Could Key West be a bike model for America?

S'mee wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:09 pm, KingOfTheApes
wrote:

I own the road wether it's on a bicycle or a motorcycle,

In other words you never leave your driveway.


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On Oct 30, 5:39 pm, Ben Kaufman spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:42:43 -0700 (PDT), KingOfTheApes

wrote:
On Oct 30, 3:57 pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:
OK, what's the deal with this King of the Apes guy? All the posts I've seen
from him appear to be legitimate, some even raising very good points. This
Key West thing is a good example, yet the one and only reply I've seen so
far is "F-ck off." This seems to be a common response to many of Ape's
posts. Is there something about this guy I don't know?

I think it has to do with the sheep NOT wanting to hear the truth. Of
course, I'm the black sheep.

Funny, Key West is also a paradise for motorcyclists, like that
brutish one that said, "F-ck off."

You can probably also rationalize the hundreds of other messages you've spewed
to rec.motorcycles over the years including such pseudonyms as Don Quixote, and
the king of the jungle crap. I ride a bicycle too and also participate on some
of the bicycle newsgroups but I don't cross post it to my motorcycle groups.

Ben

Just because all, bicycles, scooters, EVs and motorcycles, find a
happy place in Key West. SMALL IS BETTER, comprende?

On Oct 30, 5:53 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" wrote:
On Oct 30, 3:39 pm, Ben Kaufman spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-





wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:42:43 -0700 (PDT), KingOfTheApes

wrote:
On Oct 30, 3:57 pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:
OK, what's the deal with this King of the Apes guy? All the posts I've seen
from him appear to be legitimate, some even raising very good points. This
Key West thing is a good example, yet the one and only reply I've seen so
far is "F-ck off." This seems to be a common response to many of Ape's
posts. Is there something about this guy I don't know?

I think it has to do with the sheep NOT wanting to hear the truth. Of
course, I'm the black sheep.

Funny, Key West is also a paradise for motorcyclists, like that
brutish one that said, "F-ck off."

You can probably also rationalize the hundreds of other messages you've spewed
to rec.motorcycles over the years including such pseudonyms as Don Quixote, and
the king of the jungle crap. I ride a bicycle too and also participate on some
of the bicycle newsgroups but I don't cross post it to my motorcycle groups.

In addition to cross-posting, "King of Apes" probably cross-dresses
while playing with his 'banana' too, as he's a pathetic motorcycle
groupie.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, and you in your black leather probably play S&M games....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonskinner/2307807682/

On Oct 30, 7:10*pm, "S'mee" wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:09*pm, KingOfTheApes
wrote:

I own the road wether it's on a bicycle or a motorcycle, so the
whining and ****ing and moaning of wimpy shrimps like you means next
to nothing. No do toddle off and ignore the next railroad warning you
see.
--
Keith

Yeah sure, you are toughest than steel. But your head is more prone to
damage than an SUV bumpers. Is that why they call you airhead?

On Oct 30, 9:15*pm, Ron Wallenfang wrote:
On Oct 30, 6:12*pm, "S'mee" wrote:

On Oct 30, 1:57*pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:

OK, what's the deal with this King of the Apes guy? *All the posts I've seen
from him appear to be legitimate, some even raising very good points. *This
Key West thing is a good example, yet the one and only reply I've seen so
far is "F-ck off." *This seems to be a common response to many of Ape's
posts. *Is there something about this guy I don't know?

He's a ****ing troll. Just another unthinking sheep that thinks the
world should be the way he wants it to be. Silly lamb doesn't realize
that the key is to take what you want and give nothing back. I take
the middle of the road for my half... ;^)

--
Keith

FWIW, Key West is an OK place to bicycle but nothing special. Same
with the rest of the keys.

Well, it's special in the sense that you can go by bike anywhere. Tell
me if that's not special in America.

Notice there's not many of the elite lycra type, which means Key West
is a good place for single speeds.

Key Biscayne near Miami is such a place for elite riders, but Miami
remains a jungle. Of course, I prefer Key West.

On Oct 30, 7:12*pm, "S'mee" wrote:
On Oct 30, 1:57*pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:

OK, what's the deal with this King of the Apes guy? *All the posts I've seen
from him appear to be legitimate, some even raising very good points. *This
Key West thing is a good example, yet the one and only reply I've seen so
far is "F-ck off." *This seems to be a common response to many of Ape's
posts. *Is there something about this guy I don't know?

He's a ****ing troll. Just another unthinking sheep that thinks the
world should be the way he wants it to be. Silly lamb doesn't realize
that the key is to take what you want and give nothing back. I take
the middle of the road for my half... ;^)

--
Keith

Like I said, I'm a sheep, but of the black type (and proud of
it)...

HOW THE BLACK SHEEP WERE EXPELLED

One day the Lion, who had been thinking how to best eat the sheep,
decided to dress as one of them... This way the common sheep trusted
the new sheep more and more every day, some confessing to him, others
voting for him, and most allowing to be fleeced by him...

Meanwhile, the Black Sheep --who was able to see through camouflage--
thought this way: "If he lies, and takes the lion's share, lion he
is..."

