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Where in the above law do you find the phrase 'motor vehicle'
? I can't seem to find it there. No. 1 for instance and all the way through. |
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SO..... blow it out your ass pal Pedal-pushing faggot. gas gussling fart sucker -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On 01 May 2007 16:15:57 GMT, Chris wrote:
wrote in : On 01 May 2007 13:17:28 GMT, Chris wrote: wrote in : On 01 May 2007 12:55:24 GMT, Chris wrote: (2) Whenever the department of transportation or local authorities within their respective jurisdictions determine, on the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation as described in the state traffic control manual, that slow speeds on any part of a highway consistently impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, said department or such local authority may determine and declare a minimum speed limit below which no person shall drive a vehicle, except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law. (4) Wherever special uphill traffic lanes or roadside turnouts are provided and posted, drivers of all vehicles proceeding at less than the normal and reasonable speed of traffic shall use such lanes or turnouts to allow other vehicles to pass or maintain normal traffic flow. (5) Any person who violates any provision of this section commits a class A traffic infraction. Are bicycles a motor vehicle? Where in the above law do you find the phrase 'motor vehicle' ? I can't seem to find it there. You are wrong motor head, bicycles have as much (actually more) right- of-way to the road as any car. Ask a cop, or better yet, the judge at your sentencing when you hit a cyclist Bwahahahaha !!!!!! You can cherry pick the law all you want, but bicyclist do have a right to the road, and motorist must pass safely SO..... blow it out your ass pal Pedal-pushing faggot. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On May 1, 1:23 pm, wrote:
Pedal-pushing faggot. - Show quoted text - Excellent show of both your point and intelligence. Did you get off the couch to post that, or just use a wireless keyboard? I still see nothing in the the regs you posted that would prohibit a bicyclist from riding in the road. This doesn't mean I ride in the middle of the lane when I ride, just that your post is irrelevant. |
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On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote:
Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to carry around on my rides. Ken- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi! I just read a couple of the items here...but I am a cyclist who packs. I have a 38 revolver that fits right into a fanny pack that I wear when I ride. I am a female and ride in rural areas by myself (haven't found a riding partner yet!) and I will not be a woman who goes out for a ride or a run and not come back. I am not concerned with time or the extra weight that the gun adds. I would rather be safe than sorry. BUT....As I agree that I have the right to carry a gun, I don't agree with owning the crazy machine guns, we don't need them, hunters don't need them; the sole purpose is to kill. I do agree that it is too easy to get guns in the US, and there are too many out there. Thanks, Evelyn Ziennker-Lee Virginia |
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If in doubt, shoot!
On Apr 26, 7:04 am, David Steuber wrote:
If you don't mind, I'll kibitz a bit. If you do mind, go to the next post now. (Brent P) writes: I'll describe the worst ones to you. 1) At a traffic light, I have taken the lane and am in lead spot in the right lane. (I got there first) A dodge neon is the next lane. Light turns green, I get off to a good start and leave the neon sitting there. The taurus driver behind me uses the gap I've created to pass the neon and move in the left lane. Passenger throws a bottle at me, hitting me. I've had several objects thrown at me from passing vehicles, but this is the only one that hit me. I've had **** thrown at me as well. Nothing injured me though, fortunately. However, once the vehicle has passed you, shooting at it would be revenge, not self defense. So you would be the one the cops are putting in cuffs. Sure. But then in court you may be able to get away with it by citing how Bush went into Iraq as a form of pre-emptive strike. If in doubt, shoot! and how could I forget the 'drive car' guy. This asian guy decides that it's just wrong that I am ahead of him in a backup and preventing him from kissing the bumper of the vehicle in front me. He start making threats, nearly hits me in a passing attempt. I good 'I am not going to take this sh*t and hold my ground' posture, worked momentarily, but then he started it up again so I ended up gutter passing to get away from him. Keep in mind that a car is a more deadly weapon than a gun. And more difficult to prove that it was used as a weapon. I read somewhere, that the perfect crime may be committed with a vehicle. If it made people behave it might just be worth it to me. Heinlein did say, "an armed society is a polite society." I believe that to be true. In general. But I don't see using a gun to settle trivial disputes as a practical use. I would rather save that level of force for someone coming after me with a weapon or other overwhelming physical force. Surviving a charging car may be trivial to the car, but survival to the bike. Of course, the whole argument is absurd, since it should be bike facilities, and and/or an education campaign that takes the heat off you handing out justice. |
