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Could Key West be a bike model for America?
On Nov 2, 9:05*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message ... On Oct 31, 7:50 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: "KingOfTheApes" wrote in message .... [...] I don't fear that more than the theory that Iraq had WMDs when they didn't. And that was a REAL conspiracy theory. You god damn ****ing stupid asshole ... the whole world thought he had weapons of mass destruction including all of your liberal asshole buddies in Congress. Even Powell the Black Sheep thought so! Remember the secret contacts of Hussein and Al Qaida in Nigeria and Checkoslavakia [Czechoslovakia] and other BS? Hussein was bent on acquiring nuclear weapons. Further, he wanted the whole world to think that he had them. Therefore Bush was more than justified to take him and his regime out. Only liberal assholes like you think otherwise. Now go **** yourself and stop posting nonsense to these honorable newsgroups, you god damn moron! By the way, there no longer is any Czechoslovakia. It is now the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Try to get your head screwed on straight why don't you, you god damn moron! Oh c'mon, North Korea has WMDs for real and what are you doing to take them out? It is not so easy to take out a nation that already has acquired nuclear weapons. That is the reason for taking out rogue nations like Iran who are bent on acquiring such weapons. Just apeace the beast, right? But North Korea doesn't have oil either. We do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons - period. It is their oil wealth which allows them to purchase such weapons. The big lion thinks, "The little lion has real paws and teeth and nothing to eat... so I better welcome him among my accomplices." And so North Korea does whatever it wants. And what about Lybia? China will keep North Korea in line and Libya has already given in after the dictator there saw what we did to Iraq. Sorry to tell you are a big clown without nothing say. The only clown here is this comandantebanana jerk. He should get a life instead of bothering the honorable members of these noble newsgroups with his animal jungle nonsense. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Honorable my ass. You just called them names and now you've got no friends. Not them, not comandante banana. Now you are relegated to the role of a sheep repeating the official story that we would pacify the Middle East by pacifying Iraq. Iran is getting WMDs because they saw what happened to Iraq. And Pakistan (who exported nuclear techonology) is a powder keg. If you had a clue about the jungle, you'd know that an arms race drove ever more dangerous beasts. |
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Could Key West be a bike model for America?
"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message ... [...] Not even Bush is so honest as to call torture, torture. Comandantebanana would prefer that any number of Americans die than that a Muslim terrorist be subjected to a bit of good old fashion torture. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message ... [...] Why are you a sheep? Because you believed the story of the WMDs. Apparently only a supreme jerk like you did not believe that he had them. Why aren't you running for president? You would be at least as good as B. Hussein O. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message ... [...] OK, at least you are honest. Well, I'm not a `complete troll like you are. I try to make a point at least, and find a solution to the jungle. You don't believe in the jungle? And who would you be in the animal world? You know why your jungle analogy doesn't work? It is because no one has any contact with any kind of animals anymore other than the human kind. Hells Bells, they don't even make movies anymore about dogs and horses like they used to when I was a kid. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"KingOfTheApes" wrote in message ... On Nov 2, 9:05 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] The only clown here is this comandantebanana jerk. He should get a life instead of bothering the honorable members of these noble newsgroups with his animal jungle nonsense. Honorable my ass. You just called them names and now you've got no friends. Not them, not comandante banana. I don't give a damn about newsgroups or anyone on them. We are all bunch of idiots for doing what we are doing, you more so than most. Now you are relegated to the role of a sheep repeating the official story that we would pacify the Middle East by pacifying Iraq. Iran is getting WMDs because they saw what happened to Iraq. And Pakistan (who exported nuclear techonology) is a powder keg. If you had a clue about the jungle, you'd know that an arms race drove ever more dangerous beasts. I see Pakistan as being possibly the greatest danger this nation has ever faced if the Taliban takes over there. We have never been confronted before by a group that not only does not fear death, but courts it via suicide bombing. In an age of nuclear weapons, preemptive strikes are the only thing that makes any sense. The days of sitting back and waiting for a Pearl Harbor belong to the past. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Road Glidin' Don wrote:
If you disagree with Henry about the twin towers being blown up by Bush to give an excuse for attacking Iraq, then you also "fear the message." Enjoy the taste of each other's medicine, boys. I don't believe that Bush blew up the towers. He's far too incompetent. These Mossad agents might know something about it, though. They were observed filming and celebrating the demolitions. They said they were there to document the event. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...eisraelis.html http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bol...-Israelis.html Also, we have evidence that Cheney gave a stand down order as flight 77 approached the Pentagon. It's quite a stretch to believe that a known hijacked 757 would be permitted to fly into the most heavily guarded air space on the planet an hour *after* the first tower was hit. http://www.journalof911studies.com/l...tagonOn911.pdf The meek, slight man who allegedly forced a burly Vietnam era Fighter pilot to hand over his plane and then proceeded to perform high speed aerobatics over the Pentagon couldn't even fly a Cessna. http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/...badpilots.html But of course, these are facts and evidence that bearded cave man cartoon conspiracy theorists are incapable of discussing, because they show that 9-11 was an inside job. There's something "special" about a conspiracy theorist who isn't able to explain or discuss his own conspiracy.... ;-) -- http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.911truth.org Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging infernos for hours on end. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...are/fires.html http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled demolition. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq? http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm http://www.commondreams.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