And that's the reason why from then on the Black Sheep weren't allowed
to mingle anymore with the simple and common sheep...

On Oct 30, 4:40*pm, "Road Glidin' Don" wrote:
On Oct 30, 1:57*pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:

OK, what's the deal with this King of the Apes guy? *All the posts I've seen
from him appear to be legitimate, some even raising very good points. *This
Key West thing is a good example, yet the one and only reply I've seen so
far is "F-ck off." *This seems to be a common response to many of Ape's
posts. *Is there something about this guy I don't know?

He's a cross-posting, attention-seeking, ****ing idiot and continually
posts his nonsensical crap to motorcycle newsgroups.

Listen, I'm sick and tired of fighting the hyenas here, but it's good
to send you copies of posts I place in other groups. It's like, "I
don't want you ignore what's going on in the jungle." Because some day
you may become its victim.

Anyway, now for some spicy humor, Key West style...

(Have you noticed those funny T-shirts in Key West' displays)

Originally Posted by -=£em in Pa=-

"I watch a lot of Telemundo so I think the Cuban model is the best in
the world....

(beautiful ladies here)

I believe attitude is more important than models. Vermont, where I
lived previous
to DQ's JuNgLe, the population was very accepting of bicycles. The
roads where
bumpy, one lane farm roads and people were patient until they could
pass. In the few
years I lived there, I only got harrased twice in Rutland, the second
largest 'city'.
Conversely, in FL, with lanes and widewalks where I live, Im still
very apprehensive
because of the hostle nature of the populace in general, not just
motorists.
I dont know if its possible to change peoples attitudes."

***

Ironically both the Cuban model and the beasts on the road can be
conquered by the best weapon ever devised... the banana!

No, it's not what you think but using a combination of "sharing" (yes,
the monkey shares the banana and expects something in return) and
"drawing attention to" the monkey stands out so others share with him
what he needs. Have you thought nobody ever noticed the monkey? The
Cuban model probably will go with a lion if you don't stand out.

So those T-shirts that say, "Hungry? You can eat my banana!" start to
make a lot of sense.

PS: Those that interpret it as a finger, can only miss on the loving
part of it.


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WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION?
(home of the Dutch model!)

http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution

On Oct 31, 8:30*am, KingOfTheApes wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:10*pm, "S'mee" wrote:

On Oct 30, 12:09*pm, KingOfTheApes
wrote:

I own the road wether it's on a bicycle or a motorcycle, so the
whining and ****ing and moaning of wimpy shrimps like you means next
to nothing. No do toddle off and ignore the next railroad warning you
see.
--
Keith

Yeah sure, you are toughest than steel. But your head is more prone to
damage than an SUV bumpers. Is that why they call you airhead?

AH but you would be wrong...I wear a REAL helmet not the unsafe ****
foisted off on bicyclists. 8^) I compensate for a head made of
camembertsic? by having testicular tissues of diamond. Ti is for the
"little peopl" who don't own the road.
--
Keith

On Oct 31, 11:04*am, "S'mee" wrote:
On Oct 31, 8:30*am, KingOfTheApes wrote:

On Oct 30, 7:10*pm, "S'mee" wrote:

On Oct 30, 12:09*pm, KingOfTheApes
wrote:

I own the road wether it's on a bicycle or a motorcycle, so the
whining and ****ing and moaning of wimpy shrimps like you means next
to nothing. No do toddle off and ignore the next railroad warning you
see.
--
Keith

Yeah sure, you are toughest than steel. But your head is more prone to
damage than an SUV bumpers. Is that why they call you airhead?

AH but you would be wrong...I wear a REAL helmet not the unsafe ****
foisted off on bicyclists. 8^) I compensate for a head made of
camembertsic? by having testicular tissues of diamond. Ti is for the
"little peopl" who don't own the road.
--
Keith

Don't say that before the large number of motorcyclists who do NOT
wear a helmet.

By the way, diamond doesn't crack under a hammer? I guess it chips, no?

OK, now for the serious stuff...

(I answer below)

Originally Posted by cudak888

As for cycling in the Key itself, I have my reservations as to the
area in itself. The general population has proven themselves to be
anti-cyclist in the past (complaints to PD), and the type of driver
that you will find down there are about on par with that of the
general Coral Gables crowd - mostly 20-30 year-old twits in their
Beemers and Benz coupes.

Where in the Key have you ridden?

-Kurt

***

I've ridden White St, Fleming St, which both have a bike lane, as well
as other back streets, then around the whole island on the perimeter
bike route/sidewalk.

Their whole attitude* is friendly and you are not considered an
"outcast" for riding a bike. You may be a local or a tourist from
Europe, and that sounds intimidating to the bullies out there. Too
many SUVs from Miami and other areas, but they seem somewhat tamed
down there. I think everybody down there drops their defenses and
enjoys the parties, the people, etc.

And I think IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE FORMS OF TRANPORTATION THEY'VE
GOT.

* I think it was word chosen by my "comrade-in-arms" in another
thread.