Laugh or Cry 2020 is coming

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:08:05 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:51:19 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

John B. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:06:24 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote:

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:53:06 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:43:57 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra noted, It's tough to make
predictions, especially about the future."

https://bikerumor.com/2019/12/23/202...erything-else-
will-
change-too/

I find the prediction regarding e-bikes interesting.

Whizzer Company built gasoline motor add-ons for bicycles and later
complete motorized bicycles as far back as 1939, which never became
wildly popular. While today it seems that e-bikes are now on the
way to becoming almost a standard. I read, for example, that home
delivery - Pizza for example - in Singapore is almost all by
e-bike.

Why not Whizzer and why e-bike?

As a guess, the weight and size of the motors. Then there is the
issue of faul, unhealthy air. Whilst a hot radiating ICe is good in
winter, it is lousy in summar here.

Tack-on two stroke gas motors are noisy. Its like riding a buzz bomb.
I got passed by some dope on a bike with a gas motor, and I thought I
was going to get chainsaw massacred.

-- Jay Beattie.

The Whizzer used a regular 4 stroke Briggs & Stratten motor if memory
serves. And; I can assure you that it was much quieter than my bored
and stroked 90 cu.in. Harley :-)
--
cheers,

John B.


Talk about damning with faint praise.

:-) Well he was complaining about noise :-)

I have a hatred of B&S from an early age as my father had a lawn mower
with a B&S motor, which was fine until it conked out. It was incredibly
difficult, almst a complete strip and rebuild, to get it started again if
it was hot.

Intertestingly, we (SWMBO'd choice
) now have a lawn mower with a B&S motor which is the exact opposite as I
need to put it out in the sun to warm up before it will start. Those were/
are both 2 stroke. Interestingly, I'm the only one who can tickle the B&S
4 stroke plant mulcher, used by a community group, into starting.

While I waer hering protection with the lawn mower and mulcxher, I
definitely do no want the same hearing loss whilst riding a bicycle.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:03:02 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:53:04 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:43:57 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra noted, It's tough to make
predictions, especially about the future."

https://bikerumor.com/2019/12/23/202...erything-else-
will-
change-too/

I find the prediction regarding e-bikes interesting.

Whizzer Company built gasoline motor add-ons for bicycles and later
complete motorized bicycles as far back as 1939, which never became
wildly popular. While today it seems that e-bikes are now on the way
to becoming almost a standard. I read, for example, that home delivery
- Pizza for example - in Singapore is almost all by e-bike.

Why not Whizzer and why e-bike?

As a guess, the weight and size of the motors. Then there is the issue
of faul, unhealthy air. Whilst a hot radiating ICe is good in winter, it
is lousy in summar here.

Back in the 1940's when I saw the first Whizzer we didn't have "foul
unhealthy air". It hadn't been invented yet :-)

Given that the massive uptake in smoking was tasking pace at the same
time, I'm sure they had more pressing concerns on their mind.

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 9:02:58 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:06:24 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote:

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:53:06 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:43:57 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra noted, It's tough to make
predictions, especially about the future."

https://bikerumor.com/2019/12/23/202...ing-else-will-
change-too/

I find the prediction regarding e-bikes interesting.

Whizzer Company built gasoline motor add-ons for bicycles and later
complete motorized bicycles as far back as 1939, which never became
wildly popular. While today it seems that e-bikes are now on the way to
becoming almost a standard. I read, for example, that home delivery -
Pizza for example - in Singapore is almost all by e-bike.

Why not Whizzer and why e-bike?

As a guess, the weight and size of the motors. Then there is the issue of
faul, unhealthy air. Whilst a hot radiating ICe is good in winter, it is
lousy in summar here.

Tack-on two stroke gas motors are noisy. Its like riding a buzz bomb. I got passed by some dope on a bike with a gas motor, and I thought I was going to get chainsaw massacred.

-- Jay Beattie.