Equating 9-11-01 and the Bush regime's tax payer theft, war crimes, mass murder, and terrorism with cross posting seems a little extreme... The only thing that is a "little extreme" is your ****ed-up brain. Thick headed government propaganda parroting extremists seem have great difficulty addressing facts, evidence, expert research, or thinking. The 9-11 truth movement has thousands of experts and hard evidence on their side. Cave man cartoon conspiracy kooks have Bush, Cheney, kook rants, and childish lies on theirs.... http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...ticl eId=1856 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles..._knowledge.htm Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job Man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga's assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals - he can't be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...6insidejob.htm A 28-year CIA career man and a former skeptic of alternative 9/11 explanations has gone further than ever before in voicing his convictions that the attacks bore the hallmarks of an inside job and the three buildings in the WTC complex were brought down by controlled demolition. Bill Christison is a former senior official of the CIA. He was a National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979. Since then he has written numerous articles on U.S. foreign policies. In Christison's recent article, Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11, he afforded credibility to the notion that "significant parts" of the official 9/11 story were false and after careful research he concluded that the twin towers and building 7, "were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings." http://georgewashington.blogspot.com...-credible.html MILITARY LEADERS Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (bio) Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that 9/11 was an inside job. He also said: "If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot?I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they?ve changed them to?if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!" U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal (Capt. Daniel Davis) stated: "there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a 'conspiracy Theory' does not change the truth. It seems, 'Something is rotten in the State.' " President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11 U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time." Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official (Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski) finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious. She also said: (at page 26): "I have been told by reporters that they will not report their own insights or contrary evaluations of the official 9/11 story, because to question the government story about 9/11 is to question the very foundations of our entire modern belief system regarding our government, our country, and our way of life. [However], questioning the official story is also simply and fundamentally American." Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute (Lt. Colonel Steve Butler) said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism." Two-Star general (Major General Albert Stubbelbine) questions the attack on the Pentagon U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO?s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following: "I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government .... Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it. We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said: "This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ... Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away. If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? .... Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..." U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot (Commander Ralph Kolstad) who questions the official account of 9/11 and is calling for a new investigation, says "When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official story". The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility Additionally, numerous military leaders from allied governments have questioned 9/11, such as: Canadian Minister of Defense, the top military leader of Canada (Paul Hellyer) Assistant German Defense Minister (Andreas Von Bulow) Commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy (Anatoli Kornukov) Chief of staff of the Russian armed forces (General Leonid Ivashov) INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg recently said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath. A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said ?I think at simplest terms, there?s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke?, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job. A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis (William Bill Christison) said ?I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11." (and see this). 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006). A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East?, and whose astounding career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture Syriana (Robert Baer) said that"the evidence points at" 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job . The Division Chief of the CIA?s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004 (Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup." Professor of History and International Relations, University of Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency. Former military attaché in China. 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army) questions the government's version of the events of 9/11. The head of all U.S. intelligence, the Director of National Intelligence (Mike McConnel) said "9/11 should have and could have been prevented" 9/11 COMMISSIONERS The 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required). Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations. 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history. 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ." 