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On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote:
Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. It absolutely does not need to be "re thought". It chafes already that "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed" somehow came to mean "you can keep small arms if you don't overly frighten your neighbors". |
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On 1 May 2007 11:53:51 -0700, evelyn wrote:
On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote: Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to carry around on my rides. Ken- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi! I just read a couple of the items here...but I am a cyclist who packs. I have a 38 revolver that fits right into a fanny pack that I wear when I ride. I am a female and ride in rural areas by myself (haven't found a riding partner yet!) and I will not be a woman who goes out for a ride or a run and not come back. Rock on ! I am not concerned with time or the extra weight that the gun adds. I would rather be safe than sorry. Think of it as a weight on a training belt - people pay good money for that stuff ! :-) BUT....As I agree that I have the right to carry a gun, I don't agree with owning the crazy machine guns, we don't need them, hunters don't need them; the sole purpose is to kill. I do agree that it is too easy to get guns in the US, and there are too many out there. Thanks, Evelyn Ziennker-Lee Virginia -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:26:31 -0500, "Mike Young"
wrote: On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote: Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Yes, in fact, they do. It absolutely does not need to be "re thought". It chafes already that "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed" somehow came to mean "you can keep small arms if you don't overly frighten your neighbors". -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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evelyn wrote in
ps.com: Hi! I just read a couple of the items here...but I am a cyclist who packs. I have a 38 revolver that fits right into a fanny pack that I wear when I ride. I am a female and ride in rural areas by myself (haven't found a riding partner yet!) and I will not be a woman who goes out for a ride or a run and not come back. I am not concerned with time or the extra weight that the gun adds. I would rather be safe than sorry. BUT....As I agree that I have the right to carry a gun, I don't agree with owning the crazy machine guns, we don't need them, hunters don't need them; the sole purpose is to kill. Uh,the Second Amendment is not about hunting or sporting.It's about having the means to "alter or to abolish" a government gone bad,as it states in the Declaration of Independence. It's not about "need",either.Government does not get to determine what law abiding citizens "need" or don't need. And sometimes,it's necessary to kill a bad guy. (and why do YOU carry a gun then?) Are you aware that to legally OWN a machine gun,one must have a REGISTERED MG,and be background checked,fingerprinted,pay a $200 Federal tax,and get the approval of a local law enforcement official(LEO)? And in some states,you STILL can't own a full-auto weapon. The number of legal registered MGs is FIXED,and one cannot buy NEW full- auto firearms since 1968.(excluding government and LEOs) Also,only ONE legally owned,registered machine gun has been criminally used since the 1934 NFA was enacted. However lots of people DO own full-auto firearms,and shoot them for sport.They are VERY expensive because of the limited supply of *registered* weapons. Any time you see or read about machine guns being used in crimes,they are not LEGALLY OWNED,and were likely smuggled into the US,or illegal conversions of legal semi-auto guns. BTW,the Federal Gov't is missing over 600 of their guns,some machine guns. Orlando police had two MG's stolen from a unmarked patrol car,one a silenced machine pistol.Other PDs are missing/"lost" some of their guns. One year,it was found that 40% of guns recovered from crimes in DC were missing from the DC police EVIDENCE LOCKER.Police were illegally selling guns from the evidence lockers. I do agree that it is too easy to get guns in the US, and there are too many out there. Thanks, Evelyn Ziennker-Lee Virginia I hope you have the proper carry permit for legal concealed carry. Otherwise,you also are a criminal. IIRC,open carry is legal in VA. That means you could legally carry it in a *visible* holster,but not IN a fanny pack. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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