The Whizzer used a regular 4 stroke Briggs & Stratten motor if memory
serves. And; I can assure you that it was much quieter than my bored
and stroked 90 cu.in. Harley :-)
--

AFAIK, I've never seen a genuine Whizzer, but the add-on gas motors I've seen on current bikes are all small two strokes. https://tinyurl.com/qkghk29 I see/hear them rarely.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 12/28/2019 12:02 AM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:06:24 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote:

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:53:06 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:43:57 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra noted, It's tough to make
predictions, especially about the future."

https://bikerumor.com/2019/12/23/202...ing-else-will-
change-too/

I find the prediction regarding e-bikes interesting.

Whizzer Company built gasoline motor add-ons for bicycles and later
complete motorized bicycles as far back as 1939, which never became
wildly popular. While today it seems that e-bikes are now on the way to
becoming almost a standard. I read, for example, that home delivery -
Pizza for example - in Singapore is almost all by e-bike.

Why not Whizzer and why e-bike?

As a guess, the weight and size of the motors. Then there is the issue of
faul, unhealthy air. Whilst a hot radiating ICe is good in winter, it is
lousy in summar here.

Tack-on two stroke gas motors are noisy. Its like riding a buzz bomb. I got passed by some dope on a bike with a gas motor, and I thought I was going to get chainsaw massacred.

-- Jay Beattie.

The Whizzer used a regular 4 stroke Briggs & Stratten motor if memory
serves. And; I can assure you that it was much quieter than my bored
and stroked 90 cu.in. Harley :-)

Every Whizzer I've seen has had a two-stroke engine.

There's a museum near me with an annual antique motorcycle show. They
frequently include a Whizzer.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:13:48 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:03:02 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:53:04 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:43:57 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra noted, It's tough to make
predictions, especially about the future."

https://bikerumor.com/2019/12/23/202...erything-else-
will-
change-too/

I find the prediction regarding e-bikes interesting.

Whizzer Company built gasoline motor add-ons for bicycles and later
complete motorized bicycles as far back as 1939, which never became
wildly popular. While today it seems that e-bikes are now on the way
to becoming almost a standard. I read, for example, that home delivery
- Pizza for example - in Singapore is almost all by e-bike.

Why not Whizzer and why e-bike?

As a guess, the weight and size of the motors. Then there is the issue
of faul, unhealthy air. Whilst a hot radiating ICe is good in winter, it
is lousy in summar here.

Back in the 1940's when I saw the first Whizzer we didn't have "foul
unhealthy air". It hadn't been invented yet :-)

Given that the massive uptake in smoking was tasking pace at the same
time, I'm sure they had more pressing concerns on their mind.

I don't know about an "uptake in smoking". Nearly ever adult male I
remember smoked from those days. My granddad smoked and chewed
tobacco, sometimes at the same time :-)
I do remember that the football coach argued that those in training
shouldn't smoke as "it cuts your wind".
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:09:47 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:08:05 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:51:19 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

John B. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:06:24 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote:

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:53:06 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:43:57 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0600, AMuzi
wrote:

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra noted, It's tough to make
predictions, especially about the future."

https://bikerumor.com/2019/12/23/202...erything-else-
will-
change-too/

I find the prediction regarding e-bikes interesting.

Whizzer Company built gasoline motor add-ons for bicycles and later
complete motorized bicycles as far back as 1939, which never became
wildly popular. While today it seems that e-bikes are now on the
way to becoming almost a standard. I read, for example, that home
delivery - Pizza for example - in Singapore is almost all by
e-bike.

Why not Whizzer and why e-bike?

As a guess, the weight and size of the motors. Then there is the
issue of faul, unhealthy air. Whilst a hot radiating ICe is good in
winter, it is lousy in summar here.

Tack-on two stroke gas motors are noisy. Its like riding a buzz bomb.
I got passed by some dope on a bike with a gas motor, and I thought I
was going to get chainsaw massacred.

-- Jay Beattie.

The Whizzer used a regular 4 stroke Briggs & Stratten motor if memory
serves. And; I can assure you that it was much quieter than my bored
and stroked 90 cu.in. Harley :-)
--
cheers,

John B.


Talk about damning with faint praise.

:-) Well he was complaining about noise :-)

I have a hatred of B&S from an early age as my father had a lawn mower
with a B&S motor, which was fine until it conked out. It was incredibly
difficult, almst a complete strip and rebuild, to get it started again if
it was hot.