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting" Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up". The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true." SCIENTISTS A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC (Dr. David L. Griscom) said that the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition A world-renowned scientist, recipient of the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement (Dr. Lynn Margulis) said: "I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken." The former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire (the National Institute of Standards and Technology), who is a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering, with more than 25 years experience in fire research and its applications, and is a professor in the Department of Fire Protection Engineering at the University of Maryland (Dr. James Quintiere), called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable." Former Director for Research, Director for Aeronautical Projects, and Flight Research Program Manager for NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center, who holds masters degrees in both physics and engineering (Dwain A. Deets) says: "The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Centers on 9/11].'' A prominent physicist, former U.S. professor of physics from a top university, and a former principal investigator for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects (Dr. Steven E. Jones) stated that the world trade centers were brought down by controlled demolition A U.S. physics professor who teaches at several universities (Dr. Crockett Grabbe) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition An expert on demolition (Bent Lund) said that the trade centers were brought down with explosives (in Danish) A Dutch demolition expert (Danny Jowenko) stated that WTC 7 was imploded A safety engineer and accident analyst for the Finnish National Safety Technology Authority (Dr. Heikki Kurttila) stated regarding WTC 7 that "The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance factor strongly suggest controlled demolition." A 13-year professor of metallurgical engineering at a U.S. university, with a PhD in materials engineering, a former Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member (Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn), is calling for a new investigation of 9/11 A Danish professor of chemistry (Dr. Niels Harrit) said, in a mainstream Danish newspaper, "WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building would have fallen in that direction. You don't have to be a woodcutter to grasp this" (translated) A former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles and professor emeritus, mathematics and computer science at a university concluded (Dr. Bruce R. Henry) that the Twin Towers "were brought down by planted explosives." A professor of mathematics (Gary Welz) said "The official explanation that I've heard doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain why I heard and felt an explosion before the South Tower fell and why the concrete was pulverized" STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council (Marx Ayres) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition (see also this) Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition (translation here) Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas (and see this) Dennis Kollar, structural engineer, of West Bend, Wisconsin Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired) Haluk Akol, Structural Engineer and architect (ret.) William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont Technical College An architect, member of the American Institute of Architects, who has been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible for the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use (Richard Gage) disputes the claim that fire and airplane damage brought down the World Trade Centers and believes there is strong evidence of controlled demolition (many other architects who question 9/11 are listed here) LEGAL SCHOLARS Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus) questions the government's version of 9/11. Former Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation; former Professor of Aviation, Dept. of Aerospace Engineering and Aviation and Professor of Public Policy, Ohio State University (Mary Schiavo) questions the government's version of 9/11. Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign; a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention; served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court, with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University (Dr. Francis Boyle) questions the government's version of 9/11. Former prosecutor in the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the U.S. Justice Department and a key member of Attorney General Bobby Kennedy?s anti-corruption task force; former assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois (J. Terrence "Terry" Brunner) questions the government's version of 9/11. Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 served on the three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission on Kosovo (Richard Falk) questions the government's version of 9/11. Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law (Burns H. Weston) questions the government's version of 9/11. Former president of the National Lawyers Guild (C. Peter Erlinder), who signed a petition calling for a real investigation into 9/11. And see petition. Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs career (Mark Conrad) questions the government's version of 9/11. Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice of West Germany (Horst Ehmke) questions the government's version of 9/11. Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy; former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books on law and political theory (Dr. William G. Weaver) questions the government's version of 9/11. Famed trial attorney (Gerry Spence) questions the government's version of 9/11. Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career (William Veale) said: "When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer's training comes the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government." MEMBERS OF CONGRESS Current U.S. Senator (Patrick Leahy) states "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?" Current Republican Congressman (Ron Paul) states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on" Current Democratic Congressman (Dennis Kucinich) hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11 Former Democratic Senator (Mike Gravel) states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11 Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee (Curt Weldon) has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job FAMILY MEMBERS AND HEROIC FIRST RESPONDERS A common criticism of those who question 9/11 is that they are being "disrespectful to the victims and their families". However, half of the victim's families believe that 9/11 was an inside job (according to the head of the largest 9/11 family group, Bill Doyle) (and listen to this interview). Many family and friends of victims not only support the search for 9/11 truth, but they demand it (please ignore the partisan tone). See also this interview. Indeed, it has now become so clear that the 9/11 Commission was a whitewash that the same 9/11 widows who called for the creation of the 9/11 Commission are now demanding a NEW investigation (see also this video). And dying heroes, soon-to-be victims themselves, the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11, say that controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers and that a real investigation is necessary. PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS Finally, those who attack people who question the government's version of 9/11 as "crazy" may wish to review the list of mental health professionals who have concluded that the official version of 9/11 is false: Psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman, MD Psychiatrist E. Martin Schotz Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R. Komisaruk