He stayed behind me until the next intersection then turned
off. He had no realistic alternative. I certainly wasn't about to pull over
to let him pass!

- Frank Krygowski

I can't comment on Paris but here, and I suspect in other countries as
well, the law says that "thou shall not impede other traffic".

That's not the law here. Every slow moving truck impedes traffic. Every
school bus does the same, as well as every rural delivery post office
truck, every farmer's tractor moving between fields, every Amish buggy,
and quite a few motorists who spend their red light gazing at their cell
phones, then failing to notice the green light until others start
honking at them.

But in the Paris incident, there was no way I would get out of the way
of a rude and impatient law breaker.


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- Frank Krygowski


IIRC, in Ontario Canada if your vehicle is holding up 4 or more other vehicles then the law says when safe to do so you're to pull over and allow t hat traffic to pass. Failure to do so can result in citations and fines for impeding traffic.


Some U.S. states have similar laws (typically, 5 vehicles) but mine does
not. And here in Ohio there was a court decision stating that a
bicyclist isn't bound by obstruction provisions if he's moving at a
reasonable speed for a bicyclist. The same applies to slow moving
trucks, etc. Only limited access freeways have minimum speed requirements..

Having said that, there have been a few times I've pulled over to let
multiple cars pass me on a narrow and busy two-lane road. But only a few
times. The issue comes up only very rarely, because it's actually
uncommon for a motorist to have to wait behind me for even 30 seconds.


Today I was powerfully shown yet again why you NEVER wave any cars around you no matter what. I had a car behind me on a turning climb and was slow. It appeared to be a clear straight ahead so I waved him around and a F-ing car doing about 40k mph appeared out of nowhere. There was just enough twist in that straight pieced of road to hide that car. Luckily I just had time to swerve over in front of that car I waved around and waved him back. Today was one of those days when every single road I was on have an almost continuous string of traffic on it.
 




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