Intertestingly, we (SWMBO'd choice
) now have a lawn mower with a B&S motor which is the exact opposite as I
need to put it out in the sun to warm up before it will start. Those were/
are both 2 stroke. Interestingly, I'm the only one who can tickle the B&S
4 stroke plant mulcher, used by a community group, into starting.

While I waer hering protection with the lawn mower and mulcxher, I
definitely do no want the same hearing loss whilst riding a bicycle.

Generally speaking, if you have clean fresh gas in the tank and the
motor is still hard to start it is the internal magneto which is at
fault. Any magneto is handicapped by low RPM but the internal ones
using a magnet cast into the flywheel seem particularly prone to weak
spark at starting RPM. The older outboards with the rope wrapped
around the top of the flywheel had the same problems.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 11:30:44 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 12/28/2019 12:02 AM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:06:24 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote:

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:53:06 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:43:57 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra noted, It's tough to make
predictions, especially about the future."

https://bikerumor.com/2019/12/23/202...ing-else-will-
change-too/

I find the prediction regarding e-bikes interesting.

Whizzer Company built gasoline motor add-ons for bicycles and later
complete motorized bicycles as far back as 1939, which never became
wildly popular. While today it seems that e-bikes are now on the way to
becoming almost a standard. I read, for example, that home delivery -
Pizza for example - in Singapore is almost all by e-bike.

Why not Whizzer and why e-bike?

As a guess, the weight and size of the motors. Then there is the issue of
faul, unhealthy air. Whilst a hot radiating ICe is good in winter, it is
lousy in summar here.

Tack-on two stroke gas motors are noisy. Its like riding a buzz bomb. I got passed by some dope on a bike with a gas motor, and I thought I was going to get chainsaw massacred.

-- Jay Beattie.

The Whizzer used a regular 4 stroke Briggs & Stratten motor if memory
serves. And; I can assure you that it was much quieter than my bored
and stroked 90 cu.in. Harley :-)

Every Whizzer I've seen has had a two-stroke engine.

Given that I haven't seen a Whizzer since about 1951, or so, you may
well be correct.

There's a museum near me with an annual antique motorcycle show. They
frequently include a Whizzer.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 17:41:44 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:13:48 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:03:02 +0700, John B. wrote:

Back in the 1940's when I saw the first Whizzer we didn't have "foul
unhealthy air". It hadn't been invented yet :-)

Given that the massive uptake in smoking was tasking pace at the same
time, I'm sure they had more pressing concerns on their mind.

I don't know about an "uptake in smoking". Nearly ever adult male I
remember smoked from those days. My granddad smoked and chewed tobacco,
sometimes at the same time :-)
I do remember that the football coach argued that those in training
shouldn't smoke as "it cuts your wind".

The 1940's was the time of WWII and the joke is that army service lead to
an uptake of smoking. As one pommie tank driver explained it to me, "in
training, you be marched somewhere and the seargent said those who want a
smoke fall out and the rest would be taken off to what ever task.So
everyone took up smoking to get out of being volunteered".

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 03:47:52 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 17:41:44 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:13:48 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:03:02 +0700, John B. wrote:

Back in the 1940's when I saw the first Whizzer we didn't have "foul
unhealthy air". It hadn't been invented yet :-)

Given that the massive uptake in smoking was tasking pace at the same
time, I'm sure they had more pressing concerns on their mind.

I don't know about an "uptake in smoking". Nearly ever adult male I
remember smoked from those days. My granddad smoked and chewed tobacco,
sometimes at the same time :-)
I do remember that the football coach argued that those in training
shouldn't smoke as "it cuts your wind".

The 1940's was the time of WWII and the joke is that army service lead to
an uptake of smoking. As one pommie tank driver explained it to me, "in
training, you be marched somewhere and the seargent said those who want a
smoke fall out and the rest would be taken off to what ever task.So
everyone took up smoking to get out of being volunteered".

It might well be so, but during my years in the Military (about 10
years later) the Sergeant said, "Fall Out; those with cigarettes can
smoke" :-)
--
cheers,

John B.