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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
"Turby" wrote in message news On 3 May 2007 10:08:43 -0700, wrote: On May 3, 12:49 pm, Turby wrote: The first cite says, "1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assulted in her lifetime." Really, that's not much of a citation. I see no source for the number, and no clue as to how it was determined. It's impossible to tell if it has any validity. Once again, somebody wants to quibble about numbers, rather than address the issue. Do you deny that the number of reported rapes is ridiculously excessive? Without citing numbers, virtually all authorities agree that the actual incidence of rape is far higher than what is reported. -- Turby the Turbosurfer Even one is too much. Some countries you die for that violation. No second chances. No does not mean yes period. |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
evelyn wrote:
On May 2, 5:07 pm, BrianNZ wrote: evelyn wrote: how do you know.? I could be bigger than you or stronger than you, you are makine lots of assumptions because I assume I am a woman. You have no idea of what kind of person i am, what type of shape I am in, NOTHING. Hmmmmm....you assume you are a woman!? Drop your pants and take a look.....if you have a penis, you are a guy. Hope this helped clear that assumption up for you. Unless you are one of those confused individuals who has a penis but prefers wearing womens clothes...... how intellegent? The part about you assuming you are a woman? Well, what was the result of your pants survey? Am I talking to a man or a woman here. how about sticking to the arguement and not being a dumbass? (assuming your'e a woman 'cos if you don't know, how the hell am I supposed to know?) My my, that time of the month is it? Your argument of keeping a pistol in a fanny pack has already been won by the man who said 'use a holster'.....the guy that was trying to give you a heads up on how to defend yourself better, who you decided was flaming you. You can't even accept helpful advice without having a wee hissyfit, let alone having a laugh at yourself over your own words. |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
Wayne Pein wrote:
Stephen! wrote: Wayne Pein wrote in news:4638b259$0$9929 : Hey Boy, "Sharing" by your and other's definition seems to mean, "Bicyclists stay right in the lane so motorists can pass." CVC 21202. Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time *shall* ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway NC§20-146(b) “Upon all highways any vehicle proceeding at less than the legal maximum speed limit shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for thru traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the highway...” In NC bicyclists use the right lane, or if the lanes are not marked then, like other vehicles, as far to the right as practicable. Your state attempts to be discriminatory to bicyclists. However, practicable means that the bicyclist chooses what that distance is. And, the "normal" speed of traffic is subject to interpretation. If bicyclists are traffic, which they are, then "normal" is bicyclist speed. Further, your statute doesn't explicity say motorists can pass in the same lane. It merely implies it. I doubt that statute would hold up in court. Wayne So when vehicular traffic slows down at an intersection, do you wait in the line of traffic or do you filter up the inside? If you go for the inside line, wouldn't that be an illegal passing move (by being in the same lane & passing on the wrong side)? It's about time bicycles were treated more like 'traffic' by getting them all registered for a start. Numberplates on bicycles would be great as they could be identified when riding on the footpath, cutting through red lights or holding up the flow of traffic. Compulsory insurance as well, since your'e on the road......and a licence to prove you know the road rules......and a tax added to bicycles to help pay for roading. |
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riding a bike into no man's land
donquijote1954 wrote:
On May 3, 1:01 am, Bill wrote: That's reasonable and it will make it to the Bicycle Statutes of the revolution. What kind of flowers are fit for a lane taker who gets in front of a 40 ton semi? Bill Baka- Well, I'd be more worried with the driver of a 5 ton SUV, since this one has very little training in driving, and chances are he/she would be attending to some other business other than driving. But if we make it a COORDINATED CAMPAIGN, and while one goes down, the other make a lot of noise, then things could be different. At least you die for a purpose, or a cause. Let's not let the cause be stupidity. If it is a reasonable amount of traffic moving slow enough, like in a 25 MPH zone, then, sure, take the lane. I do in town and ride the side streets, not the main corridor. I can get there faster by avoiding the streets with all the cars and lights every block, with irritable drivers at every corner. Today I'll be riding in heavy traffic before I get into the calmer area, and I feel like I'm going into no man's land, 'cause, you know, it's very Darwinistic out there, even in a car... I will ride between cars in heavy traffic, even at a left turn lane, but only in town, and only if I have to in order to avoid a long detour. Left turns work out very well and straight across I don't take the lane but ride to the right so everybody can get across past me. In some places traffic isn't even going to notice a bike in the midst because they are topping out at 20 MPH. In others, they are so distracted by the other 'Cages' that they will be looking not to get hit by another 'cager' and not notice a bicycle. I got hit ***AFTER*** making eye contact with a driver around Christmas but the guy pulled out into me and almost ran his Gigantic pickup over me and bike. I did everything exactly legal and still got hit and my left thumb got cracked/dislocated and is only now really pain free again. "We live in a society where things are moving so fast that nobody seems to appreciate life anymore," Police: Steer clear of road rage by KAREN HANNA HAGERSTOWN - An accident in Frederick County, Md., that killed two people who reportedly exchanged obscene gestures with a man in another vehicle has local motorists worried. Almost two weeks after