Professor of Psychology at University of New Hampshire William Woodward Professor of Psychology at University of Essex Philip Cozzolino Professor of Psychology at Goddard College Catherine Lowther Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California Institute of Integral Studies Ralph Metzner Professor of Psychology at Rhodes University Mike Earl-Taylor Retired Professor of Psychology at Oxford University Graham Harris Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska and licensed Psychologist Ronald Feintech Ph.D. Clinical Neuropsychologist Richard Welser THOUSANDS OF OTHERS The roster above is only a sample. There are too many Ph.D. scientists and engineers, architects, military and intelligence officials, politicians, legal scholars and other highly-credible people who question 9/11 -- literally thousands -- to list in one place. Here are a few additional people to consider: The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission Former air traffic controller, who knows the flight corridor which the two planes which hit the Twin Towers flew "like the back of my hand" and who handled two actual hijackings (Robin Hordon) says that 9/11 could not have occurred as the government says, and that planes can be tracked on radar even when their transponders are turned off (also, listen to this interview) Perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department's Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been caused by anything else (pages 5-6). Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who's who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11 Former FBI agent (Robert Wright) says "The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred." Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice's Inspector General and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription required) (Sibel Edmonds), said "If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job. http://georgewashington.blogspot.com...-collapse.html Structural Engineers Question Collapse of the World Trade Center One of the arguments that government apologists have used in trying to prop up the official story of why the World Trade Centers came down on 9/11 is that no structural engineers have questioned the government's version of events. However, that is now changing. The following structural engineers have now publicly challenged the government's account of the destruction of the Trade Centers on 9/11: Hugo Bachmann and Jörg Schneider, both emeritus professors in structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (translation here) Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired) Joseph M. Phelps, MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member, Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont Technical College When considered along with the other prominent scientists who question 9/11, it becomes impossible for any thinking person to accept at face value the government's version of the destruction of the World Trade Center. More experts who who have used science and hard evidence to prove demolition: http://journalof911studies.com/ Still more engineers and experts who explain why the Bush regime's magic fire theory is physically impossible. http://ae911truth.org/ Another one: http://www.vermontguardian.com/comme...inTowers.shtml And quite a few mo http://911proof.com/10.html More yet: http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/0...-of-wtc-7.html And a couple hundred mo http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html -- http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.911truth.org Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging infernos for hours on end. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...are/fires.html http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled demolition. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq? http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm http://www.commondreams.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... |
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If you disagree with Henry about the twin towers being blown up by Bush to give an excuse for attacking Iraq, then you also "fear the message." Enjoy the taste of each other's medicine, boys. I don't believe that Bush blew up the towers. He's far too incompetent. These Mossad agents might know something about it, though. They were observed filming and celebrating the demolitions. They said they were there to document the event. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...eisraelis.html http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bol...-Israelis.html Also, we have evidence that Cheney gave a stand down order as flight 77 approached the Pentagon. It's quite a stretch to believe that a known hijacked 757 would be permitted to fly into the most heavily guarded air space on the planet an hour *after* the first tower was hit. http://www.journalof911studies.com/l...tagonOn911.pdf The meek, slight man who allegedly forced a burly Vietnam era Fighter pilot to hand over his plane and then proceeded to perform high speed aerobatics over the Pentagon couldn't even fly a Cessna. http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/...badpilots.html But of course, these are facts and evidence that bearded cave man cartoon conspiracy theorists are incapable of discussing, because they show that 9-11 was an inside job. There's something "special" about a conspiracy theorist who isn't able to explain or discuss his own conspiracy.... ;-) -- http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.911truth.org Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging infernos for hours on end. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...are/fires.html http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled demolition. http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq? http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21 "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm http://www.commondreams.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... |
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"KingOfTheApes" wrote Why are you a sheep? Because you believed the story of the WMDs. Apparently only a supreme jerk like you did not believe that he had them. "Had" as in yesterday or "had" as in 20 years ago? There is no doubt Saddam once had WMDs - he used them on Iranians and Kurds. But he was required to get rid of them all after the first Gulf War and there is no evidence he failed to comply. None have turned up despite careful searching. |
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"Henry" wrote
I don't believe that Bush blew up the towers. He's far too incompetent. These Mossad agents might know something about it, though. That's illogical. I have no doubt Israel was happy to see Saddam go and perhaps even had an input to the Bush/Chaney decision to invade Iraq (Remember Wolfowitz?) but that decision was made before the attack on the towers. Muslim extremists, hostile to Saddam, perp'd the attack for their own reasons that had nothing to do with Iraq. If anything, they delayed Bush's invasion plans. |
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