Harrisburg, Pa., residents Christian Michael Luciano, 28, and Lindsay L. Bender, 25, died in the accident on Interstate 270, 1st Sgt. Chris Sasse said Maryland State Police in Frederick continue their search for the other driver. Sasse said Monday that police at the Frederick barrack might get as many as 100 complaints about aggressive driving on busy travel days, but police in Washington County said they only occasionally investigate incidents involving road rage. Josie Boon and her husband, Erik, said they cannot understand what possesses drivers to put other travelers in danger. "We live in a society where things are moving so fast that nobody seems to appreciate life anymore," said Boon, who talked about the accident while she and her family took in a baseball game Monday at Staley Park. http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=d...69&format=html There is no argument that being stuck in a car in traffic while trying to get to work or get the hell away from it and get home puts all those people in a bad mood 10 times a week. Silicon Valley is now so bad, including corrupt cops in one city district, that I won't drive down there in a car, and would never attempt to ride a bike there. Some things just get worse, like the S.F. Bay area. Bill Baka |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
Stephen! wrote:
BrianNZ wrote in : My my, that time of the month is it? Your argument of keeping a pistol in a fanny pack has already been won by the man who said 'use a holster'.....the guy that was trying to give you a heads up on how to defend yourself better, who you decided was flaming you. Heh... I give up... The dumb pussy wore me out. Never once adressing the point I was making and taking everything as an insult... Getting all ****ed off about it then acusing me of having anger issues... **** 'er... If s/he thinks carrying a revolver in a fanny pack makes him/her safer, so be it... We all know there's a big difference between going "to the range for targe practice"(sic) and a self-defense proficiency course... It's a bit of a worrying trend for him/her to be packing a pistol while having anger issues, not listening to good advice when it's offered, crying 'sexist' at the word pussy and thinking groping constitutes rape. ( I wonder how old he/she is and how many times he/shes been groped OR attacked) The chances of him/her shooting someone by mistake in a moment of anger or fear (justified in her mind) is higher than him/her being able to shoot an attacker. Lets face it, it youv'e just been shoved off your bike your body is going to be in shock for a few seconds which would be plenty of time for an attacker to do his/her worst to disable him/her. |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
"Brent P" wrote in message ... SNIP The thought process being it was to get her drunk and have his way with her. A female chauvinistic veiwpoint imo. I've had women buy me drinks with the purpose of getting me drunk enough yet not to drunk to use me for their whims...not that I'm complaining mind you. It's just that they didn't have to spend their money to achieve their goals, just ask. Bluntly if necessary...that to has happened and slut that I am, well naturally I said "yes, your place or mine?" -- Keith Schiffner History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it. Robert Heinlein |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
On May 3, 2:41 pm, Turby wrote:
On 3 May 2007 10:08:43 -0700, wrote: On May 3, 12:49 pm, Turby wrote: The first cite says, "1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assulted in her lifetime." Really, that's not much of a citation. I see no source for the number, and no clue as to how it was determined. It's impossible to tell if it has any validity. Once again, somebody wants to quibble about numbers, rather than address the issue. Numbers are important. They tell us how much of an issue there is, and how seriously it needs to be addressed. I've seen too many distorted, misleading or flat-out false numbers used to raise support for people's pet issues. Some numbers I used to believe turned out to be completely off-base. Nowadays, I'm not as gullible. If someone prints an unbelievable number about a hot-button issue without a proper citation, I assume that it's fiction until proven otherwise. And that's where your "one in three" claim now sits with me. Do you deny that the number of reported rapes is ridiculously excessive? Without citing numbers, virtually all authorities agree that the actual incidence of rape is far higher than what is reported. If only one in 3 million women were ever raped, and if only 75% of them reported it, one could say the number was ridiculously excessive, and the incidence was far higher than reported. But it would be a far different matter than the one-in-three you claimed. I certainly don't condone rape. But numbers are important. We can't fix all the world's problems at once. We need to prioritize, and accurate numbers lead to realistic priorities. - Frank Krygowski |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
"Stephen!" wrote in message ... evelyn wrote in news:1178196585.232753.237380 @o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: Lets refresh your memory...you called me a loser for no reason. Nope. I called you a loser (and still do) because you insist that carrying a revolver in a fanny pack will help you in a self-defense situation. I wonder why the police don't all wear their firearms in fanny packs... Some do. And not all fanny packs are equal. |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
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Stephen Cowell wrote: I want to grow up and be big, strong gun nuts like you guys! Very few guns even have nuts. Probably some Gatling-type guns do, and I'm sure they are big and strong. But they don't post on Usenet. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
"Stephen Cowell" wrote in message t... I want to grow up and be big, strong gun nuts like you guys! I like the way you handle that Evelyn pussy.... imagine, carrying a gun, yet admitting there are gun problems in our society! That's the good thing about being a gun nut... plenty of small penis friends out there. __ Steve Why are sweet of things like you always concerned about the size of a man's penis? |
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